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Small Arms of WWI Primer 147

🕑 Added 2021-11-23 05:03:15 +0000 UTC

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Logan L

Not sure if y’all try to avoid swearing but at about 106:36 Mae says “oh shit” briefly. I certainly don’t care but I know YouTube likes to nitpick. Loved the episode as always!

Philip Brucker

The most influential handgun ever IMHO.

Harry Dozier

Not a criticism, but was the safety operation so frustrating that we lost Mae's signature smile at the end of shooting?

alphawhiskey

Safety as a “concept” wasn’t really invented until 1968 and even then it didn’t find widespread adoption until the fall of the USSR left a market opening for everyone who was previously worried about global thermonuclear war.

alphawhiskey

Hey, quick question for the C&Rsenal crew: if I watch the pre-release episode and then don’t watch the public release, does that hurt your engagement metrics? I do like getting to be part of the review process but would gladly sacrifice that if it’s hurting general audience engagement.

Dr Don Hurley

Friday "show and tell"‽

Andy Oshea

Great! Thanks guys and happy Thanksgiving!

Markus B.

I need some gun info for a Christmas story. In one of the Luger eps Mae said the Luger has a bit more kick to it because of the upward moving toggle lock. How does a P08 compare to a revolver of sililar dimensions and ammo power? My uneducated guess would be better because the revolver has no recoil mitigation other than rolling back in your hand, so the Luger is still better for fast follow up shots. Ignoring the SA trigger of course.

Mick Gillen

i was watching this while cleaning and re-assembling a 1911. Old tech rules!

Ed Stewart

What’s with the weird Steyr Hahn knock-off?

Bruce Brodnax

A lot can happen in a decade. Look at us, a century on: ten years ago, we were in the middle of the Global Financial Meltdown, ammo was nigh unobtainable, and we had a leftist administration making war upon the American people. And ten years on, we... Oh sh!t, never mind: we haven't made any progress at all in the last ten years! The Americans of a century have got us whupped when it comes to advancements...

Bruce Brodnax

They were more likely to cock while holstered and then draw back then. It changes the ergonomics considerably, and of course, completely ignores all safety issues as we now consider them...

Planescaped

It looks like a 1911 made in a garage/Khyber Pass. :P

Erik

I'm gonna second the suggestion to note that these pre-1929, front locking block guns are NOT a launch pads for .38 Super. Thanks again for playing tour guide through this Age of Prototypes.

Erik

"ABOUT. . .DAMN. . .TIME!" - Nick Fury, Captain America: The Winter Soldier XD

Mr. Lee

small point of technicality: the FN 1899 actually has a completely different US patent (#621747) that is not only scaled down but has the striker fire system. Interestingly it is signed as being filed by C.J. Ehbets as attorney, though I haven't seen anything to imply it was ever purchased by colt.

Ivanovitch2885

You shouldn't have to pick a damn lock to disassemble your sidearm. I'm always fascinated by these early technological advancements in firearms because of these odd things we take for granted now. But...damn. But it's fascinating to also see how little has changed into the 1911 and all modern copies. But to be fair, Mae's hands are probably closer to a man's of the era. And that would make this tough to operate, as you guy's demonstrated. And that hammer looks a lot like a Colt single action. I had a Ruger Vaquero that I changed out to the Bisley hammer just so I didn't have to deal with the acrobatics of working the revolver with a high spur. Seems like a holdover of the revolver era.

Mr. Lee

"It might seem that the momentum of the moving parts would add to the jump of the pistol when fired, but the exact opposite is true. Muzzle jump is minimized first by the low bore line inherent in the design. It is further reduced by the upward jet of gas and swing of the lever after the bullet has left the muzzle. These factors tend to compensate for, not add to, the pistol's muzzle jump." - The American Rifleman, June 1975, Browning's First Pistol

Mr. Lee

please put in a disclaimer not to put 38 super in these, it's the same components at a higher pressure. While I know they can be shot with supers, far too many slides have been lost from cracking or downright failure around the slide lock key.

Mr. Lee

A ironic side-note, the short grip with curved heel has made a comeback with 1911 carry guns, and while it doesn't poke us fat folks or print as obviously under clothes, most people I know agree it still sucks.

Brock Gouett

Sounded great. Thank you

Mr. Lee

As a big fan of JMB I have to say I loved the episode. Thank you again for not falling prey to "Browning worship", if even to appease the masses. I still say the man was an underrated genius but he didn't bring any of his ideas into reality on his own. I do think it would be worth noting that the 1900 luger was still 7.62 parabellum. If I remember correctly (and correct me if I'm wrong as my source material crashed with my last laptop) the army was still using up stockpiles of black-powder 38 long colt, which was somewhat anemic even by contemporary standards, and the initial 38 acp loads were more powerful than the first 9mm parabellum in 1902.

Guido Schriewer

in 1 word: finally!

C&Rsenal

Just the half cock... sorta. The 1902 episode goes into more detail

C&Rsenal

Recover expediently

Pat Houlihan

It’s happening!!!!!

Steven Vanosdall

...And so it begins...

Markus B.

Oh great "another" handgun designed by Browning just like we didn't have half a dozen or so laready. Well, at least this one isn't in .32 ACP, so there is hope after all. .... Nah, just kidding. *thumbsup*

Minion

19:29 "...automatic revolver...". Last episode, I got thrown by revolvers that were referred to as 'pistols'. But now, I'm really bemused.

Minion

Our Patreon Denarii at work.

Ron

At about 33-34m, discussing the requested improvements, castings or forgings?

Kenneth Marshall

Interesting that the 38ACP caliber (ammunition) must have had some serious evaluation by the US military which should have been adequate for military needs as its comparable to contemporary cartridges However was not deemed a contender in future trials. I assume there was a 38=inferior bias regardless of velocity thanks to anemic 38 revolver offerings.

Kenneth Marshall

When I was a young lad, I worked in an old gun repair shop where the owner had a few examples in his bench area wall - both badly pitted (very badly) and he was hoping to restore someday - (he did do that kind of work and it was excellent but took him years on occassion ofr an example to be done in his spare time) I think when the shop closed decades later they were never finished and sold at auction. I wondered if anyone ever completed restoration.

Wayne Dygert

To quote Etta James: At last my love comes along. (Sigh)

Michael Wright

A question: when they removed the rear sight safety, did they replace it with a different safety? As I was listening, I was waiting for a description of a more modern safety, and there it wasn't. If they really sent it out with no manual safety, that might be worth saying explicitly.