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S4E22.5: Under the Skin

🕑 Added 2025-09-11 14:53:02 +0000 UTC

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-Kris-

I have actually done the Jason Bourne disappearing bit in real life, but the secret was to drop behind a knee-high wall and scurry

MagneticRose

This does sound like a really interesting film, though it hits some specific triggers of mine that mean I sadly can't watch it. It was nice to hear you talk about it, and to experience such a powerful film through your conversation! But especially on the re-listen, I feel like there a side to this film or a reading of it that I'm surprised you didn't discuss, or seemingly think of. I don't think this is a film that intends to be transmisogynist, but I feel strongly that that's a reading of it. Her character looks like a woman but under her surface she isn't human, she preys on men and that's deliberately coded sexually, she starts to lose track of what she 'really' is and starts trying to actually live as a human woman (which is established to be impossible), she is confused by her own genitals during intimacy, then during sexual contact a man discovers her true nature and is motivated to kill her out of disgust and horror. On the face of it, that sequence of events could be straight out of a "Silence of the Lambs (with aliens)" story, but you clearly didn't feel that when watching it. Is there something about the experience of watching this film that sidesteps a transmisogynistic narrative or reading? From hearing you talk about it, it feels like the choice of having her be a woman does, perhaps unintentionally, echo our culture's transmisogyny? I think there's probably an interesting conversation there about how attempts to shift narratives around sexual violence and have a woman be a predator of men in this particular way, especially paired with her not being human, might fall into or be constrained within existing tropes and fears rooted in transmisogyny.

Ada Bee

Best movie of the 2010s? I think you're forgetting about a little film called Mad Max: Fury Road.

Peter Paul Rubens' Muse

just before the hour mark of this podcast i began to understand this film as like. shoot'n'cry the little mermaid

ZaitsevFred

"into the sluice chute, flyboy" was right there

John Leavitt

It’s wild that a major part of that movie is Redford’s character unspoken but plot relevant crush on Brad Pitt’s character

Juice

only the Void can reduce a man to a soup-like homogenate

Luca

I've been meaning to pitch it for a while and it just got sadly relevant, so... would you be interested in taking a look at 2001's Spy Game? In a way, it's both a spy movie and a heist one.

spectralspook

"Wel. Come. ToMy. Black. Void." Sluicer caroline polachek

Nick Siepmann

Recently joined the Patreon, so I'm working through from the beginning in between new episodes - this worked out perfectly, in that after the interesting but emotional hard going of this episode, I reached the Top Secret! episode. Some days are hard-hitting analysis days, some days are for listening to Abigail cry-laughing about gloriously stupid visual gags