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Chapter 85 (Updated)

🕑 Added 2024-12-08 18:16:17 +0000 UTC

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Jarris

I don't see how Rain thought it was a good trade to save one Jedi and a sacked planet compared to destroying a super weapon and Grievous. All because he didn't have the patience to wait Feels like the plot didn't want to take Grievous out of the story so soon

William M.

The minimum speed to achieve nuclear fusion was also lowered from 90% to 70%, but really that's a minor thing.

Straven

Yeah just literally found it by accident, wasn't aware it was updated but its a nice touch.

Allan Chang

Great update. To those who are looking for the update, search "On every sensor display, it was evident General Grievous’s fleet had been reduced to a pale shadow of its former might, a battered remnant of warships struggling to reorganize amid the chaos. " Everything after is new.

Antic Master

I do love this far more than the original, Grievous outsmarting Rain and Rain actually making parlay with Unduli rather than just waving his hand and demanding they surrender. Much less abrupt.

Michael K

I really like the updated chapter as well. Overall there's more proactive actions taken by everyone, and there's more of a sense of everyone attempting to make the best decisions from their limited information from their POV as opposed to things just happening for reasons. I like the callback to Barriss to add that personal element to the character interactions. While the overall result is the "same" the narrative is more engaging and feels tighter.

Von Harley

Greatly appreciated the updated chapter! Definitely feels a whole lot better 👍

Docnox

Practically rewrote the whole chap

Basil Harpham

Update aye, what's changed?

Hawk

"I meant over 90% the speed of light, at least." Oh, I know this one. xkcd what if? Relativistic Baseball.

OccasionalNewb

Well, because when it hits a target it subliminates the target via nuclear reaction into plasma buckshot, which then seems to do most of the damage wouldn't that basically make it one

Jan Ullrich

Did the republic not have time to scramble lacs themselves or were those destroyed in the earlier engagements

Sekander

Maybe some fixing of the numbers is in order. A relativistic KKV (physically traveling at a significant fraction of the speed of light) at 10% lightspeed massing 1t would already equal about 100Mt of TNT or about twice the strength of the tsar bomba, the biggest nuke ever tested. At 99% lightspeed a slug of 550t (4m ball of tungsten) would have the same energy as the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs… Maybe have the KKV fire projectiles that apparently travel faster that the speed of light (due to space warping and such) but do not physically do so and only reach a few percent of light speed (maybe up to 40%) as everything beyond that starts to become quite insane. At 40% lightspeed a tungsten slug would need to be a 16m wide sphere to kill all dinosaurs. At 5% the same slug would still have about a thousand times the energy of the whole worlds arsenal of nukes combined. At 0.1% still about 8 times more energy than the biggest nuke ever tested. I believe this range of power would be enough for most scenarios. In my opinion this would make the power of the weapon less op but keep the most important (story wise) elements: Shots reach targets faster than light (big tactical advantage!!!) and will still pretty much destroy everything they hit. Together with the drawbacks mentioned above (basically destroys itself and line of sight) and maybe a few more like: 1. Due to the warped space around the slug, shooting the weapon has similar requirements to entering hyperspace. For example shooting into or out of gravity wells could hinder weapon accuracy (as more complex calculations are needed) 2. anything bigger than a coin in the physical path of the KKV would lead to a premature explosion, possible still dealing a big amount of damage but a screen of starfighters or mines a few thousand klicks in front of your fleet would protect you from the first one or two shots. (After that as everything is vaporized not so much anymore) 3. Long (and maybe obvious) charge time could then give someone capable still the opertunity to try and close the distance and attack as the superweapon is basically useless in close combat. (Bait Rain in firing and then ambushing him while his superweapon charges his second shot) 4. As mentioned in this chapter, charging the shot is quite noticable, at least as long as one is close enough as otherwise the speed of light would limit whether or not one could sense the charging of the weapon before the apparent faster than light shot hits you. This could still make for a situational but not universal op weapon.

Sekander

I would suggest a small change with regards to the explanation of why the first shot didnt vaporize the Devestation. Technically KKVs only need a few km/s or miles/s for them to essentially become bombs (about 0.002% of light speed) unleashing all their energy on impact. So maybe just say their KKV was only traveling at maybe 0.5 or 1% lightspeed. Just throw in that was the „minimum power setting for the fastest possible firing of the weapon“ or something on that line. That would still cause a big explosion, but not a enable-fusion-of-atoms kind of planet killer like a KKV of over 50% lightspeed would do and more a regular explosion in the range of a medium sized nuke. Which would do a lot of damage, but not enough to completely take out a 8k long super dreadnought.

