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S4E11.5: The Mission

🕑 Added 2025-04-11 14:00:26 +0000 UTC

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Willi Schinmeyer

While you're doing Catholic movies, how about Constantine?

JD Starflower

Having listened to the comments at the end of this episode about the cinematic treatment of indigenous americans, I am now curious to hear KJB’s reaction to Last of the Mohicans (1992).

Chibigodzilla

I'm not sure I would agree that the two films address the same themes.

Patrick Lopez

The Mark David Chapman joke was aaaaaaaaaaaaaces

weronika mamuna

oh interesting! i watched The First Omen and was gonna catch up on Immaculate to do a comparison

Gareth Dennis

YES

Gareth Dennis

okay I love Devon so much for the insert double gag, it ruined me

meg

highly recommend a better movie (that is actually gay) about indigenous issues, religious repression of these cultures in latin america, and colonialism (and neocolonialism!) called Sueño en otro idioma (I dream in another language)

Keith D. Jones

Intent, impact, enabling application beyond the intent

BarFly

Liam Neeson fact: this movie came out the same year he guest starred on Miami Vice

Evie K

Was also going to say this. November has mentintioned In Bruges on the pod before so I have high hopes for this film making an aperance in robbery season. I think the alcoves scene has potential to completely derail the pod for at least 10 minutes.

-Kris-

Moral of the story: God's blessing and support flows from the barrel of a gun. Kill that cardinal.

-Kris-

Pope Judas, God's representative on Earth, tasked with tracking down Jesus. Why do you think they put up a big cross at every new church? They've gotta be ready when they catch Him.

-Kris-

"Let this cup pass from me." "No, My Son." "Then of the day or hour or place You shall find me, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor You, Father." *Sound of sandals running over land and water into the distance

-Kris-

Showing little pictures of Jesus and going "have you seen this guy?" Brings to mind a fascinating imaginary religion where we believe the Messiah has already come, but is dodging His responsibility to Destiny and all that, so an international manhunt ensues

mark bondioli

I don't see why they wouldn't just watch The Hobbit from 1977. I know there was that short film version from like a decade earlier but it's like 12 minutes long and Rankin Bass did a good job with their version.

Tia Shafee

I mean, that would have to be Desolation of Smaug, which is simultaneously the heist bit and the classic approach of this podcast by watching the second one!

Andrew Dunn

I listened to the bit you're talking about, and no sorry you're taking them wrong . First of all, the host themselves are creatives. They're talking about pirating from owners/capitalists, for work that creatives have already been paid for. There is clearly a line between people who own creative works, and people who make creative works. It's not a matter of brush broadness, they're two different class entities with different class interests.

Nah

Though I will say that the ending caption pissed me off because the film is like "these people still fight to defend their culture" but the whole film prior was about glorifying the people who were committed to erasing their culture, justifying their humanity by how well they sung christian choir arias and built violins. It's a truly unjustified end note for the film it's appended onto.

Jacem

The vibes of Devon’s joke were so strong I didn’t even notice they messed up and got the wrong song.

Wuppdich

My version had a post credit scene of the cardinal staring straight down the barrel of the lens

John Leavitt

The thing is THE FIRST OMEN is the better movie about the same themes but IMMACULATE is like the rubber monster Tales From The Crypt version which is arguably more fun

Keith D. Jones

Regrettably, the sentiment enables its application with a broader brush

Keith D. Jones

Sadly, no

Nah

I thought this was an interesting film to connect with the then-ongoing South American dirty wars and ongoing Reagan era Monroe doctrine shit, if only to provide an angle on the inadequacies the podcast already covered.

DocBones

This is actually free on Tubi

Ross Nolan

Would 'The Grand Budapest Hotel' count as a heist film? I love that one and would love to hear their take on it.

Evelyn Miner

I love when Devon goes fujoshi mode

Chibigodzilla

If we're going to continue with 'Religion Season' I would like to request Immaculate (2024)

Wolfman Jack

"Incongruous on a Horse", was my band in high school.

Wolfman Jack

"We are Catholics. We believe in the teachings of Cathol and everything he stood for..."

neoncity

Can't wait to hear November's take on Conclave! Especially the monologue on doubt delivered in the beginning by Lawrence

1st gen exvangelical socialist daddy, my child will have no shame

Devon carrying all their podcasting equipment up a hill as penance for fumbling the joke

Pudlord Tynan

This is a truly surreal experience for me. I am half Paraguayan and hearing the combined Kill James Bond talking about the Guarani, made my brain buffer. Paraguay is often ignored, or when alluded to for a joke is relegated to shit hole, Nazi Safe Haven or someway shifty (even Charlie and the Chocolate Factory isn't safe from this). The languages spoken in Paraguay are Spanish (Castellano) and Guarani, and often the two are mixed in and out of each other in conversation. In a weird reverse of the Irish/English language dynamic in Ireland (where I'm also from - I still remember Patriot Games), where everything is written in Irish and English but Irish is largely not spoken often - Very little in Paraguay has written Guarani, even though its common part of everyday speech. Thanks for reading!

mark bondioli

The Hobbit was mentioned during this episode. Does that mean we're finally getting it as a robbery season episode?

