3rd Option for Office/Mezzanine
🕑 Added 2024-04-04 14:33:19 +0000 UTCDoor under the stairs seems to be the runaway favorite. But what if I reversed it?
Just to clear things up, the ground floor will be an office and electronics work area. The second floor will be storage.
Comments
Doug Wray
Wait a second! Where do you store the Heisenberg compensators?
Gary Rogerson
Bottom of the stairs facing the wall will be a problem sooner or later 🤷
Ed W
#3! Easier to get the forklift in place, you go upstairs the least often so putting stairs at the back makes sense
Baron van Oosting
#2 is best in my opinion. Biggest problem i see with option 3 is anytime you want to get something you have to walk clear to the back of the shop and turn around to walk the other way. Plus if you're dragging something bigger up the stairs you more have a corner on the stairs to deal with rather than just walking straight up
Terry Lawrence
I like the 3rd one, but i think the bottom turning steps will be an ankle breaker. I think a landing for turning will be safer when you try to carry that one heavy transmission when the forklift is appart and spread out all over ;-)
Thaddeus Ryan
If you need to move anything big and awkward into the office those posts will be inconvenient. Pivot, pivot, pivaught!
Eric Halcik
#3 ... the only thing is , somebody's gonna wipe out the landing supports
Stan Wright
I prefer option 2. It seems like the walls in option 3 would be limiting, and just an added expense for a storage room.
Anthony deFreitas
Not everything warrants a forklift, sometimes it's just quicker to carry it.
Keith Mezzina
3rd one looks pretty good, with more open access to the space under the stairs for shelves/storage of some sort.
Lance C
Approved!!! Make it so ...
Craig D Renwick
3rd option looks like a winner
Merritt Derr
Third option for me
Michael Wright
3rd option.
Jon Koferl
Well I like the 3rd option best so far. However I would puts sometime into routing the electrical, air and if needed water before you go much further. I hate doing things twice because I got so wrapped up in the first steps of a project... Look who I'm talking to, Mr. Project himself...
gregory mais
door at the back
terence g barrera
Neh, no bueno.
Michele Crown
Looks like third times the charm
Russell Wall
I still like option 2 the best. It just seems to be the right design for a working shop (yeah, I can’t put that into better words). It’s efficient use of space, no awkward turn while you’re up against a wall, and it allows you to swing the door open into the office without it being in the way if you choose to keep it open.
@KanoeKing
3rd option is the best. I agree with Douglas R. about railings.
Tim Allan
Thats just the best excuse to build a crane to hoist things up and down or perhaps a dumb waiter
Douglas Roelofs
I like the 3rd option better, although I would have a removable railing on the landing. and a permanent one on the stairs.
Chris M
Spiral staircases are a nightmare for carrying anything up or down unless they are extremely wide.
Casey Hill
Yeah this looks like a better use of space. You could go even wilder and have that end wall above the windows on a hinge mechanism that can be swung up via a winch mounted to the roof structure. You'd then have a large area to "reach" in with the forks. It could be that secret hidden bookcase that opened to your secret room that we all wanted as a kid. :)
Fabian Kropp
What would you carry by hand if you have a fork lift ? I see ur point but everything inconvenient to carry by hand, Wes would use his fork lift for I guess
Watch Wes Work
That might be above my skill set. I have tried to buy them, but they are out of my price range.
brian cook
Again better use of space
thedeafguitarist
3rd option is my favourite then. Most easy way to drop off stuff from the forklift.
Anthony deFreitas
3rd option looks awkward if you're carrying by hand.
Martin lewis
Nah. I don't like it nearly as much with the door next to the windows
Bill Scott
Wes, you’re asking too much of me, go with the forklift option.
Scott Finger
@WesleyTreat has it all figured out for you already. Or @Mustie1.
David Hardenbrook
The best choice yet!
Terry Thompson
Call in reinforcements. Your dad owes you a few hours of labor for keeping his barn from falling down!
Bruce Rose
Yep, this option works. Better forklift access. Consider a wider door upstairs.
Dennis Lesh
Looks like it would work just fine..........good luck.
Tim Allan
This is a clever improvement and would get my vote. How about trying out your fabrication skills and building a spiral staircase?
