LGR Oddware - Radius Pivot Display

SuperTekBoy

Is that the same Entex that Siemens bought in the early 2000s? https://https://www.cnet.com/news/siemens-acquires-entex-to-push-into-u-s-services-market/.cnet.com/news/siemens-acquires-entex-to-push-into-u-s-services-market/

LGR

And the coolest of cool comments. Glad you enjoyed it!

LGR

Happy first LGR patron video! And thank you for the support :D

CupcakeComrade

This is the first video i get to watch after becoming a pateron?! AMAZING! its so cool (and i also noticed you watched technology connections hurricane lamp video >>)

LGR

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed! I'm not familiar with that one, but I wonder if it would pair well with the SGI O2 that I have. Been meaning to cover that one for years.

LGR

Hehe, I genuinely considered it, and even shot some test footage in portrait. I just hate how it looks on *EVERY* device but a phone. Plus, I'd have to re-do almost every single shot since they were composed for 16:9 and not 9:16, so I end up with tons of black empty space on the top and bottom regardless.

Magnus Köhler

Cool monitor, cool shirt, cool crab and cool Technology Connections. All in all a very cool video.

Clint you should have filmed this in portrait mode.... Excellent video, your ability to keep my interest for nearly half hour in a video about a monitor is amazing as usual.

Seth C

Exceptional video sir- will the SGI 1600SW be next? Now that monitor had a wacky card and required resolution. Also would have been great to see this monitor on top of a Mac IIFX based on how rare both were at the time.

LGR

Sure thing! Also made a video about it, although that was over a decade ago now :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjV6sA4TjP4

Asaf Sagi

That air hockey game brought back memories. I had forgotten all about it, so thanks for that!

LGR

Indeed! Not something that's usually obvious unless you're swapping back and forth between refresh rates :)

Steve Lovelace

I never realized that the cursor blink rate in DOS is tied to the refresh rate of the screen. It makes intuitive sense, but I never thought about it.

Tyler Kurth

I have two portrait monitors with a landscape monitor sandwiched between them and I am certain it is the most Ideal screen orientations to have. Great vid!

LGR

I hope you have a better weekend 👍

LGR

Imagine what it was like before I lubed it up. The noise was so awful I thought something was broken!

LGR

Curious what was terrible about them! Seems to me like a highly useful and capable display for '91

LGR

Ahh dang, too bad you don't have them anymore but at least they were saved! Yeah I haven't seen if the Mac Pivots work on the PC, or vice versa, since there were specific MultiView cards released for both PC and Mac sides of things and Radius's monitors for each platform were sold separately. It would be fun to try though, presumably after putting together a VGA-DB15 cable with the proper pinout.

LGR

For real, it would be a perfect fit

LGR

Hehe, yes. Always wanted to try out an Alto.

LGR

Sure would! I might have to test it out on a newer system that allows manual rotating of the OS through software, then plop some MAME gameplay on here

LGR

Thank you!

LGR

From what I gather, certain professional applications were said to include support for it from 1992 to 1994 or so. I don't know if they followed through on the marketing promises though.

Frederic St-Georges

That CRT is so cool! But damn the noise it makes when you rotate it makes my skin crawls...

LGR

There will be one in the final video :)

JockeTF

Great video! But, perhaps an epilepsy warning is in order for this one?

Zem Hysong

My setup at home is a 32 inch ultrawide, and 2 27 inch monitors. One is in Portrait mode, and I'll never go back It's SO worth it.

Akselmo

Had somewhat crappy friday, this will cheer me up!

Vladimir Vyun

Wow, that's cool. I've had a rotating LCD monitor in mid-late 2000s. But a rotating CRT monitor? That's new to me.

Asaf Sagi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM82T3C2Ik

Asaf Sagi

Oddware episode about a display that goes both ways. Happy pride month, y'all!

Ðementation

Wow, I cant believe you got one of these. We had one at my company back in the 90s. They were terrible ! But computer companies were throwing everything at the wall to see what stuck.

Adrian's Digital Basement

I worked in a computer store in the early 90s (while I was in high school) and I remember seeing one of these come through the store. I was so intrigued by it! It was hooked to a Mac and until this video, I had no idea it could also work on the PC! So cool! Even more wild is back in 2017, a friend saw these on the street and asked if I wanted them: http://imgur.com/a/rjQXAo4 Of course I said yes as I can't let a CRT get trashed! Yep one was the pivot color and one the pivot monochrome! Both had been rained on (it is Portland after all) but both worked. I had no idea these worked on the PC and gave them to a friend who was a Mac guy. They went on to be used by him! I did try a regular VGA cord but it didn't work. (And you had mentioned it needed a special cord) The color monitor had the Mac DB15 still attached which my friend used. Anyway fascinating monitor and great video showing it off!

electricitynerd

Awesome video! And good thinking to check if Sim Tower would work in portrait mode… shame that it didn’t take advantage. Such a wonderful game.

Would definitely love to see the disassemble/recap either on blurbs or future LGR

aquaz

Xerox Alto experience with your PC

Alyxx the Rat

That is one hot display. Would've been awesome to play arcade games on.

Lars Hammer Andersen

Computer Reset? Is that a place, magazine, store or something else?