Gil the Gilded Dragon

I thought the response to "may the force be with you" was "& with your force ghost"

Andrew Dunn

I would bet my life that the position of everyone on the podcast is to always pay small creators, and pirate from huge corporations if necessary

Its Devon Babeyyy

It was, yes. I trusted at least one of them would fucking know what a hurdy gurdy is

Damien Tonkin

Ok I found an article about the changes from 2008, November is right, "and also with you" is now only correct in Star Wars. That's even funnier.

Damien Tonkin

Just responding to the question in the opening. Catholic (at least round these parts) say "peace be with you", to which the response is "and also with you". This is now also the cannon response to "may the force be with you" to the relief of nerds rainsed catholic everywhere because it's a hard reflex to repress. I think the "and with your spirit" thing might be protestant but in fairness I haven't been to church since before Benedict was pope and he changed a lot of the words by having everything retranslated from the Latin literally. I remember there was a period when everyone was upset that the English mass didn't make grammatical sense anymore.

mortran

Absolutely watching this film when I get a minute. Still not hearing my name mentioned at the end tho... have I done something to offend?

weronika mamuna

you mean the one about how piracy is oftentimes the only way to obtain a quality version of the movie because distributors just don't care about it?

Keith D. Jones

Anybody know if that was a joke about pirating creative works rather than paying for them or if that was serious? As someone who has been told, "Why should I pay for your [creative work] when I can get it for free?", the joking about not paying for creative work on the podcast is depressing. It's come up on more than one episode, and it's actually starting to get to me.

PrismShank

maybe it was the milkshake

Lauren Shear

The Fitzcarraldo reference reminded me how I YEARN for y'all to do a Werner Herzog film at some point.

Lauren Shear

Gary, you're a genius.

SpookyPenguin

I like big milkshakes

Nick Gully

Wet, Cold, Jesuit Summer

Enver

I love so much that Abigail also doesn't speak religion, just like me ❤️ Her also not knowing the terminology makes me feel included.

Douglas Bishop

Gonna have to drag all your podcasting stuff up a waterfall to redeem that manged joke lol

AaronMk91

Also I think maybe he redidcovers his biological family but since five has only known tribal life. It's very bad. Between this and The Mission was one of a set of movies my well meaning liberal mom (who not votes Trump) got into when I was in Highschool and she ended up making me watch for, I dunno, Environmentalist Reasons

AaronMk91

If you are going to do a season based around bad movies about indigenous struggle then I want to recommend The Emerald Forest, a movie about an uncontacted tribe in Brazil that kidnaps the blonde haired blue eyed son of an American engineer there to build a dam or mine or something. The blonde haired blue eyed boy is adopted by the tribe and grows up to be a quirked up blue eyed blonde haired white boy who becomes the chieftain or shaman for the tribe after they fail to stop the White People, and in a magic frog trip manages to summon an epic rainstorm to wash away the dam.

Ross Nolan

I very much agree. I haven't had a chance to listen to this episode but speaking as a vaguely Catholic believer (technically agnostic but leaning much more towards belief) I've been very impressed by this religion season and how engaging and thoughtful all three hosts have been.

Fred Carson

Abi’s idea ~6:00 of confessing to a priest that you’re murdering him is something that was done in In Bruges, to Ciaran Hinds!

Dr. M.R. Geldof

I think the musical instrument Devon was thinking of was a Hurdy Gurdy

James Rule

I have something to say about this movie. The Mission statement, if you will...

Andrew Dunn

Imperialism: the Heist form of Capitalism

Doug King

Dev, Nova and Abi can't see the huge grin on my face as it was announced that they are going to do the Fast Saga.

TorvusPrime

Absoloutely fiending for the "A Serious Man" episode very excited to hear the analysis

James Vacca

I watched this in class at my Jesuit highschool and it was a weird experience. I'm not sure what we were supposed to get from seeing it but as a burgeoning queer pagan, I didn't get the memo. Also, Conclave lets fucking goooooooooooo.

Benjamin

While I don’t want Nova to disassociate, I do really want to see you guys talk about Conclave.

bobbler42

“All transporters are Jason Statham vehicles, but not all JS vehicles are transporters…“

Jermy

I watched this in 2007 after renting it from an independent dvd rental store. The guy working had it up on the tv. He’s also how I found out about The Duellists

James

Ngl, I think I’m preferring the bonus feed religion season to the main feed heist season. Please do continue with the religion theme!

Jermy

You wanna talk about sounding incongruous, check out Harvey Keitel in The Duellists (love that movie)

Ben Schwabe

I watched this movie in High School Spanish class. Shoutout to Ms. Chinian, you did not do a good job teaching Spanish but you had great taste in film.

Maladapted

Not this dropping the same day that KJB highlights does Stellan Skarsgard breaking through the lesbian forcefield. She likes her boys haggard, muddy and dehydrated

Tripp

"A cool instrument like an oboe"

Tall Jeff

Devon really practicing contrition and repentance this episode in that cutaway, maybe we’re too deep into Catholic season.

Gary

When you think about it, colonialism is also heist season.

Anarcho Slowpoke

I have been at the Iguazu falls 14 years ago. It’s both terrifying and beautiful at the same time. Mostly because at least back then, you could just go on a pier above the falls with just a thigh high fence. One of my school mates lost a hat because it was sucked in by the air pressure. One of the places of all time though. 10/10 can recommend!