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[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste

🕑 Added 2021-01-22 00:34:55 +0000 UTC
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste
[BOOK] Flavor Profile #2: Sesame paste

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Stephanie Li and Chris Thomas

Cheers, this are just all cellphone pics so far. Maybe in the future when we can have a more proper photograph set up I can try to shoot them with DSLR and make it better looking.

Stephanie Li and Chris Thomas

Yellow mustard is actually very traditional in Chinese cooking. It's the seed of gai choy (Brassica juncea), it's been used in Chinese cooking for a long time. After a quick google, it seems that it may came from India. Not sure, the info on internet is all mixed up with Dijon and wasabi (yellow mustard and wasabi share the same name in Chinese, lol).

Stephanie Li and Chris Thomas

Quickly heating up the sesame oil doesn't seem to affect the aromo too much. I'm sure you can try the Pantai Shrimp Paste, it won't taste bad due to all that umami. But the "shrimp oil" we have here in China is also pretty high on sodium as fish sauce, that's why we call for it as a direct sub. We once had a shrimp oil pickled chicken, it's not that shrimpy but mostly just umami.

Beth Cadwalladr

These both look delicious! I'm intrigued by the use of yellow mustard - is it a traditional ingredient in China? A European-influenced adoption? A substitute for some other obscure mustard-based ingredient? Something else entirely?

polylepis

Can't wait to try these recipes. Fish sauce has much sodium as any of the heavily salted ingredients such as douchi, doubanjiang, dark soy, etc. Pantai Shrimp Paste in soy bean oil ( might be close to what you are using?), which has 220mg sodium/TB (16grams) or 1/7 the amount in fish sauce, is available online in the US. Another question, doesn't heating that lovely toasted sesame oil kill the aroma? In Korean cuisine it is usually added cold over the already-cooked dish.

Chris Buzon

This is a phenomenal post, but I also want to call out that your photography is really great as well. Food photography is really hard!

Adrian Preece

Really great. Obviously it’s a lot of work, but I’ll be using these at the weekend because so simple to put together once you know how

Stephanie Li and Chris Thomas

A quick research gave me this video and it seems pretty legit, good thing is that it has English: https://youtu.be/0t_eT2UaxyI

JF M

Thanks Steph and Chris! Great guide with lots of detail. Definitely giving this a go this weekend. I especially appreciate the abundance of pictures (comparative to most cookbooks where half your recipes don't even get the courtesy of one picture (sorry Fuchsia) and where you have put in phonetic pronunciations.

JF M

Fish sauce is a hard one to replace in my opinion, but I feel like marmite may not be your best choice. I would consider fish sauce to have a moderate to light flavour with an acidic sharpness, a little saltiness and quite a bit of umami. Whereas I would put marmite more in the camp of an intensely deep soy flavour with massive amounts of saltiness and umami. Maybe instead make a light stock with dried mushrooms, some soy sauce and a dash of rice vinegar. This might hit some similar notes of a light flavour with plenty of umami and a little sharpness.

Emily Balk

Awesome! This seems like the style of sauce they use in a noodle dish at a Dongbei (but also Sichuan?) restaurant in my hometown. Any idea how to do the fat clear noodles that go with the sauce like in this picture? Are they something you'd make or buy? https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/UdH6Vyz9K4ITXFvjkodLgg/o.jpg

Matt Wang

This is great! Thanks for doing it. I’d love to find a reasonable vegetarian sub for fish sauce in this type of application. I know there are some “vegan fish sauces” available commercially in the states however it would be nice to have a non-faux option. Maybe marmite? Would love to hear any ideas from the community thank you again!

Stephanie Li and Chris Thomas

Hey guys, back on the book writing project now. This one doesn't have many process shots 'cause I figured mixing sauces together is not that technical and the layout of a Patreon post is not so user-friendly when having many pictures. So to keep things neat and tight, I only included a couple in this time.


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