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/263/ The Useless Past (2) ft. Matt karp

🕑 Added 2022-05-10 06:03:00 +0000 UTC

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Aufhebunga Bunga

Really interesting, thanks

Hans Gutbrod

I really enjoyed this -- in terms of how to use the past, also with regards to statues, I do think one needs an ethical framework to sensibly discuss. I make this point in this article on Stalin's Museum in Georgia (Caucasus), if that is of interest to anyone http://bit.ly/Ethics-PolComm-Gori

Eli S

Good thought, but then it all leads back to the "Repetition Compulsion" episode. This is a kind of liberalism that cannot accept there are perverse effects of liberalism itself, so it's constantly trying to vomit up what it perceives as a non-liberal kernel stuck in its throat, then re-digest it in the form of repeated liberal revolutions against perceived ancien regimes (racism, whiteness, colonialism, men, whatever). On the other side, weirdly enough, you get the people who explicitly want to carry on a "Western civilization" frankly admitting that liberalism has perverse effects.

plechazunga

Stray thought: throughout the augties and the 2010s western anglo-led liberalism was "provincialized" by a variety of non-western and/or anti-colonial thinkers--from mainline wokesters within the west all the way to Dugin, for instance.--who argued that actually globalist liberalism/technocapitalism isn't a universal project; it's an anglo/western european "civilizational" project (almost in a spenglerian sense), and that it's irredeemably corrupt at the metaphysical level. i.e. racism is inherently a core component of the western/anglo project and worldview. The 1619 project is part of an effort to "re-universalize" liberalism, to digest the traumas inflicted by the provincializing critiques. Fundamentally this is incoherent and contradictory and evidence of a world-system in decline, scrambling to maintain coherence in the face of real ideological and geopolitical challenges from outside.