#227: The 5th Annual Jeffrey Epstein Celebrity Telethon (feat. Felix Biederman, Liz Franczak, & Brace Belden)
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All this, and so much more, with legends @byyourlogic, @liz_franczak, and @TrueAnonPod.
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ug
At first I laughed at Brace for bitching about the vape but damn it actually is pretty annoying😆 Great episode, thanks guys
HATERSLAYER420
At around the 49:45 mark there's like 6 hits back to back and every consecutive hit was funnier
Michael S. Judge
it's the 12- or 13-part series about the PROMIS software scandal and the very sketchy death of Danny Casolaro, who was working on a huge investigation that pulled PROMIS together with loads of other shit, including Epstein long before anybody knew who he was – for some reason I can't remember the series title
Lukas McCutcheon
MJ: Brace describing the dark force released into the world after Epstein’s murder sounds like your description of (a lot of things I think but in particular) the nuke in TP: the Return.
Lukas McCutcheon
Brilliantly put
Caroline Dougherty
What was the Ghost Stories pod series recommended in this ep?
John
Ok cheers dude.
Chris
I don’t think they’re talking about leftists. They’re talking about generalized amorphous “apolitical” extremely online guys. I could be wrong tho.
John
Can someone plse explain or give me an example of the type of leftist they describe as “i’m shizo” ? I’ve never seen it. I’m in ireland so maybe its on its way over here who knows …
Scott
Felix vaped more in this episode than any other person has vaped in their entire lives.
Paul Sirota
I was listening to this on a 5 hour flight and Felix vaping was killing me.
Matt C
Felix just vapes with a CPAP
Josh Brown
enjoyed the subtle stereo panning !
Matthew Krueger
The Darth Vader breathing added the perfect aural ambiance to this episode.
Karl Childers
shit thanks for reminding me, i have that Flesh Simulator vid bookmarked but haven't watched it yet
Ashley Naftule
Ghost Stories is great, though I would say to anyone looking to jump in that the PROMIS series may not be the best starting point. My first exposure to Matt’s stuff was the first PROMIS ep and I bounced off that hard—it was just very dry and technical, and I wasn’t locked into his more sedate energy yet. I would, tho, recommend his early episode on James Jesus Angleton. It’s self-contained, engaging, and gives a good feel for his whole vibe.
Raznl
It aint fully slop until Epstine, played by kevin spacey, is a villain in a todd phillips comedy ... but I'm still waiting on a Hangover prequel where Bush, Johnson and Ford wake up one November 1963 morning in Dallas to find that they may have partied a little too hard.
Pear Is A Patsy
Idk I think Programmed to Kill is a very fascinating book and a lot of subsequent research into the interconnectivity of the deep state and the serial killer phenomenon has brought it more credulity. Franklin Scandal, Aberration In the Heartland of the Real, and recently Eye of the Chickenhawk as well as Flesh Simulator’s video Serial Killing for Fun and Profit have a lot of concrete, annotated, FOIA’d, and publicly recorded information that are directly showing you that these dark power networks exist on paper and not just witness testimony. I find this stuff is interlinked with the P2 Lodge, Gladio, strategy of tension, Epstein, etc. all things that D/C has talked about or alluded too. Not to dick ride Jimmy as I found the accusation of the “dirtbag leftist podnetwork” as an intelligence operation annoying and it detracted from his episodes, a lot of which were very well researched using historical documents. I think my main difference of opinion with that sphere of parapoltics is the gnostic christian moral worldview. As for Subliminal Jihad they ended up being way too fucking smarmy and on a listening level I found hard to enjoy, although their series on the history of Palestine and it’s oppression is decent. I feel like it was just disappointing to follow a bunch of these guys for their genuine interest and research into subjects I wanted to learn about and then see them throwing bitch fits on twitter lol
Brendan Garcia
They got mad at him for having a successful podcast and not publicly disowning his friends.
aerides
Seconding (thirding?) the Ghost Stories for the End of the World rec. Also it's the podcast they mention at one point in this episode.
Karl Childers
jesus, i just ran "bloempie van eigen tuin" through google translate and if that's a euphemism for what i think it is then that's one of the most chilling phrases i've ever heard. if you're a fan of Death//Corner then i really can't recommend Ghost Stories enough, his work is excellent especially his series on Danny Casolaro & PROMIS which Michael alluded to in this episode.
Percy Plump
Kind of alarming that nobody warned Felix of the hiss from an audible natural gas leak in his apartment. Fun ep though! It’s nice to hear Michael having a good time crackin wise
ardenwezenberg@hotmail.com
Thank you, that means the world. Was offline for a year due to sobriety and going through MSJ’s catalogue again for the second time. Approaching it from the concept of “palenkind” or “bloempie van eigen tuin” again due to my mentor’s Indonesian heritage but I still need Epstein and the Dutroux case as focal points, navels, or ciphers.
