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S3E8.5: Master and Commander

🕑 Added 2023-12-14 00:45:34 +0000 UTC
S3E8.5: Master and Commander

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Spidlerlope

This will be forever one of my favorite episodes because I had a special interest in naval technology in the age of sail pre-cracking. And looking back on it, it's a good movie if HORRIFYING. May have had a effect on me not wanting to join the military at the time (thank goodness).

NowhereMan661

Masculinity is a cope for dealing with the meaningless misery of this awful life we live. That life just happens to take the form of a warship in this movie.

A Goblin

I really do want Mistress & Commander….

Gabe

I'm sorry, but if anyone is going to give the message "American's you're not always the good guys" it is not going to be the fucking *British*

deathbysamurai

Incorrect, the fan claim was that "they didnt want to piss off americans" but per the screenwriters the fact that only one book is about fighting the Americans and the entire rest of the franchise is fighting the French they thought it was inappropriate to have a character known for fighting the French not fighting the French

Jennifer

TBF, Mariner has zero way of knowing the truth of that, and when I watched the actual TNG episode 'Lower Decks', it felt ... not exactly that Sito didn't volunteer, but kinda like, from what I recall, 'you really ought to do this very risky mission if you really want to make lieutenant'.

Corporal Burpfart

Abi I think it's worth mentioning that Mariner is absolutely wrong about Picard ordering her friend to her death - Sito was offered the mission and took it voluntarily. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Sito_Jaxa. Mariner's grief is worth mentioning, but largely because she's unable to face up to the truth that her friend knowingly risked her life for Starfleet, and died. That's not "what it's like to be that guy's friend", it's "what it's like to be that guy's friend if you can't engage honestly with the reality of an unpleasant situation".

Katrina Szetey

"This film is incredibly well put together" yes well, Peter Weir. And it's not the only Peter Weir film to explore the idea of war maybe not being such a fine thing - let me introduce you to a film called Gallipoli.

Scottish Gentlemen

Using Star Trek to Understand Things is a bigger part of my internal monologue than I'd usually care to admit. Fantastic episode!

The Beak TM

I would go one step further on the fact that you can train to be a good leader and say that you straight up don’t have to be a leader. Statistically most people won’t be. But that just shows how individualistic our society is.


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