Britt A Releford
This version is the best yet! The stairs are great but for larger stuff and extra wide pallets, you could put double doors swing out doors on the front side of the upper level (the side facing the rollup garage doors). Youtuber Mustie1 made an elevator out of a broken man lift. Maybe you could go that route. Also a dual-tap Kegerator in the office would be a great way to relax after a hard day's work. :)
carter filiau
Yeah I'd go with this
Nicholas Hansford
Yup! Edit: In thinking about it, you could also cantilever the floor joists into the landing and eliminate the columns (general rule is 2/3 in, 1/3 out; your overhang is well under the 1/3 limit). I suggest this because columns in industrial spaces have a nasty habit of getting very personal with forktrucks.
Zach Marsh
Pretty close to six of one or half dozen of the other... but the increased access to the loading platform on #3 swings it for me...
Bill
This is best. Use the swing space for the door over a window, which would likely be unblocked anyway.
CapnMac82
Looks good to me.
Bill Rutherford
#3 is what I would want for me.
John Lottes
3rd option looks to be the best option yet.
James
Yeah I like this one over the other two options
Mike Hawkins
Wes, if you would stop eating and sleeping, that frees up another 8 hours a day to work on stuff.
Mike Hawkins
Yes, I believe this is the best of the three designs.
Isaac Wheeler
Can’t use the fork lift for everything
Thorman
I can confirm that split would bring some excitement to your life. We are renting a house with "45° stair" turn halfway up. We've tripped more than once on it.
Brien Devine
Would it be a good idea to leave the landing removable at the top of the stairs to make it easier to put heavy things up on the second floor? I like the plan.
Watch Wes Work
I'd love to, but I know how I work, and I don't see that getting finished this decade.
Watch Wes Work
Yes and yes.
Jonathon
Definitely prefer this one. It's gonna look so professional.
Terry Thompson
I still recommend removing the stairs and build an elevator platform.
Matt
I agree, this will work out much better. The double doors for loading would be safer, my opinion.
sean
Why not just have the office upstairs? Too hard on the knees or too hot in the summer?
Bumps
Not knowing what type of storage is desired, I think storage would work better being open with railings that are able to flip up out of way.
Peter Church
I like #3 better. Although if you are hand carrying something up the steps that is bulky or awkward it might be tougher to turn that corner. Of course if you keep a path clear for the forklift that option is still there. How likely to keep enough clear to use the lift? Or only store small items above in general.
Arvid Jedlicka
Assuming the upper floor can handle the load ... opening wide enough for a pallet, then forklift leaves pallet on platform and pallet jack moves it wherever in the loft. Saves on the back.
Watch Wes Work
That's probably also easier to build.
Watch Wes Work
Seems like you should put the thing you use the most on the bottom. The old setup was an office above and I never used it.
steve norton
Agree with all the guys who said "I'll trip on that split landing", geez did I work with you before?
Alan Bourassa
I would have double doors that open on the wall to use as drop area for fork lift and use stairs as access to walk up stairs.
Taylor Jennette Zhu
Number 3
Nick Hough
Looks good, but the upper door needs to be bigger for easier forklift access
Callan Christensen
I believe that is what the forklift access is for, just raise it straight up to the doorway?
Nicholas Hansford
If you care about building code compliance, that landing in option 3 wouldn't be allowed. You could fix it by having a full size landing (guessing 3x3) and one additional step on the return. It's also safer. When I build stairs to storage loft access, I prefer to go a bit wider to 4'. It makes carrying boxes feel a lot more stable.
JC
why not use the upper area for an office and ground for storage ?
Los
Consider extending the floor joists out under the platform & strengthen the upright supports. Heavy overhead loads above a walkway and all.
Kowyn Hibbert (Warrior of the Rusty Wrench)
I think option 3 is best, lots of room for forklift maneuvering for the second level landing.
Rich Wielechowski
Double landing at the bottom would be a deal breaker for me. Too hard to navigate.
Scott Finger
I suppose that's true. I guess the question is which wall would be more useful to have open. I'm not a fan of the turn at the bottom of the stairs. I can imagine negotiating that coming down with a load of stuff in my arms and missing a step.
Watch Wes Work
Yeah I should make it bigger.
