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State of the Galaxy 14:8 GrS [NON-SENSITIVE]

🕑 Added 2024-08-13 17:04:13 +0000 UTC
State of the Galaxy 14:8 GrS [NON-SENSITIVE]
State of the Galaxy 14:8 GrS [NON-SENSITIVE]

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FuschiaKnight

Actually, with regards to Clone numbers, where does that relate with regards to Padme's previously quoted figure of only two million clone troopers active in the galaxy?

syu

I really like this update, we can see all the Separatist gains compared to the start of Storm Door, although many regions are still hotly contested. The blob of red south of Coruscant made me smile. On the numbers, I wouldn't fuss so much over it. I just note down the ratio between clones/frontline combatants/support personnel. Since a true galactic scale war is not conducive to story telling. Also i have a stupid question. A star wars year is 10 month long or 12 months long? I remember reading somewhere that it's 10 months.

Rasmus

wrt to the number of men serving on the ships, it seems clear that the construction of the actual ships, and stuff like fuel, is the limiting factor far more than manpower. Like the US Air Force has 10,000 pilots, but that's not a real indication of the size of the US military.

Rasmus

"Military membership in any population is usually 1%-ish max of the total population." No? If you look at WW2, the conscription in any of the countries seriously engaged in total war far exceeded that. The German army had a total of 13.6M servicemen out of a population of 80 million in 1939. The war lasted six years and they didn't all serve at the same time, but still, definitely exceeding 10%. For the Red Army it was 34M out of a total population of about 200M, again well above 10%. Japan had a total of about 8 million out of a population of 73M. For the US, 16M out of 130M. Italy, 4M out of 43M. That actually exceeds the 8.7% listed in this post, nevermind that the probably more serious conscription of women in the Star Wars universe and the existence of "martial" races where probably nearly everyone is serving-- I'm sure like 90% of the Gamorrean population is fighting at any given time, for example-- would allow for higher mobilization rates. On the flipside, there's still neutral systems that aren't involved in the war at all, so the denominator would be somewhat lower than 100 quadrillion too. The numbers definitely seem reasonable for a total civil war though. The movies and to a lesser extent even the EU never really got the scale of galactic warfare right, mostly because it'd be utterly incomprehensible on screen. Like it's absurd that 1.2M clone troopers from Kamino would serve as anything other than a drop in the bucket in a galactic war, or that an Imperial fleet for a decisive battle would consist of like a dozen star destroyers.

Duke of Coffee

Palatine underestimate his plan when Mr. Rain threw the entire toolbox knowingly at it. 🀣

milky

There was a golden age of peace and prosperity. It ended in fire and blood. It was caused by corruption, exploitation and apathy.

FuschiaKnight

You’ve mentioned before that a lot of the militaries involved are essentially local forces; it could be that, diagetically, the figures listed in the passage include best guess numbers of various militias as well as the forces of the countless sectors present within both the Confederacy and the Republic that *haven’t* been federalized by any of the laws subordinating sector forces to federal forces.

elsicava

Unfortunately, everything about Star Wars sorts of fall apart once you start picking at the numbers. The base number for total galactic population was taken from one of the Essential guides, either Chronology or Atlas, but iirc it said the galaxy had over 100 quadrillion inhabitants. There's also the well-known claim that the Droid Army numbers in the quadrillion to quintillions... Using the 100 quadrillion figure, that would make my calcs here be around 8-9% of the total galactic population, but that includes all the support and auxiliary roles from medics to cooks to merchant marine and contracted companies etc. The actual fighting population is only around 2%. In any case, I'll lower the starting number down to a single quadrillion and see whether the numbers make more sense there.

Jacob

Excellent addition to the series, I think you did a good job with the numbers (legends was less then clear and disney is, well, disney, so I appreciate the difficulties involved). My guess for a galactic end state would be a 3 way balancing act between the jedi/new republic, empire, and CIS; with other, lesser polities (Hutts, Hapan, Chiss) spicing things up. Either way there is a ton of potential fodder for future conflicts and storytelling.

Bishop7053

Damn didn't realize just how close empress teta is to corusant. Shit is right next door

Notcreepycreeper

While I like the huge numbers, and the feeling of titanic scale they add to a galaxy wide conflict, the numbers feel a bit too big both based on the movies, and based on what your story so far indicates. The number of ships in the major conflicts of this story is tiny if compared to the military described here. A 1000 foot aircraft carrier has a crew of about 4000 ppl. So bad math would estimate a mile large ship to have a crew of like 16000 ppl, call it 20k to account for more complex needs. So the battle about to set up at 500 vs 600 ships, likely the most massive space battle so far, would be 2 million vs 2.4 million ppl. Even if we multiply those #s by 10, it’s 20 vs 24 million ppl - not even a rounding error compared to the numbers you just listed. Military membership in any population is usually 1%-ish max of the total population. Maybe up to like 5% during large scale war. If the thousands of settled worlds all had large populations, still might not make sense. At 10,000 worlds with 10 billion ppl per world, total galactic population would be 1 quadrillion. Maybe if the majority of worlds had a population like corescant, these numbers could be buffed to what you suggest. But what we know about the outer rim, and indeed most worlds other than corescant, places their population close to Earths or significantly less.

Jon.

They already exist iirc, mentioned last chapter

Eric

Honestly, I would imagine this would be a very different view of the war if this was a 3D representation instead of 2D

Armo

Hm. At 2.9 quadrillion servicemen, I’d expect there to be more than 30,000 warships or whatever it was in the whole CAF navy. Thanks for the overview!

Sean McClain

The confederacy goal is the break up the republic into separate and distinct polities, basically end the control of the galactic senate and it's administration government. (They will also probably accept just a peace deal and new cold war between the two rival superpowers) Likely the republic may survive but reduced to a far more dimished number of systems or split into a few successor republics and rest beign either independent worlds or smaller allied systems and micro empires. In this possible future I expect the confederacy to break apart without a common enemy to join them. The lack of cohesion of the confederacy beyind winning the war, makes me think they would rather breaking up the republic then a ceasefire/peace deal between two rival perpetually. And only accept that if they get too warry of war. I fully expect the Hutts to go from neutral to supporting the confederacy when they feel they can crack the republic and be one of the larger polities in the aftermath. Will be interesting if the jedi order also splinters with the republic or survives more or less intact much like the church survived the fall of the western roman empire.

Trailblazer

This feels like a swan song on a galactic scale, one final moment in history before everything violently implodes.

SkyGold

Utterly mind-boggling number of lives to contemplate - especially when they're all in the hands of such a small number of powerful people

Cesar gonzalez

I believe the council of neutral systems should be forming soon. I wonder how you gonna handle it.


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