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Chapter 80

🕑 Added 2024-11-03 13:33:26 +0000 UTC

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Voligne

I am assuming that eventually Rain and Dooku are going to fight. What needs to happen in this story is that Rain and Dooku need to have a dialogue wherein Rain deconstructs Dooku's character and his fall to the Dark Side. Dooku sacrificed everything to Sidious. Seeing the corruption and greed at the center of the Galaxy he becamed disillusioned with the Republic. Seeing the Jedi being unable or unwilling to act to stop it. Dooku became disillusioned with the Jedi. Somewhere around this time he met Darth Sidious who told him what needed to be done, that the galaxy needed to be torn down and built back up, and offered to Dooku his (Sidious) dream of Empire. Where all the wrongs can be righted and order can be restored to the Galaxy. Dooku killed Yaddle to keep this secret. Becoming a sith apprentice. And thus he was commanded to create the Confederacy of Independent Systems. But it was never his, and he never treated it as if it was his. Doing Sidious bidding all the while to keep it a threat but never actually let it off the leash, to take the fight to the Republic because the CIS wanted independence from the Republic. It never cared to overthrow or rule on its own. He had his empire, from which he could right the wrongs, at least in one part of the galaxy. But he threw it away, only for Severance Tann to pick it up and make it her own. He threw Assaj Ventress away, and Sevrance picked her up too. And now he is stuck in the northern territories with a rapidly dwindling list of friends and allies. All the while wondering when Sidious will finally decide to take his aging elderly apprentice behind the space barn. When Sidious will find a new model to trade up to. And just like every sith lord before him, he sacrificed everything. He sacrificed his principles, his friends, his authority and position, his dreams and aspirations, his students, his dignity, all for power. In the hopes that when he has what he want he can recover all of that. And yet, here he is. All his power and rage and ability with the force and his aspirations and dreams of a better tomorrow. All it will ever amount to now is hot air, noise, and a corpse on the floor. He has come so far, and yet never has he been further from the very thing that set him on this path in the first place. EDIT: There was a scene in the KOTOR games where you get to talk to sith apprentices on Korriban. There was a girl who was rescued from slavery but she had to leave her sister behind, and she became a Dark Side apprentice to gain power with the force so she could go back to free her sister, and to free all the slaves. To use the dark side to destroy slavery. But the Sith are a pit of vipers and crabs. Every day she is there with the power she needs to accomplish her goals dangled in front of her. Every day her dream of destroying slavery and freeing slaves grows farther and farther away. Power for the sake of power, never to be used to actually *do* anything. Until one day she meets someone stronger than her, and all her dreams, her goals, her ambitions becomes nothing but dust on the wind. Heat, noise, and another corpse on the academy valley floor.

Empty Shelf

I imagine they're simply stretched thin. The fact that a Padawan is in this position would indicate that everyone senior has already been deployed to the front lines to hold off the attack. And if they've been taking heavy casualties, they may be digging deep into their ranks to draft replacement officers with enough seniority.

Dragontaylor

Wouldn’t really matter? The Death Star would still take 2 decades to make. Handful of years if they barebones rush order it. They don’t have that long, even if they’d started at the beginning of the war

Dragontaylor

Sounds like incompetence on her part or her/her people’s role so large there so much going on they don’t have enough people cover shifts while keeping constant coverage of all of it. A lot did suddenly happen multiple planets.

SureRuseUser

I don't fully understand why Scout's crew is so overworked, do they not have different work shifts onboard their ships in Star Wars? Scout can make some sense being overworked as the Leader but otherwise it appears off to me. Edit Suggestion: “Then what will you have us, Commander?” “Then what will you have us do, Commander?”

Ordic

Pretty much this + other imported slaves were used in the building of it as well such as wookies since it was a very heavily comartmentalized project aka. ppl did not know they were building a component for the death star even after its reveal since they were being built all across the galaxy

Voligne

My understanding was they had the designs for the deathstar, and Dooku was going to hand them over to Sidious. The first one was built in orbit of Geonosis, but it was the Empire that built it using the Geonosians as slave labor before extermination whoever was left when it was finished.

Ника Ви

Thanks for the chapter!

PearsMan

Thank you I’ll look into it

Hawk

Don't worry, we still have Tann and you know that with how hardcore military she is that booty has got to be tight.

elsicava

also good point. i'll fix that

windoverwaves

However, they still shouldn't be waiting around three hours just staring at the holo. Surely in between that time someone should've ordered engineer squads to gun 1?

elsicava

ngl that slipped my mind. you're right about that.

