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TMLoCL - Chapter 37

🕑 Added 2020-11-15 08:25:26 +0000 UTC

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Michael Pina

I think its less that monsters have penalties its just that sapients and demihumans have talents and skills associated to classes probably level faster as well.

GuyMagoo

Cool, this must have taken awhile. Great chapter!

Invor

Is there some penalty to skill leveling for monsters?? I mean I get that she is young but how is that her trap making is just 7 but she has killed hundreds of monsters with traps?? At first I thought skill levelling was just painfully slow but seeing other people status has refuted that. So monsters skills level slower or maybe it is because she just didn't innovate with new traps??

Mai0e

[Better First Impression][Healthy Thoughts] [First Words] Are these not her reincarnator abilities? I think they should not be visible to the crowd. Besides that awesome chapter! Big Question is, can she involve someday to a real dragon? Perhaps one which can take a human form like the silver dragon. That would great, cant wait for the next chapter.

Aldous Russell

Thanks! "[Conscripts] in warriors" should be "into" "the enemies lines" should be "enemy's lines" or "enemies' lines" "a [Witches] power" should be "a [Witch]'s power

lenkite

Well..considering that Rei has SIX open [Class Slot]'s which she can populate with [Advanced Classes] each of which will grant great stats per level, it appears progressively higher will not be good enough. It will need to be exponentially higher. Not to mention, Cadence will also level more slowly due to her sidereal evolutionary shifts.

Luminant

She gets few stats because she's a small child. She has at least four higher evolution stages to go through. Presumably, the stat gains for each one will be progressively higher. Much higher.

lenkite

Hi, it seems [Gale Wyverns] are really, really underpowered. She gets 15 stats per level while her rider gets > 25 stats per level. Also her stats are already very low compared to everyone else in the team, so she will likely get weaker and weaker as time goes on. Please fix this - how did she even manage to fight off those tentacles while these adventurers were running scared ? Actually, I suggest getting rid of the stats if you can't keep up with the load. There appear to be so many errors that it's detracting from the story. Best to have a system that gives < 10 stats per level and have each stat point mean more.

Dax

The long game is more important anyway. Surely an Adult Gale Wyvern is more powerful than an Elder Boreal Toad. That's assuming she doesn't find her way to a full dragon evolution at some point!

decentlydelirious

Thanks for the chapter! I'm surprised to see that her hunter level is 26! That seems really high, considering that the adventurers only have class levels in the the teens, and presumably having adventured for years. Is it because she only has to split exp between that single class and her monster levels?

decentlydelirious

Definitely felt that would've been the case as well, but perhaps even the lowliest of demihumans could've just stumbled into those skills by accident, esp since her skill levels in those are pretty low

Jeff091

hi, thanks for the new chapter does the dog only have an eating problem or also a drinking problem? (ours had both, the eating problem got better, the drinking didn't) we are using Gelatin to make the water solid and give it to her. on occasion we are desolving a bit of spreadable leberwurst in the water.

adam1

Are her reincarnator skills hidden to others like before?

Dylan Coles

You don't see it as much when reading the chapter, but after reading vladerags comments for this chapter, I'm impressed with how much thought is put into the system, especially for this life. It's really interesting to see how the system affects creatures of this world and why things are the way they are, even if it doesn't necessarily relate to the story at the moment.

Vladerag

I really need to explain how Luck works one of these days. XD Anyway, Karlin has a lot of Luck for a sentient creature but Luck is a bit of a mysterious Stat. One thing to remember though is that Luck can only make things happen that are theoretically possible in that situation. Basically, Luck is a dick and even if Karlin has a thousand Luck he'd still probably splat if he jumped off a cliff. Ugh, maybe I should write a post about how Luck works even before Cadence learns because otherwise a lot of things just seem strange and hard to explain quickly.

Deinos

Reply Accepted. But when you do create character sheets I expect drawings on par with D&D books!

Vladerag

*Author Descends From On High* (read: came back from work) The Komadus could not have evolved into a Wyvern, but it could have evolved into a Drake. And I have realized that saying "weakened" might not have been the best word choice. Cadence isn't technically "weakened," but if we ignore abilities and Skills, her Stats are less than an Adult Boreal Toad's. Now it is true that her Stats will be far above the Adult Toad's when she reaches the Adult stage, but she could have become an Adult of one of her earlier species with the amount of xp she has gained.

Vladerag

A lot of people do really want the details and a lot of people don't really care. This is my compromise between those views. With all of this out in the open now I don't have to spend time explaining to the reader who has what Skill and can instead focus on them using those Skills. Organically explaining everyone's Classes and Skills would take forever. Plus, if this ever was in novel form, I could insert pictures of the characters for a proper Stats sheet!

Vladerag

Stamina is recorded in percent on Character Menus. The actual reason for this though is that if Stamina was recorded in some form of units every action would cost some Stamina points. A toddler would be exhausted walking a mile, but an adult might not even notice that they have. If anything, the adult in that scenario has expended more energy than the toddler, but they have a larger pool of energy and more muscles to spread out that effort. In short; I'd have to spend way more time than I would want to deciding how much Stamina a character used doing their actions.

Patrick C

Hoping for more soon, can't wait to see how things turn out.

Vladerag

There are a couple of reasons that we get to go into next chapter, but even aside from that a low Reading and Writing Skill Level would be unsurprising. The Writing Skill doesn't require you to write in any particular language, merely that you write. So if a Monster that gained Demihuman intelligence used a system of symbols for recording things they would gain the Writing Skill. The Poetry one is a bit harder to explain. Technically, it wouldn't be impossible for a creature with the intelligence they suggested to write poetry, but it would be unexpected and suspicious.

