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The New Western Frontier w/ Matt Farwell (@HuntClancy)
🕑 Added 2025-10-17 08:50:47 +0000 UTCWe are absolutely brimming with joy this week as we welcome back the indomitable journalist, researcher, and all around swell dude, Matt Farwell. Our day one homies will know that Matt was the very first guest we had on the show way back when we were just a wee baby podcast. And we need not tell most of you that Matt’s Substack is a must read for any respectable noided leftist. But what you might not know is that Mr. Hunt-For-Tom-Clancy is a native of Utah, which is the backdrop for our episode today.
Our entry point into this one is, of course, the Charlie Kirk murder at Utah Valley University. But don’t worry, this is not another Charlie Kirk assassination episode. Kirk’s killing is simply the first step on our path to discussing the larger geopolitical forces that have come together to reshape Utah and the broader American West in the image of the Military Industrial Surveillance Technology Complex. What was once the frontier for American genocidal expansion Westward has become home to the next frontier for the new Data Center Imperialism—the information frontier.
We start out by hearing from Matt about his on-the-ground experience in Orem, Utah in the aftermath of Kirk’s murder, and his observations of the eerily ubiquitous presence of the national security state around the otherwise unknown Utah Valley University. And wouldn’t you know that right now the national security state, just like the entire rest of the US economy, is going bananas for AI. So we zoom out to talk about data center imperialism and the deep roots of the surveillance state in the American West. We focus on the Utah Data Center in particular (thanks, Obama!). Finally, we set the stage for a part 2 of our excavation, wherein we will delve into the historical particularities - including the regions colonization by Mormons and other sects - that make the New Western Frontier prime for the picking by a new generation of billionaire barons and their doomsday preaching hired guns of the military industrial complex.
Enjoy!
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Comments
Robert Felter
yes, how eclectic to include a slowed down version of Our Mother the Mountain, Townes is a favorite of mine
Michael
Great episode fellas! Please do a part II. Matt Farwell/HFTC are top notch. That Snowden stuff adds another layer to a really confusing/terrifying “leak” 🤦🏻♂️Cheers
Shout Shout Let It All Out
The clip from Townes Van Zandt was *chef’s kiss 🙌🏻
Nigel L
Love the pod but not sure I learned anything at all from this episode except that this guy loves to hear himself talk.
Frank Geier
I found Matt fascinating but I would really caution him against glossing over the fact that Trump is engaging in a massive campaign of ethnic cleansing against extremely vulnerable migrant communities just because he happens to be prosecuting some thoroughly despicable people like Comey and Bolton, albeit for the wrong reasons.