Uncleawesome

Interesting monitor :) And this is something I never say, I don't know why but you look great in this episode :)

I use a portrait Ultrawide next to my 16:9 main monitor and it's super handy. Highly recommend a portrait ultrawide, Clint.

Ryan Rardin

I wonder if there was any software made that natively supports this thing?

moosemaimer

107Hz? John from DF is going to be breathing down your neck to get his hands on that thing.

moosemaimer

I was gonna say turn it into a 3-axis joystick and play Descent. Or even better... adapt a H/V shooter like Salamander and flip the screen between stages.

Kris Asick

Mmm! You know what would've been the perfect Win 3.1 game to test on this monitor? HYPEROID! :o

Pablo Rodriguez

Nice to see a product that not only actually does what it's supposed to, but it's actually useful (within its limitations, of course).

LGR

Haaa 😄

Artemis Tosini

I see you are a fellow Dietz Nut

Andrew Kirkby

PIVOT!!!! Sorry, I had to. I’ve been trying to get a radius portrait display for my Mac IICX for a while now.. This is mega cool though! Props to that tech connections video too..! :)

LGR

I watched through the whole thing here on the YT app without issue, hm. What section are you getting frame drops? If anyone else is also having problems, lemme know!

Lucas J. Chumley

Is it just me or does this upload feel like it didn’t process right? I’m getting hella weird dropped frame-esque lag in random places.

LGR

🦀🕶

LGR

Missed opportunities!

LGR

Thanks!

LGR

Always liked the way those looked. I'd probably almost never use that mode either but I'd like the fact that it was there!

LGR

Not to my knowledge, and there's no mention of the Mac in the manual. Far as I know Radius always sold their Macintosh-compatible monitors separately, since the software, graphics card, refresh rate, and connectors were all different.

TBthegr81

When we are talking rotating screens my mind goes straight to my Thinkpad X60T / X61T Tabletmode was never used, but it was very convinient to rotate the screen to show a buddy on the other side of the table something :P

LGR

Yeah I gotta get in on that. Don't have any more space on my desk but perhaps with a VESA mount on an arm of some kind!

Pietro Gagliardi

But did this monitor also support the Mac? If so that seems very out of place for them... unless classic Mac OS didn't support dynamic resolution changes at this point? Wouldn't surprise me with all the DIP switch settings on my DB-15 to VGA adapter

LGR

Heh, I forgot the tablet was in the frame. I've almost always got YouTube going while recording b-roll. Oh well, now it's a shoutout!

aetherspoon

I actually have a portrait monitor + ultrawide setup! I use the portrait monitor for email/chat/discord and anything else that makes sense for vertically oriented content. It is a cheap USB-powered portable monitor that happens to be a 1080p/HDR monitor. Highly recommended.

LGR

It's not visible in person. That's just what you get when filming a CRT sideways, especially at mismatched vertical refresh/shutter speeds :)

Valora Inverse

Oh, that's neat! I'm very not-versed in like. Refresh things and how they work, but is that diagonal refresh line concerning at all? It feels like it should be to me since I've never seen one like that, but, like I said, no experience.

Curus Keel

3:19 nice Technology Connections cameo!

Very cool. The slow speed of the 2D graphics kind of kills this, unfortunately. I am interested in how the two-way communication works via the VGA plug goes.

Ian Spence

$3318? Still cheaper than an RTX card these days! What a bargain!

Gadgetman

What an awesome monitor. I absolutely love it. I remember an Apple vertical CRT monitor, but I don’t know what Apple computer it was. I use an iPad Pro 12.9” in a 360 degree keyboard case/stand. It’s so easy to change between landscape and portrait.

Kamira

You're presenting Excel on a Pivot monitor and don't make a pivot table joke? Loved the video!

LGR

If he does, I will 100% dedicate a video to it

Adam Christensen

Dude, maybe @viti95 can add Pivot Doom to his FastDoom source port? He already added completely niche things like Hercules graphics support. Pivot Doom would be an excellent blurb video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6bGwLqzEe4

Jan-Marten de Boer

I love it. I want to give it a kiss and whisper sweet words in its port. Good job on the video. 10/10 would watch a blerb on a more modern OS in the mix.

Stuart Whitehouse

Brilliant, yet again

Great video. Enjoy your week off!

LGR

Nice, a Macintosh Pivot? I'd be interested in seeing that in action out of sheer curiosity, I've only seen the stationary portrait displays on a Mac.

LGR

Ooh, I wish you luck! Mine has some nasty vertical hold/sync issues that tend to away once it warms up 10 minutes or so. A recap is in order for me at the very least. Is yours "property of Entex" as well?

Ironic timing for this video. I found one of these buried at CR a couple months ago. It has a vertical collapse and I literally put it on my bench last night to start working on it. Such cool displays!

Kevin Furr

Wow and that's a big bulky CRT getting rotated, crazy.

David Phinazee

I saw cool crab in the preview image and decided this was relevant to my interests.

Garoninja

Rotating CRTs? Madness!

Mac84

Ooo, I look forward to watching this! 👍 I have one for my Macintosh that I just picked up. If you happen to need any footage or whatnot from the Mac side, feel free to let me know.