Episode 18.5: Ronin
🕑 Added 2021-10-19 22:15:02 +0000 UTCIt's got three former Bond villains in it, it's themed around the fall of the USSR, and above all it's Alice's favourite movie, so we simply couldn't resist the opportunity to discuss Ronin, the star-studded Robert De Niro vehicle about hired killers stealing a briefcase.
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Comments
Ineloquent Reverie
Okay I think I have a headcanon for what’s in the case: compromising photographs of major British government officials making arms deals with extremist Ulster Protestant terrorist groups in Northern Ireland
Alex Roselle
Commenting to point out that the random ice skater whom Gregor’s Russian Mafia contact is with was played by none other than Katarina Witt, the Olympics skating champion, actual East German, and (for some) late Cold War sex symbol.
Harrison Hapner
As Fallout: New Vegas is one my favorite games, I very much appreciate the reference. Thank you Devon.
cybercrime
Thanks to the podcast i watched this movie. I fully believe that the voiceover in the end was added because this movie released in the same year as the good friday referendum, and they were too far into making it when that happened. After all none of the characters reference it so it could well have been added in the edit
Slazenger Kincaid
Late here because I'm catching up having just recently become a patron: your Sean Bean podcast should be SAVE SEAN BEAN
Henry Read
People from Britain talking about "Europeans, eh?" will never not send me
Kill James Bond Highlights
"You take several couriers" Alright reset the timer.
Paul Kohler
Do you think the dogs that greet them at Aged Hugo Drax's house were the same ones that ate the woman from the bond movie?
Noblesse Oblahaj
Could you recommend more books and movies, fiction and non-fiction, with good spycraft?
Cate Kneale
I'm looking forward to Alice's drop of Madonna saying cockfights from Die Another Day.
Tom Moffat
I hope at some point we get Ocean’s 12 as a bonus, I would very much like to hear my best friends, the hosts of this podcast, discussing that one
OvO Hoot
The small coffee cups are set up by De Niro's first line in the movie: "Juste un petit verre."
Katie
This podcast is ok but I’m really looking forward to ‘Full o’ Beans’
Christine Pizan
unrelated but this is the first movie you've covered you sold me on watching
Christine Pizan
all this talk of the procedural intricacies this film endeavours to show reminds me of one my favourite anti-bond procedural thrillers that might be good for you to watch, with a similar name scheme to this one le samourai (1967)
Alfred Lang
1:17:31 ooo you should try van hellsing abridged :)
Alfred Lang
53:43 sounds like a new patron goal to me lol
I've got to suggest 'Escape to Athena' for this, it's a 1979 half WW2 adventure-comedy and half bond film - and it stars Roger Moore (though he's not the protagonist)
Ignatius
Ignatiy Vishnevetsky's review does a better job than i ever could explaining what makes it so special, but even if you end up hating the film its worth watching a decent chunk of it just for the performances https://www.avclub.com/unique-and-monumental-out-1-is-the-most-paranoid-movie-1798185517
Ignatius
okay, this is going to seem like an insane recommendation but if you love Michael Lonsdale you have to watch Out 1. it's a 13 hour long movie, almost entirely improv, and a good chunk of the first 2 hours is theatre groups doing silent acting exercises - i know that all sounds unbearable but you have to believe me when i say its one of the best films ever made the first couple of hours can feel like a chore to watch but they're absolutely necessary and once you get past them and the film gets its hooks in you it is an emotional rollercoaster. Michael Lonsdale gives an incredible performance that keeps catching you off-guard and his acting towards the end of the film seared itself into my brain
A Trans Robot
For the first several minutes I heard Mr. Bean instead of Sean Bean and was very confused
Sara Amorosi
Drink when: a word ends in th instead of s
A_Aphelion
*changes the name of the group chat to "Fucked into a cocked hat"*
Maybe something like Blades in the dark Alice? Where there is a mechanism to go back and do the planning stuff
Claudia
Listened to the whole episode only to get insanely excited about the fact that in two weeks they're doing Van Helsing, one of my unironically favourite movies
Since we are all personal friends here, does Alice have any notes on running this as a TTRPG, and if so can I have them please?