BigBillyWilly

Ah I see thank you. I'm not too familiar with the lore beyond the films.

nugitoBambino

@Tsorov, I don't think that theory gained a lot of traction. Idk with Disney throwing out the old Star Wars legends, but traditionally, Thrawn was the individual trying to prep the galaxy for war with the Vong, and he's on record in his original trilogy calling the Death Star a huge waste of resources. I could be wrong, it's been years since I read the OG trilogy, but my take was that Palps made the Death Star as a flex rather than for any tactical purpose.

nugitoBambino

@Tsorov is that not rain's mission right now? to go to the planet in Count Dooku's territory to get an update so the ship can fire more quickly?

nugitoBambino

the projectile moving faster than light and reaching the target in 3 hours makes sense, but wouldn't it still take ~5 hours (the time it took to find the station in the first place) to get confirmation on the target's destruction? Or is this just them noticing that the gravity intercessor field is gone, which occurs faster than light last well?

Akel

Things keep getting worse for everyone. Love it.

Antic Master

Man, the amount of knowledge you have on both Star Wars and irl to write out an immersive scene like this that makes sense must be immense. Sidenote, I assume that Conqueress doesn’t have an energy-cannon/ion-cannon configuration like EaW’s Aggressor?

Bishop7053

Damn, best blue waifu is gone. Rip blue booty

Bishop7053

And a first shot that can wipe a small fleet. 31 ships down with one shot.

Notcreepycreeper

yeah, it becomes almost funny if you stop for a second to think about it. Shot goes off over a couple minutes, you spend a few more minutes staring at this insanely powerful energy bolt going into the distance...and keep staring......and staring......its been an hour, still staring.........................

Ordic

I think at this point the cis still has the skeleton of it so it probably wont take off without at least the barebones prototype like it did with one as a base in otl (it was said it was stolen from over geonosis btw)

Empty Shelf

Good stuff. My only criticism is that they apparently waited the entire 3 hours for the projectile to reach it's target before checking the weapon. It's suitably dramatic, but it doesn't make much sense.

Mad Max

Do we have a headcount of how many of the old council have cacked it? Ki adi's been Grievous'd, oppo rancis has been mass-driver'd, Ayla Secura has been pounded into the dirt. Anyone else I'm missing?

Marcin

Boom...

BigBillyWilly

I'm wondering if the news of this Confederate super weapon reaching Coruscant will prompt an early launch into the Death Star program? It's the equivalent of, "Our enemy has nukes, we need bigger nukes!" Great chapter by the way, it kind of shows how messed up the Jedis involvement with this war is. Scout's a teenager and she's already making decisions that potentially cost thousands of lives. I imagine if the Order comes out this war still alive, there's tragically going to be more than a few thousand yard stares from this generation of Padawans. RIP Secura.

KnightofTempest

I know they've thrown in with Rain, but every time the Techno Union gets mentioned, I can't help but remember the Techno Union Memes with DJ Wat Tambor. . .

Duke of Coffee

Horn is brutal, throwing everything to gain a foothold. Rain meanwhile is doing his best to sync up with his new Droid crew... it hurts to see no more Tuff...

D3ad0s

Oh, My bad. it has been a while since the Commoner chapter. Forgot that the shells are supposed to be FTL. Also, that is one hell of a terrifying weapon. If it can hit you before you register that there is an enemy fleet in the system. It just gives you a permanent first move advantage. In short: Damn.

elsicava

I assumed sensor is LIDAR (so lightspeed), some other Star Wars FTL scanner, or something close to it. Hailhound mentioned it would take ~5.5 lighthours to traverse 6b km, that's where the 10hour wait for sensor contact comes from (5 hours to reach target and 5 hours to return to sender)

Jan Ullrich

The key point I was looking at was, that sensors hadn’t registered a launch before impact. That doesn’t require the weapons to be ftl just faster than sensor data

Meat

I forget if was mentioned but what's the normal engagement range for ships? 300k kilometers? 3 million?

elsicava

Well, nearly correct. The projectile *is* FTL *by* folding space around it. Inside that folded space, the projectile is sublight. But since everyone is looking at the folded space from the *outside*, the whole 'package' so to speak is FTL. It's when the 'package' contacts another physical body, the warp space 'breaks' and the projectile inside impacts the target at sublight speeds (around 99.9% lightspeed). So the projectile isn't *actually* FTL (because its sublight inside the warped space), but its *practically* FTL (since the warped space is shortens the distance). It's the same principle as the real life Alcubierre Drive if you want to read up on it Hope that makes sense.