Marshall
This is the best of the three options. Leave enough space between the posts for desks, couches, printers and bigger items to be maneuvered (L”d) in to the door.
centauri61032
Somehow, I think with option 3 you will always be having issues with the bottom of the staircase getting blocked with 'stuff'. Plus, it may be harder to carry some 'stuff' up the stairs with the extra curve at the bottom of the steps. Option 2 looks less likely to get fouled by things.
Christopher Hogan
The split landing is a fall hazard. I can't recall ever having seen one in a modern commercial building. There's a good reason for that. Just imagine coming down that with a heavy box in your arms. It's not ideal.
William Watson
This is now the better option. Easier fork truck access and stays compact.
Ian McKay
I think this is the better option as you have better access for the forklift. Also you could have a whiteboard for notes to left off door for store requirements etc. Easily visible when you enter office.
Michael Stern
Left a comment on previous post proposing this option this morning. Great minds... something something
Watch Wes Work
There will be a railing. I was thinking some kind of gate that I can swing open when needed.
Watch Wes Work
If I'm thinking about it right, it just trades one wall for another wall. A spiral staircase would be ideal, but that's out of my budget.
Matthew Hodkins
Looks good, I think I would add a double door over the widows if you want to fork anything wider than say 30" it will be much easier.
South Street Barbecue
Would you want a wider door for the storage area? No telling what you might come up with that needs to go up there. Something wide enough to allow a pallet to fit through the doorway.
Watch Wes Work
It keeps my knees in shape. Not necessarily the right shape...
Shimjocky
I like this version. Seems like the most access for the least square feet of the shop lost.
South Street Barbecue
With the forklift access, the stairs should only be for Wes to carry himself up the stairs. :)
Cesar
Good morning, Wes. It looks good. The only thing is that accessing stored goods may be difficult if everything is placed on pallets, with only one narrow access to the mezzanine, requiring a pallet jack and space to maneuver on the top floor.
David Yates
Looks like a good solution to me Wes.
Greg
This looks good, better access for the forklift than having to maneuver directly next to the wall
Jeff_M_PA
You might consider adding a garage door or other way to access the second floor storage area with a forklift boom. That way you could put heavier stuff up there like spare electric motors, pallet jack, etc.
Stephen Meeks
Another option would be an elevator lift for pallets accessible by a pallet jack to reduce the need to have forklift swing space taking up all your floor space.
Scott Childress
I’ll be the detractor. #2 seems to offer the best safety for human access carrying parts up and down. Without a railing on #3 (which is problematic given the dual use as forklift access), you’re one trip away from a one story fall and a fun 911 call for wifey.
Scott Finger
What if you did the green version and put the door under the stairs? Would free up all that wall space for activities. Although, depending on the clearance under the stairs, door swing might be an issue and require a slider.
Jeffry Blackmon
I've not seen the first 2 drawings.
Curtis Roberts
I definitely prefer this set up.
Dr. Internet
You aren't showing a railing, which would be required. That makes for a tight turn at the bottom, which can make it difficult to carry stuff up/down. I like the idea someone else had the other day for a lift. Keep the stairs as emergency backup, and install a lift. You are going to get real tired of climbing those stairs.
silly cat
This seems to be the best option. I think the other landing idea would have forced you to get extremely close to the shop wall with the forklift depending on what you're putting up there
Stephen Meeks
We had a mezzanine on which we stored items on pallets and shelves. We used the landing as a pallet landing and used a pallet jack to move pallets around. The guard rail included a removable chained section for access and safety. Your drawing looks similar and would give you a lot of options.
Steve Walker
The door by the windows makes more sense. Go with this one.
Shawn Patrick Medlin
I like it , and storage on top I think would be better
Christopher
I did not vote before because I dod not like either one. Good thing, Because THIS IS THE WAY WES ;)
Isaac Wheeler
Too hard to carry large/heavy/long items around the bend at the bottom of the stairs.
Adam McKnight
Just depends where you're workbench will be in proximity to the windows, i suppose. I like it.
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Makes more sense to me
Richard Smith
I like this one. You could build some under stairs storage and the tallest, most useful part would be right by the door to your workshop.
Vladik Marinovski
If you are not going to use the stairs many times, it's not an issue if it is harder to reach.
Robert
I like this one the best!
Greg G.
I like it! Looks good to me!
paul gibbs
This!
Matthew Jeffrey
I like this one of the 3
James Riordan
The best