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July, 2022 Research Update

🕑 Added 2022-08-05 18:42:04 +0000 UTC

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You know, I just kind of scanned that long post in re: Noah Smith. It probably is an indication of something or other that you're getting attention from him, but IDK if it deserves as much of your attention as that. He seems pretty clearly to be a gadfly and not a serious good-faith interlocutor. Very possibly he *is* confused on the topic of the plurality of useful epistemologies, thinking that there is a single correct one that he, Noah Smith, is facile with and that you are... not so facile. Anyway, Noah Smith does not deserve large rent-free quarters in your head. In my humble opinion.

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So Livy - who admittedly is writing in the first century - gives an account of a (quasi-legendary) sexual assault perpetrated by Sextus Tarquinius against Lucretia and the pathos of the scene is definitely in her feelings, culminating in her demanding that the assault be avenged by her kinsman ('and, if you are men, fatal to him'), before she commits suicide to clear her honor (though Livy has her male relatives insist "et unde consilium afuerit, culpam abesse' - 'from where there was no consent, there is no guilt' - meaning that an assaulted woman carried no guilt for her assault). I think that speaks to some significant feeling for the victim in such a crime, not merely her male relatives. At some point, we'll need to talk about the structure of Roman law, but by and large Roman law concerns relations between male heads of household (the pater familias) and understands almost all disputes in that form, in turn giving those men functionally total legal control over their dependents.

Question for you from the fireside today. You said: "sexual assault was a capital offense in Roman law (but as a property crime against the male guardian because Roman patriarchy)" Do you have a sense for whether a Roman would feel for the woman in such a crime? IOW, was the patriarchy bit to mean "Romans didn't care about women as people; their value was only as property" or "Romans cared, but had no legal means of codifying women's rights except as property"


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