Karl Childers
Ghost Stories For The End Of The World podcast just wrapped up an extraordinary series on this subject, i doubt there's very much that Michael or any other podcast could add to their coverage
aerides
Yeah I understand that. The Painting episodes are good because he just lets her talk the whole time and she basically outlines the entire book with some personal anecdotes of how she researched it and what her life was like while writing it. She is also on the Ghostbusters episode which I personally thought was not very good but I highly recommend the main interview. On the other hand, you could just read her book and skip the podcast as it's the same material. As for his reliability, the others that I enjoyed were about the Templar and rosicrucians and freemasonry and the crusades. Again he has a guest who seems knowledgeable. But in truth I know nothing about those topics (and don't care THAT much) so who knows if it was all bunk. But I'm listening to the United Fruit one now which is something I do know about and so far he's been accurate.
John Arena
incredible ep, but please share the gofundme to get Felix a mic cover
ardenwezenberg@hotmail.com
@MichaelSJudge will you or have you made anything on the Marc Dutroux case and the "roze baletten", or "pink ballets" and its connections to the Brabant Killers? And if not, do you have any suggestions research wise? Thank you for you and your brother's continued work. Lobi from Amsterdam.
Juan Sacchi
Where the streets have no name did make me burst out laughing god damn it
Karl Childers
that wendy painting interview does sound fascinating, i might check that out. there's certainly something to be said for separating wheat from chaff but when someone displays such poor judgement in throwing around flimsy accusations and credulously repeating bunk it makes me have to question everything else they say too & then i can't trust anything they say without verifying it from other sources, at which point why bother with the crankish source in the first place
JNG
It didn't go anywhere bc the narrative, which I don't believe, is he "only" trafficked in teenage girls (which is horrific enough, but doesn't hit people like little kids and/or little boys), and they killed him pretty quickly. Which left a ton of dead ends that he never got to illuminate in court. Somehow he ran the biggest pedophile network on earth with no customers, which of course is bullshit but we can't prove it. All we have is a dead guy and a black book. The Belgian establishment has had great luck convincing its people that Dutroux was a "lone nut" but the investigation still went on a lot longer and gave them a harder time. They had all those 'X witnesses.' The American establishment nipped that shit right in the bud. All your average person can do is go "huh, that's weird."
aerides
I've never understood the appeal of SJ. I tried a few episodes and can't get through it at all. Just innuendo like you say, and if you know anything about some of their topics, you really see the holes in it all. PTC had some good episodes. Ive listened to a handful. Dude does seem like he's a crank, the Beatles and McGowan stuff is silly for example. But he once let Wendy Painting talk for like 12 hours straight and it was like taking a fascinating trip inside her mind, I learned so much. His episodes on Walter Breen are also good, also the ones on crusades and early secret societies and their lore. He did a long 15 part series about United Fruit that I've just started. His voice is annoying, altered I think, and he's definitely paranoid and credulous about some things but I think there's plenty in PTK catalog worth listening to. (I ignore the personal accusations, don't care about that at all.)
Faroose
Jimmy Falun Gong and the Subliminal Jihad guys got super mad at MJ for not being schizophrenic enough
Darren R Young
Jesus Felix
Ashley Naftule
Finally listening to the episode and the ambient vape noise is so goddamn funny
Dogface Reilly
Thank you. With your permission, I will open this question up to the hoi polloi/huddled masses/peanut gallery.
SkinnyTonySoprano
What's this have to do with pussy?
Michael S. Judge
Dog there is nobody less equipped to answer this than I am. The first time I joined a forum was in 2009
Oneyedjax
Fuck off Phil Spector, Felix is coming in hard with the Wall of Sound, 2024.
Dogface Reilly
Felix mentions that Epstein was exposed on Rotten.com Library in the early 2000's,but I'm not seeing anything at the Rotten Archive. Citation needed! https://gwern.net/doc/rotten.com/library/index.html
Michael S. Judge
I hate that band so fucking much and I'm so glad I got to associate them with Epstein, because Bono and Epstein 100% knew each other
Dino Zaccagna
Using U2 for that intro was hilarious.
Rick Copeland
I believe you mean "Darth VAPER"...
Kamran Husain
gonna tell my grandchildren about this specific podcast like people talk about sports playoff games
Maciek
Hahah, I dunno why that’s so funny but the image of him sitting in the depression sim cave 3000 and just his eyes turning red as there’s more nicotine in the air than oxygen, as a former joystick sim smoker aficionado, respect.
Ricardo DeLeon
Darth Vader in the background all episode was a little distracting ngl lol
Salt M. Bank
This must be the first podcast I’ve ever heard that was formatted in stereo. Nice work
Michael S. Judge
Felix also didn't turn his camera on for this, so it was just vape'n'voice for 2 hours
Ian P
Hello
Karl Childers
i'm barely on twitter so i missed that, but i did listen to SJ a couple of years ago for a bit until i realized that everything they say is just innuendo without ever staking out any concrete claims. if i am right about the DMs coming from SJ i intuited it on a vibes level just from seeing those two as trolls. as for PTK i've never heard a non-crank talk seriously about mcgowan so idk i never checked it out. sounds like PTK's not beating the crank allegations tho
Backofhouse4
On my walking route, a house that had a qanon flag replaced it with a tame 1776 flag.