Vladerag

The other commenters mostly got it right. Perhaps I shouldn't call it weakening herself though. It is more that for the amount of xp she has acquired she could have much higher Stats. She has had several horizontal evolutions, and while I don't want to do the math right now, that xp could have probably pushed her to Adult in one of the earlier species. It is true that as a Gale Wyvern she will be much stronger than those other species when she does reach the Adult stage, but right now she would struggle against an Adult Boreal Toad in pure Stats. Edit: she would struggle, but she would win. There are more to Stats than Stats, as silly as that is to say. Her various racial abilites act as multipliers for a lot of her stats in many ways. Her hide and scales make her End and Vit more effective and her Aerokinesis makes her more Agile and somewhat Stronger. Plus her Skills raise *effective* Stats, and so doesnt show up on her Stat sheet.

Joe ?

Also Poetry and writing. That's gonna bug me unless it's addressed somehow

Luminant

That's possible. It could also be that she could have evolved to Wyvern from the Komodu Lizard or whatever it was called. We have no way of knowing the species' relative distance from Lesser Wyvern unless the Author tells us.

Markus

Kobolds are in many fictions described as distant relatives to dragons. So I am fairly certain, that she got Wyvern because of the kobold evolution.

тђє v๏เ๔

Thats true, but then why did noone react to a damn Wyvern having Etiquette as a skill? 🤣🤣

foldedcorners

From what I understand, it's only skills that she inherits from past lives like [First Words]. Remember she had to actually gain the skill Etiquette and Cartography herself this life. Her knowledge of her past lives let her easily gain those Skills.

Chrysdt

Thought so too. Why mention them at all?

Chrysdt

Exactly. It is like short term vs longterm. Or Dragon vs toad i guess...

Chrysdt

Vladerag stated In an earlier post that he wanted to be done with describing mechanics and wanted to get back to writing story. Maybe he thinks that we expect all those details. ((@vladerag: i do not, only when it pertains to the story and even then it may be enough to state she was not succesfull. I.e. when she tried to extinguish the smoke)

тђє v๏เ๔

I might remember things wrong, but isn't it so that the skills she has from other lives are hidden in her current life? If not, i dont get why none reacted to a Wyvern having Etiquette and Cartography as skills Good luck on the puppy, and good luck with your shoes 😂

Streetwise

I dunno, spending large amounts of time without hands or the ability to do a lot of the things you're used to would be trying. I can't blame her for wanting to get more humanoid, at all. Objectively? yes, there were better choices than Kobold for her power levels, but without it, would Wyvern been available? would she have been stuck in that fishbowl until the giant monster came looking?

Viria

Yeah I was pissed at her for taking the Kobold evolution like that. Unless it allows her to evolve into a Dragonkin or something similar in the future.

Luminant

You can't really call it weakening herself. She started off as a common monster, and only managed to become a wyvern because she went through all those evolutions in-between. She's only "weak" because of the circumstances of her own birth, not because of her choices. Except turning into a demihuman with basically no stat gains and obtaining a common class, that was a bit silly.

Claus Jørgensen

wile switching race meens she need more exp to lvl op she will get more race skills and better race so i think it dependt a lot on what she got from the races and what race she starts and ends wit

Imran

Chapter 30, it was explained that while switching races would allow you to pick up new traits, it would stunt your growth because you would be starting as a young monster while requiring the leveling experience of an adult. And low-leveled monsters would stop giving XP, so you'd need to hunt stronger and stronger monsters to level. Essentially it resets age/level but not the XP required to level.

Markus

Well, what we know for sure are their stats Wil: 108 Cha: 99 vs Wil: 175 Cha: 185 So I have the impression that Rey wouldn't have much of a problem if she tried to convince Cadence of something.

Deinos

I see, so she already limited herself to monsters by upgrading her wyvern species(which I think was only mentioned as a side note)... who'd have thought*sarcasm*. I like that it turns out to be like an emphatically understood bond of friendship, and more so that she seemed to be a bit confused at the time. Although the declaration of the bond sounded much firmer than that. I wouldn't mind if she misunderstood the feeling she got from the bond, it being more of a deceptive kind, and shapes her thinking through subtle changes until she finds out how gloriously she fucked up. Brings me also to the point that she may have unlimited tries until she fucked up often enough pointwise, but I'm wondering if her mental state resets upon death or if alterations stay. Also thought Ray was a guy lol. Curious how this will continue, not really interested in knowing about anyone's stats but hers, unless it's in a concrete context of interest. Eg like Tolkien wrote an iceberg size of lore but doesn't spam the reader with it and only shows the info necessary. In any case, nice chappy!

Just Graham

Hmm, I expected them to find it odd that she has skills like reading, writing, cartography and etiquette.

Solarlancer

interesting everyone has 100 max stamina? why does that stat no grow like others

Senjo

And here I thought she has incredibly high luck this life, but Karlin has 300, dude can probably jump off of a cliff and land in a throne, become a king and get his own personal harem with this luck... Also it seems like she'll be staying with this team for a long while considering the info dump.

Solarlancer

wow first thing she does when she sees a smoke she tries to extinguish it. gave me a gigle

Loric

Only thing i can think of is that draconoid evolutions have extra requirements for levelling/evolving? But that wouldn’t make her weaker, just might take longer to level but would in turn be stronger at each level, so its probably not that

Arkeus

Oh right, I forgot, but I wonder why her having the Poetry and Writing/Reading skills didn't put a hole in the "a monster who evolved into a demihuman and back to monster" theory.

Call0013

I wonder if the Guild will have information or what she has to do get a evolution into a Dragon? I am sure ambitious Tamer would have found that information out a while ago. that Or Demi-humans that want to become DragonKin