British Pterodactyl
I also wanted to say to my fellow comrades that I should have included the word reference on Abi's "joke about the gender identity clinic..." I do not want to be insensitive to her, nor to anyone in the LGBTQ community. This podcast has helped me become not just a supporter, but an LGBTQ ally and further understand what that community has gone through and still goes through in Britain (I am a yank). And I would like to thank the hosts for making that possible. Also, the reason I post so much here is that my brain is normal(-ish) and happier without social media. So I apologize if I clog up the feed with my ramblings, but I love the community here so I'll be spending the day making 2300 cardboard cutouts to watch further movies with.
British Pterodactyl
I am soooooo looking for them talking about the 2 scenes in Tomorrow Never Dies where M and Moneypenny do a total 180 and condone James' sleeping with women to extract information and where Johnathan Pryce tries his hand at kung-fu.
Philip Brooks
Alice, In the SAS, For Real THIS TIME
James Cézanne-Taipale
Great, so now that we’re all friends here can I maybe get a ride to the airport from one of you?
heffa
I dont know if I could have a date with an Abi cardboard cutout. It wouldnt withstand either the Shibari ties or the flogging xo
heffa
The style of showing all the complicated details that go on behind intel and covert work is brilliantly shown in some of the fiction novels from ex-SAS guys, like Andy McNab, Chris Ryan, etc
WRT the bit at the end about the Good Friday Agreement - filming ended a month before the agreement was signed, so I'd guess they added it to stay current.
Meonlights
What do I do if I got the FNV joke but already am on HRT? Panik??
Bean there, Sean that.
Angerboda
im Delighted that the Gang knows us all Personally, and arent At All SARCASTIC. (My heart is Broken now; Think of the Cat!)
Slugnoid
I'd subscribe to an alice dev and abi pod about the sharpe series
British Pterodactyl
Thanks for mentioning the KJB drinking game in this episode, Devon! I'm flattered I got a genuinely good laugh from each of the hosts! I'm parasocially famous now! I should mention, for Alice's fantastic/baffling part, I wanted to clarify to the fellow patreon members. I meant when Alice says "a baffling line" like she says before the I never learned to read drop. Or when she says "a fantastic line" before the Timothy Dalton drop "Looks like Sanchez's law operates north of the border too". More formulaic, Alice says, "a adjective/adverb line" followed by a drop. So for you playing at home, don't get alcohol poisoning! Finally, next week will be the last week I change my name in relation to the movie. I don't have the creative capacity to think of a banger joke every week that can fit into the name. Albeit, I really like this name because I have a feeling they talked about this.
God dammit and Sharpe too
Robert Young
Handcuffing a case to someone's wrist is apparently more about making sure the case arrives with the courier as it does with keeping someone from taking it; clearly, if someone wants the contents of the case bad enough, they'll take it, but what you don't want is the case accidentally left in the washroom at Zurich Central station.
Alexa
Just to settle the minds of those listening: No, you are not going insane: Stellan Skarsgård was not in Knives Out. Given she's mentioned it in exactly the same context previously I think Abi was doing a callback joke.
Jacob Vardy
Genuinely, fully, this film is the apotheosis of 20thC Hollywood. It's the pinnacle of 1970s New Hollywood films. It's tightly scripted and well acted. The characters are all mundane - not super human or fantastic. The film predates the bloat of cheap money after 2001. It's from before the practical effects industry was gutted by CGI... Not that i dislike contemporary films but in many ways this movie is the last of its kind.
Bryce Connor
Omg I am just starting this I'm so fucking excited! Also please do Sneakers next!!
Y’all just absolutely fucking roasted me with that Fallout New Vegas joke
Dormagio
While my pick for a cardboard cutout would be abigail, I prefer to imagine I am listening with Spicy Fruit Toast.
Would that be the "King James Bible" drinking game?
"the KJB drinking game."
SpookyPenguin
fuck yeah my favourite car chase and sean bean being an idiot.