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Episode 156 - Face The Magic Wall

🕑 Added 2024-11-06 23:42:51 +0000 UTC

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George Q

It would be very interesting to do an episode on western terror laws and the recent designation of Samidoun in North America, I’d love to hear an interview with someone from Samidoun on the show too, they do great work!

Katie Schlasner

It's really hard to talk to friends and family, because there was a lot of anger at trump. And a lot of anger at the american people. And i'm just over here going: it's like going after a group commonly known for being out of touch with the populace didn't work. I was a teen who couldn't vote in 2008 and i remember the election day optimistic talking heads going: is this the start of the end of the republican party???? Cause it was thought with their current base not expanding and old white people dying off and new millennials coming up that it would die off.. for being out of touch.... with the working class and diverse youngsters. Why would they decide on that as a strategy???? Besides the obvious: their money comes from interests that lie outside the populace.

swampnuts

Yeah I don't think the average voter gives a shit about Palestine, sadly.

Kalashnikova

I would not subject JT to that much bleep editing

David DeCorte

Yeah, they sent Torres to a zionist meet-up in the Detroit suburbs to convince attendees that Harris is "a pro-Israel stalwart who deserves their votes," as the Jewish Telegraphic Agency put it.

kim

please get claudia and/or karina on! that’d be awesome

Andrew Murray

For episode 200 they should do a "Lost Content" special.

Andrew Murray

They fucking what?? I didn't hear about this. That's insane.

David DeCorte

The Kamala campaign sent Richie fucking Torres - America's number one genocide fan - to Michigan as a campaign surrogate. They couldn't have fucked this up any worse if they'd tried.

diego

getting claudia and/or karina would be so cool 😭

Andrew

California is on pace to uphold the 13th amendment loophole for slavery. Still need more votes to be processed to be sure. On the proposition (6), literally nobody offered an opposition to the ballot measure, but I guess millions still believe slavery should stay.

Bill Vog

I think people thinking that foreign policy was THE #1 motivating factor for Dem voters is wrong. She had no answer for the economy and inflation plus she stuck to Biden who everyone hates and is brain dead the last 2 years. Also she's shitty at politics only ever won anything because CALI based

RedPine🌲

My baby leftist friend didn’t go to class yesterday she was so upset by the election. I’m sending her the link to this ep in the hopes it makes her realize the sky isn’t falling and there are things we can do.

Jeremiah

I feel you. That's the thing though is they don't really do the mass line and in my experience they just show up to struggles other people have already done the work of building to try and co-opt it. I recommend FRSO over PSL, though full disclosure I'm biased as a member of FRSO. But I came to FRSO after getting fully skeeved out by PSL for these and other reasons

🔻ic 🔻inegar

I have reservations about the PSL, but, from what I've seen, the party leadership is pretty solid and is in frequent conversation with real radicals with experience like Dhoruba bin Wahad, while also pushing an explicitly anti-imperialist line unlike the Greens who are still hawkish on Iran, Syria, China, and Russia. I was offput by the PSL teaming up with the Greens at the tail end of the election cycle, but them working as an explicit anti-fascist United Front that can mobilize and organize large protests is probably a good thing, but I will absolutely grit my teeth about the Greens being included. This being said, they will have to prove to be able to move more militantly in the future, and provide well organized political education to the masses, otherwise they'll eventually fail.

Kalashnikova

Be honest did you record an in case the dems won episode

Elijah Crawford

No more brunch bois it's so joever

Sophie 🏳️‍⚧️

10:53 VERMONT MENTIONED LETS GO BABEYYYYYYYY

Chuck Skooch

no because kobach has long took money from pro-abortion eugenicists. Abortion in Kansas is just a steam valve for poverty.

Chuck Skooch

I really am starting to believe Americans think "Never Again" came with the caveat "unless eggs are $3/dozen" or "someone is making hollow promises about reproductive rights". This was a moral referendum and America may as well have voted for worse than slavery. If you vote in any way to support genocide, you are just clawing to get a seat at the table. If you don't have a seat at that table, you are already on it. Harris wasn't going to change that.

bridgitte chan

it would be so awesome if yall got claudia on :0 the left equivalent of donald trump on joe rogan 😭

Jeremiah

Party for Socialism and Liberation. They're one of a tiny handful of American socialist organizations with any gumption. They ran candidates in the 2024 US presidential election. Not that this necessarily invalidates them but they do have trotskyist origins and in my opinion this is visible sometimes in how they operate. But now they claim to be M-L and there's no real reason not to believe that's more or less what they are.

Alberto García

What is the psl?

Jeremiah

No mass line? 🥺

Alex Cseh

"Republicans are against abortion due to evangelical ideology and the fear of white replacement" the former is true while the latter is nonsensical as minorities such as African Americans have way more abortions than whites. So by that logic wouldnt racists support abortions as a form of indirect eugenics?

alex

we needed you guys today 🙏🏼

Karl Hungus

Jeremiah

It's a little cathartic to see PSL running but kinda opportunist tbh. They're also doing that trotskyist thing where they think if they say the word "socialism" enough and enough people see it, then that will bring the revolution forward. There's no real leadership of the people's struggles, they kinda just glom onto what has people's attention. Communists should be building fights, not doing photo ops