Meat

It was mentioned previously that the projectile itself isn't actually at ftl velocities and is just folding space around it to reach the target faster. It's still going at horrific sublight speeds though

elsicava

The shell is FTL. That's the point of the weapon, and it's been explained in the Commenor chapter among others. Conqueress' waveguns are Alcubierre Drives, and should they fire at full power, the KKV will be contained in a relativistic warp bubble that is *apparently* (in the actual sense of the word) FTL. Notice that the chapter states it took roughly 10 hours to find a contact? Assuming LIDAR or some other form of lightspeed scanning, it would take 5~ hours to reach contact and 5~ to return to sender. That's where the 10 hours come from. Lastly, Rain noted the backwash from the KKV was reddish in colour. That's the effect of redshift. (objects approaching at lightspeed will appear blue due to blueshift, and redshift is the opposite) The KKV taking 3 hours to reach target was a conscious decision

D3ad0s

Alright. A small nitpick. 3 Hours of waiting until the shell impacts? Seemed a bit suspect. So I did some back of a napkin calculus, and according to it, it would take about 5 and a half hours to impact at light speed (or, close to it). So you have a skyscraper made of solid, extra-dense metal traveling at FTL. Space fantasy and all that, yes, I get it. But can you please make it at least 6 hours instead? So it would be close to the FTL without breaking it? Also interested in the new crew dynamic and who is the new Super Tactical droid? What happened to Tuff, and was at least some of him salvageable? Also, Conqueress is a damn good name for his new ship in my opinion. And I can’t stop grinning when I imagine all the Teasing that Calli will inflict upon him when they reunite. After all, he named a ship in her honor! Even if he will never admit it to her face (maybe).

elsicava

I considered the whole post-Rendili interlude chapters the low tension part of the story (after the climax and blowout at Rendili), and Rain being reintroduced marks the restart of the rising tension cycle. As for filler (what you described on the original comment is filler) it will be interspersed throughout his POVs, so there aren't any blatantly filler chapters. I think this is roughly how the story has operated since the start, I try to avoid dumping all the exposition in a single chapter As for the person who named Antecedent, it was is one of the Sullust battle chapters. Antecedent was introduced when Ambigene glassed Eriadu, and the person commented below the chapter on it as well.

PearsMan

Oh dam! Which chp has comments for them? Also I may hv not explained it well: Are you going to keep the tension high since we’re moving from mission to mission or we allowed a breather to reflect n all? Because keeping tension high for a long while dosent usually last. This isn’t meant to be critical more me not understand your vision n not being u and just sharing my opinion. I’m enjoying the story regardless.

elsicava

Same age as Ahsoka, and you can't say Ahsoka didn't have massive responsibilities either in TCW. Such is the life of a Jedi Padawan at war. Anyway, that's why Scout has a seasoned officer with her at all times. They're both around the same rank (Jedi Commander and Lt. Commander) but he defers to her because she's Jedi. If she does something dumb, however, he's in his rights to veto it.

Dav

Yeah why didn't he just copy Tuff?

Dav

Why does Scout have such big responsibility? I thought she was very young?

SuperbOwl67

Wow! That whole process of firing the Conqueress’s main battery reminded me of the Galaxy Gun. Will there be a map soon show the progress of Ambigene and the new split in the CIS?

Tsorov

There is the Theorie that it was made to counter the Vongs ability terraform Planets into shipyards. Palpatine was made aware and saw that the Republic couldn't withstand an invasion and built the empire to counter the Vong. How effective the empire would have been is a different question, and I still can't see how a human superiority movement would have helped with that, so either way Palps had to die

Tsorov

Eight shots that can't be used in quick sucsession. The ammo could be carried by frighters, the problem is the projectile damages the "barrel" and so it can't be used that often. But ship could be made to take out big threads, like, say, a Jedi General or another Superweapon like the Malavolence. What I think is going to happen are two things. First: The seppies trie to improve on the design, making fiering it more efficient. The second is that there will be a seperate long term project that tries to invent shields capable of blocking shots from this weapon. Maybe MonCalamarie shields are gonna be developed way earlier, or they have to develop far better sensors to detect ships like the Conqueress sniping from out oflthe system

elsicava

A RR reader named the ship.

Straven

Wow that is one hell of a weapon, especially since they succeeded in creating an actual working prototype so quickly.

