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Chapter 71 (1/2)

🕑 Added 2024-08-25 18:34:33 +0000 UTC

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Amerdism

Ah sorry, my mistake, I would hardly call Rain nerfed, this is his, what, 3rd loss? 4th if you count the whole deal with Plo Koon, its kind of unrealistic to expect a character to always win. Is Honor btter than Rain though? Don't get me wrong, she easily countered him and understood his modus operandi, but she did know he was coming and had time to set up a trap, she forced him into a horrible position and at which point counetring him seems much easier. All said she had every advantage really so I'm not sure its fair to say she is a better tectician than him, though I can be fair and say there's a decent amount of bias on my part because I really don't like Honor in general, she's a character you love to hate and want to see fail for me.

elsicava

If I remember what I wrote correctly, he immediately pulled off a few manoeuvres that should have gotten him free from Honor's prepared encirclement, if it wasn't for Honor predicting all of them in advance and counter-manoeuvring every single one of them. You point out exactly what is written in the chapter; Honor KNOWS Rain's tricks. He TRIED to contest control OVER and OVER again, and Honor simply countered him every single time. It's not that Rain wasn't prepared--as some point out his fleet reacted immediately after extraction unlike Calli's which was stunlocked for a few minutes--simply that Honor outwitted him everytime he tried to contest control. I was incensed not because of you, but of @tibbish's statement in which apparently Rain was 'nerfed.' No he was not; if he was nerfed, he would have just sat there and took the fire, or worse, charged into Honor's fleet in desperation. He didn't. He used the 3D battlespace, used the Givin to their maximum efficiency, brought Diedrich Greyshade's BD to counterattack and cover his attempted extraction. The strategic situation couldn't be helped; he had no other choice but to rush straight into the ambush in order to save his allies. The tactical situation, on the other hand; it's simply the first time he faced an enemy admiral who was able to get inside his mind, dissect his modus operandi, and tear him apart. Simply put, its the first time he fought an opponent who was better tactician than him.

Amerdism

Sorry, I wasn't really clear, I was refering to all the times he was outmaneuvered previously mainly, and meant less that he prepared a counter before hand and more that he should have a few strategies he came up with before the operation even began to at least try to contest an enemy that forces him into a bad position like Honor did, I am aware he rushed to the battle knowing he was likely being led into a trap, I'm just a bit suprised he had no strategies he had prepared long ago to try to contest control of the battle space in the way Honor mentions its the big part of how Rain wins so much so I figured he may have had a few back up plans to try is all to get a more favourable outcome even if he didn't win.

elsicava

I'm about to have a stroke. Did you read the chapter? He PURPOSEFULLY DID NOT PREPARE, because if he did, he WOULD NOT HAVE MADE IT IN TIME. He KNEW the POSSIBILITY of being ambushed was there, and he CHOSE to risk that possibility because if he took the precaution, he would have been TOO LATE TO JOIN THE BATTLE. If he was too late to join the battle, the Home Fleet would have realised he wasn't coming, because they could CALCULATE THE TIME HE WOULD ARRIVE, and instead turned to join the Open Circle Fleet, DESTROYING CALLI TRILM'S FLEET.

tibbish

Yeah he feels nerfed again, the fight was too over engineered for max drama IMO. Like he totally would've known that Plo Koon would've warned the others he was coming at a minimum and started preparing at a least a bit

Amerdism

I'm suprised Rain has no strategies to counter the tactics his enemies use to counter him at this point.

Antic Master

Man, I do love this space battle. It sort of reminds me of Borodino: no clever strategies or tactics, just raw adrenaline and a full speed clash. It really does feel like they’re fighting for their lives here, fuelled by hatred and desperation.

Orbnet

This chapter was awosme!

FuschiaKnight

It's more that their objective is to escape, rather than stick around to potentially be trapped again, I think. The stated objective of Starlance is to extract Dua Ningo's fleet from the Core. Rescuing the 28th is essentially a side objective for everyone except for their comrades in arms in the 19th.

Mad Max

I hels on from reading the chapter last week hoping that I could binge without a cliffhanger. Past me was an fool.

NostalgicTime

Huh, was duo ningo's and rendili' fleet too damaged/fatigued to help bonteri as well?

LurkerFrontCenter

I feel like someone's dying next chap

elsicava

They did consider. Its SOP to always assume there might be an ambush at the other end of the jump--I dedicated like five paragraphs to explain this. Rain and co. knew there was every possibility of an ambush, but like he said, they took a calculated risk to forego the usual precautions meant to prevent being ambushed in the first place. Why? Because the usual precautions would cost precious time, time in which the 19th may not have. And like the Givin said, their calculations paid off. Yes, they were ambushed, but also yes, they pinned down 300 warships of the Home Fleet from joining the OCF and utterly mogging the 19th Mobile.