Ника Ви

Thanks for the chapter!

Akel

I feel like Rain was in a lose/lose situation. The ship's capablities can't remain secret for to long considering all the spy's/force users in play, so he might as well use it. But is morals led him to not sacrifice republic lives for a instant kill, that still wouldn't have killed Grevious because the man is a cyborg cockroach. It shows Rain's back isn't against a wall even now because he makes half baked decisions based on emotion instead of the cold calculs of war.

Straven

That gun has its own issues, only so many shots av per ship and you clearly have to have a very clear line of sight...unless you don't mind allies eating the shot thus killing the actual kill shot plus debris being in the way...many ways to 'gut' that round if worked in an active battle zone. Any real tactician will find ways to cripple that weapon, plus once close range is even slightly engaged its screwed. Still loving the new touch of it being at full charge. And yes I suck at explaining things. Loved the chapter.

Straven

Esp one that as written had already suffered such an exp already....and is still recovering from it.

Straven

Hey Mirr I just want to say I LOVE what you did with that 'gun' in regards to being fully charged! God that bit of info I never though of makes that thing truly a 'ultimate weapon'. God...one hit and the target and anything nearby is likely destroyed.....that's just beaut of a work and idea and I personally LOVE it. Thank you for another great read. Honestly I keep on drooling at the thought of a tv series or something like it based off your story....if anyone had the balls to actually properly manage it and pay for it, god that would be one hell of a series!

Lino

A city planet seems worth it tbh.

Lino

Casaba Howitzers are basically plasma weapons powered by nukes. Eg not too different from turbolasers. This is „just“ a super powered railgun.

Duke of Coffee

(After all, I’ve always been quite a lucky guy. I’m sure things will work out. They always have.) That is a flag, Battle Hydra. 😜 Anyway maybe Jedi alliance get? I'm surprised Grievous survived, must be plot armour that he has to die to General Kenobi; "Why, hello there."

Isabel

I think you’re on the right track with the ammo being severely limited, having to work around that limitation will let rain shine as the great tactician he is. I do like superweapons, but I hope you’ll find a way for rain to be more strategic as opposed to big gun make boom. Thanks for the chapter!

IAmTheGuardsman

No, it just accelerates a slug really, really fast

SlanneshSoldier69

I mean I could see previous play ball if he learned his world was really destroyed because of his "master" and the sith. Letting him target him and Jedi not aligned with separatist cause/coup should be a no brained. He would still need to be put down though.

Trailblazer

Nothing a future truce and/or alliance with the Jedi couldn't fix. Plus, the war is far from over. Grievous still has to content with the Expeditionary Fleet and Rain could always study him as well.

Mrsean22

Hmmm if nothing else Rain won the Battle but Grievous escaped. Though Grievous fleet is hurt pretty badly and the Devastations cannon is damaged so can't use the super weapon. Though Rain only has five shots left of his super weapon. So technically Rain did good but Grievous can now plan for Rain for future battles. Hopefully Rain can make use of Luminara and her fleet now in his custody.

OccasionalNewb

So, wait, Conqueress has a gravity-accelerated Casaba Howitzer?

Mad Max

At the cost of letting a theatre commander, an expert in assymetric warfare, flee with his most significant asset still allowed to be returned to play, and ceding Intel about a strategic asset, not to mention Initiative, to the same assymetric warfare expert. This was a bad trade. Don't get me wrong. This was a moral victory. But a defeat on the strategic level.

Kriegsdude

Maybe you could implement more mechanical failures into the guns? The whole point of his missions was to get the ability to fix that issue so it's understandable if after every shot it felt like the ship might tear itself apart, so he has to balance the change the gun might explode against firing it to determine the risk.

Trailblazer

Grevious' forces halved, potential allied planet and its population saved, potential alliance forged, all at the cost of revealing your existence. No a bad trade all things considered.

elsicava

Ngl I have been wracking my brain for the past week trying to figure out a way for Grievous to play ball, but I fear I made Conqueress too op by design. The commanders are only as smart as the author and all that... I'll sleep on it and try to rewrite some bits of it later.

Mad Max

That was anticlimactic. Battle of the Boogeymen turned into Beating Off A Boogeyman.


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