Hailhound

Related to the long hang time: is the projectile superluminal? At that distance it would take light 5.5 hours to get there, but it made it in 3. I know there’s space time bending shenanigans in the barrel so I guess it makes sense?

Voligne

The Death Star wasn't a battle station, it was a weapon of terror and always was. It's much more dramatic for a giant battle moon to show up and shatter a planet with a single laser blast, leaving naught but debris in its wake.

M0och

Completely agree. As you say, at least Plo Koon and Shaak Ti yet survive.

Jan Ullrich

Great chapter as always, just some advice on the tactics involved with such scenarios (long range space combat, where one has to wait for hours) the best analog we have is probably submarine warfare. So shout and scoot tactics might be a good approach. Considering it’s completely new approach to warfare in Star Wars it might take a while (battle and lives) to develop such tactics

Jarrik32

To be honest the Death Star was always an absurdity. A single Star destroyer was always capable of scouring an entire planet mostly clear of life within hours and glassing the surface entirely if needed and time was no object. What made it 'special' was that like the killing curse it was instantaneous and utterly unstoppable. What else could inspire such fear than something you cannot endure, only run from? It was a tool of pure terror. It never held any real military value.

Mrsean22

Man the Anakin vs Ambigene campaign is not looking good for the Republic. Are losing more ground but are keeping the damage to a minimum. Like Ambigene is running out of steam so the campaign might be more a CIS win but can't tell right now. Especially if Anakin and Scout can stop the CIS from moving once they group up. Rain with a new crew. Little sad to think about but hey it's war. Though got a lot of important people on his big ship. More to test the ship but it's important.....wait how much damage did this one shot just do? Though it does have a eight shot limit with them using one so seven shots left. If nothing else the thought of Rain with a ship like this will make people remember why they were afraid of Rain.

Viv15

It's effect on warships probably won't be as dramatic, with a three hour hangtime on that shot ships only need to engage in minor unpredictable maneuvers to dodge cross-system shots like that. Really this is the doom of stationary targets like battle stations, interdiction arrays (as Rain demonstrated), and -critically- planets. The CAF have already demonstrated a willingness to glass planets from orbit. They just demonstrated the ability to do so from *across a star system, beyond sensor range.* Anyone who doesn't want to risk loosing population centers and valuable naval infrastructure to this new weapon will need to radically rethink their naval doctrine.

Tsorov

Nice seeing the Seperatists new superweapon in practice. But won't the Republic be warned that the Seperatists have a new weapon if stations start to randomly disappear in goant explosions? And sad that Aayla Secura died already, I know she died in Order 66, but I like some Jedi more than others, and their deaths are always sad. At least Plo Koon and Shaak Ti are still alive

Man-O'-War

Wait is Augur based off an HK model?

PearsMan

Antecedent, Hammer of the Rim. Such a badassname and a reminder of how they existed first damn. I couldn’t find it via a quick search. Did u think of it? Rip to Aalyaa. Also damn no “I put the old tactical droid into the new one since we already in sync and I taught it stuff? Earlier chapters there was a buildup and everything slowly coming together, see stuff happen in the background. It seems now for Rain it’s just jumping from one mission to the next. But will we be getting the down time, thought process on his old crew gone and having a new crew less in sync and being more alone, and why his robot maid is such a jack of all trades?

Jose

Damn, so in this universe the Death Star would be considered both obsolete and a giant waste of resources. Since a capital ship can destroy a world just as easily, this new (It needs a scary name!) weapon has far better range than the death star, and it doesn't require nearly as many resources or logistics to build. This is going to force the Republic to spread out their fleets as concentrating too many forces leaves them vulnerable to this weapon, which is going to check the republic's number advantages.

Armo

Poor Scout. She’s trying really hard, but Ambigene is giving her no quarter. I wonder how many capital ships a KKV can obliterate just from collateral. Is this a sequel era hyperspace jump collision kind of situation? Or did they only hit the nexus and bypassed the others? Imagine if Rain’s going to make it into the Serenno Government territory, only to have to take over command of the Serenno government’s defence as the entire Republic Military crushes down on them.

syu

Damn, looks like the tomb maker is living up to his name. Both sides are depleted and this is probably the last offensive before a decisive win. On the other side if the galaxy, we have the galaxy's first field firing of a new superweapon. Can't wait to see it used on a major battlefield and the chaos it will no doubt sow.

Trailblazer

​Conqueress. ​A fine name for a fine lady. And poor Scout, her first test as a CO is salvaging a losing campaign in possibly the most brutal front of the war.


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