Deliver roo

Like others I’m a bit surprised that Rain didn’t even consider the possibility of a trap. Tough luck too given that the Republic seems to have blocked only his fleet while the others escaped with almost double his ships. Also I suppose, should he manage to escape, his alliance with Plo Koon and maybe Gallia is already finished.

Jan Ullrich

It is nice to see rain is getting his nose bloody, not many stories can boast that. Now he only has to commit some war crimes in the name of necessity, and we have our self a great grimdark story, with a protagonist drenched in blood and oil, hands bloody, face bloody, just great.

Jan Ullrich

Great chapter

Duke of Coffee

Thus Rain and Calli united once more, fighting to survive the Republic fleets and make it home.

Ника Ви

Thanks for the chapter!

Kana

I am not surprised Rain didn't see it coming, but i am surprised at how easily he is being out manouvred. Really shows how hr has had the opportunity to prepare the battlefield for every win. Nice writing

Marcin

Thers a sweet minefield with Honors name on it...

Asharzal

If we are to leave the Republic, we will leave together. What an awesome line to finish this chapter. Well let's hope that Calli can bail Rain out of this mess, those two still need to make lots of children after all.

Ryan

Keep up the amazing work! I have to stop myself from gushing over every single chapter in the comments. The story to battle and battle to story writing in this arc is the best overall writing I've ever seen. The way Rain and Cali go about their battles and all to this chapter and the next show how the characters evolved and change. I think this is one of my favorite books/stories I've ever read. Thank you.

Peter

I completely agree. It really shows Rain’s character growth compared to the Onderon arc

Volker

Goosebumps

Mrsean22

Well Rain is in trouble. Kinda surprised he didn't have a plan or didn't expect the Republic to know he was coming when he didn't exactly hide it. Rain sorta just hoped this would work out. Guess this is just another example that Rain isn't invincible but already knew this. So basically all up to Cali to save Rain. At least the strategic objective was completed with Dua Ningo back in CIS space with the new ships. New ships are gonna be made fast as possible I imagine.

Michael K

Narratively, I think the unanimous declaration at the end is kind of the thesis of this arc. Calli is trusting Rain to come to her side, and it's now repaying Rain's trust. That when push comes to shove, their faction all band together and support each other, at contrast to the lies and infighting of both the Republic and Dooku aligned CIS factions. I think it's far more satisfying for the battles themselves to tie together the themes the story is telling, as opposed to "and our protagonist foresaw things they couldn't have known because they were super smart and just won all the winning... Again." It also ties into the character growth for Rain, who's more and more treating his allies as people as opposed to chess pieces to manipulate.

William M.

So the Republic finally figured out what happened at Columex after Issard's failure to get any information on it earlier. Good for them I suppose. I'm a little bit confused over how Rain and other organic officers seemed completely unaffected by the interdiction mines you ended the last chapter on. I remember that Cali was completely incapacitated for a time when the same happened to her at Commenor. It's good to see that their mission of extracting Dua Ningo is nearly completed. Manaan isn't quite in Separatist space, but it's definitely in the right direction.

Trailblazer

It's finally here. One last battle, one last hurrah for the Perlemian Coalition, for Rain, for Calli and for the Galaxy. Honor might think she will finally slay the Hydra, but its final head had already delivered the final, killing blow.

John Doe

I dont think this is a lose for Rain. If anything, the mobile fleets have succeeded in their objectives. This may become a tactical lost but in the wider scale they have done everything they've come to do and more. Plus, aint no way that Calli isnt gonna save Rain. It's a phyrric victory/close defeat depending on how the sides play it to their media. Either case, as long as they make it back alive then it's still a victory.

Tsorov

Exactly, losing is always depending of the definiton of the win conditons. The win conitions are to get the Bulwarks to escape into Seperatist starsystems. That he was able to accomplish. How phyrric this victory is going to be is another question entirely

Tank45

I’d hardly call it a loss when the overall objective of the operation was a success.

Duke of Coffee

Yaaaaaaaaa thanks, makes me sad that Rain is going to lose because plot demands it.... since the odds are stacked against him...

elsicava

Ok, two cliffhangers in a row kinda suck--ill continue this tomorrow, so keep an eye out for a notification.

twentytoo

here we go!


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