Pear Is A Patsy
oh boy that “discourse” was fun, kinda sucked to see because I did enjoy PTK a lot as a resource and some SJ but like wasn’t fun to see them being aggro towards Death Corner.
Maciek
I think it cuz I was listening to it in my car for the first 15mins and it had some eq fuck my ear setting that made the gurgling so pronounced, when it’s just playing off the iphone it’s a non issue, can barely pick it up. Eitherway great ep, not a car listening one though or maybe my car just sucks. I dunno.
M
I dunno man I was laughing my fucking ass off hearing that throughout the episode. It was very charming
Maciek
I love Felix n all but this background of gurgling phlegm in my ears is fucking disgusting, 15 min in and it’s non stop.
Ashley Naftule
Vape mode Felix on the pod let’s gooooo
John Waaben
a Powerful anti-pedophile braintrust….
Luccia Moira
All my favorite people!!
The Real Spiro Agnew
Killer ep. Glad to see Felix on the pod
Rohmer Simpson
ok 90% of the vaping in this episode was added in post. come on. has to be.
CJ
We gotta get Felix into zyns or something. Still, bomb episode.
Clay
Felix, dog, 8 consecutive chain vape rips? Multiple times? What's going on big guy?
The Fine Art Revolution
I can only assume Felix was injured in a mossad hit, and now must reside inside an iron lung.
ardenwezenberg@hotmail.com
Synchronicities all around, thank you Michael.
Mark Murphy
I like to think Matt Christman is here in spirit.
Mark Murphy
Felix is Tony Soprano-breathing as though Brace is wearing a ballcap is a nice sit down restaurant
SkinnyTonySoprano
I wanna hang out with this crew.
Matt R
Please do not have Felix on the show again thank you!
Brian Levy
How much of Felix’s body has been replaced with e-juice?
Rohmer Simpson
I think a big reason why the intelligence/deep state blob, whatever you want to call it, is never far from these stories where powerful individuals get away with doing truly depraved shit for years on end, is that one of the functions of the intelligence apparatus is stress-testing (or means-testing) the outrage of the majority of us who exist outside those circles of power. I don't intuit that Ed Buck was as much of a hub as Epstein - many many more threads crisscrossing the cork board with Epstein. But he's a useful example nonetheless: when you do x to x number of x individuals for x number of years, x number of civil rights groups are needed to compel the state to bring charges, and your penalty is x years in prison, which you will serve at x facility.
Ian H
Ed Buck, one of the most harrowing stories of this type for sure. Major Democratic donor/power player in SF Bay area who was luring vulnerable Black young men and boys to live with him and then intentionally getting them hooked on meth till they achieved the cadaverously skinny look he was erotically fixated on, then most likely murdered them with laced drugs. *edit* Looked it up and it turns out he was LA-based, not SF
Brian
As a misophoniac I didn’t love the constant vape noise, but loved the episode anyway.
Medard
I just wanted to ask, what was the name of that pedo who was giving young boys meth whom Brace mentioned at 25:10? Ed Boch or something like that? Thanks in advance
NYCM&AHole
This rules
Kevin
What a great end to the week. Terrific episode, thanks!
Phil Hostak
He'll yeah, a '94 Lollapalloza lineup equivalent.
Adam
I like that Felix says vesteej but not vesteejal
Brendan Garcia
Liz brilliantly dodging revealing anything about her history. A master.
NYCM&AHole
Lol rotten.com. I remember that shit
Heath Iverson
The real psyop is Felix trying to drive an audiophile obsessive like MJ absolutely insane with that constant vaping!
Karl Childers
lol i feel like the pseudo-left paranoiac duo who DM'd michael about every podcast other than theirs being a psyop could easily be the Subliminal Jihad boys
David Johnson
"Felix Biederman Relaxing Vape Sounds (10 hours)"
David Johnson
Genuinely thought Felix's vape hits were a soundbed you'd laid over the audio.
Jake
All the stars are here!
demiurge lovato
totaled my car when i saw the lineup
Shivvy
Obvs we love Liz and Brace, do we have a, “the gang’s all here” instant classic???
Shivvy
Hooooollllllllly Shhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttttt 💨 💨 💨 Felix on the mic
Ian H
"9/11 invites you through a door. Epstein opens the door, shoves you through, slams it behind you and locks it" - Puck Beaverton
Ian H
Dude, between this Karol (Carroll?) fella they're mentioning and the rapper that Felix referenced on Chapo a while back, our namesakes are not covering themselves in glory right now.
Jerry Stahl
Inspirational
Ian P
😩👌🏼
George Quartz
HOLLA
cicada
All my friends are here!
Daniel Nash
Mighty
Ian H
Just about to start splitting wood, checked patreon, fuck yes
Jack Finor
This is one of the most powerful lineups i’ve ever seen, by god
Connor Moloney
MSJ you rat bastard, you gave NO indication you were cooking up something massive as this
Jack McCarty
WHAT
r b
Let's fuckinf go