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A Soldier's Life - 231 Beta Edit -

🕑 Added 2024-07-18 17:41:12 +0000 UTC

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Robert Biederman

I agree the original was better

Nikolaus Sheehan

I also prefer the original chapter pre-edit. Doing everything he can to preserve good people, true strength.

Erick Thiemke

You still have the final edit…

C

I prefer the original, I prefer the man who is doing everything he can to keep his humanity, morals, and fights as best he is able, to actually be just and kind. I dont like him willingly partaking in an evil role when he has options to not, even if it comes with risks.

sam

I prefer the original chapter, if he kills someone innocent let it be his decision rather than an order

Fortunis

I prefer the original version. It fits the MCs character much better. This is just the blood thirsty murder hobo version. I mean, the dude literally goes out of his way to help people every chance he gets.

Chachi

prefer this version feels more realistic

SodaBoBomb

Oh no! Not going out of your way to save someone's life! The horror! How dare he have morals?!

SodaBoBomb

Unfortunate that the bloodthirsty type readers got to you. Sylphs death is fine, as it was in the heat of combat. Him making Helena think he killed the Mage and his callous attitude about all of it does NOT make sense and doesn't fit his character.

Justin Golenbock

I don’t understand the rewrite. This is to make Eric seem more grimdark embittered or something? Killing characters just to kill them feels disingenuous, Eryks never been soft but him hesitating to kill a familiar face and coming up with ingenious ways to save someone he didn’t have to save is in character for him. And it was a nice reunion with an old character under difficult circumstances, where his kindness created more problems for him. Changing all that up to have him kill a character for no reason and create a silly anime-esque misunderstanding with another feels tacky and pandering. I much prefer the original chapter

Deliver roo

I would add that he could be so strong that in a life or death situation he could kill another legionary by reflex. Being physically overwhelming doesn’t translate into unparallelled battle control in my opinion, it actually makes casualties easier.

momo2009

i like the added info for the background added to the first citizen. The disarming of the mages also made sense and was well written. But i still prefer the first chapter better but a gradual hard Eryk seem as a great possibility when he escapes the empire and become a mercenary. And ask the mage what each item does for her life to be spare.

Karnnie

Overall, I like the edits. This makes it so that Eryk is not going out of his way to save someone, again. Even killing the other legionnaire purposely or accidentally, we will have to wait for your edit. One thing I would change, as Eryk is not an idiot is, when he took the artifacts from the Mage, he should ask what they do. Depending on what they do, Eryk might just decide to keep them for himself, especially the dungeon ring. Afterall, if she took as much gold and silver as they could carry in order to flee, it is not a far stretch to think that the mage might have sold off or traded off those items in search of protection, passage or sworn secrecy. Then Eryk would have more gear/loot for himself or his friends in the future and he could simply report that the mage had no such items on herself or her belongings. Since he also stated that Helena ran off, he could explain that she ran off with the bags when she left, adding hundreds of gold and silver to his increasing wealth as well. I scanned the waters every hour, and cursed when the specks of light in the distance confirmed the orc fleets fleet arrival, far to the north. I scanned the waters every hour, and cursed when the specks of light in the distance confirmed the orc fleet's arrival, far to the north.

sdf

I also like that the next time he runs into Malveith (sp) or the elf, he's going to actually have a half-dozen women in his storage space. That will be a fun conversation.

Deliver roo

The second version feels heavier and slower but it gives important infos and seems better to me overall. One thing that should be clear in my opinion is that Sylph dies because shit happens in a fight not because Eyrick goes out of his way to kill her. Surprised by the fact that he suddenly smartens up and decides to trick Helena but honestly it is better than waiting for his pocket space to get full before he has to make choices.

Lemes

I like the first one more. Something good about this chapter was the part where he searches and takes the magician's artifacts, it seemed like something he would do. Otherwise, I prefer the previous chapter.

Jordan

I like this latest version more. Not killing sylph just makes it seem his skills make fighting so easy he can Willy nilly take on anyone he wants to and not worry about the consequences (doesn’t even have to kill them!). He’s good, but not that good yet IMO. Also, bashing someone’s head with a sword doesn’t make sense unless you specifically hit them with the hilt.

theend

I know that Eryk is one of the strongest legionnaires. But as the training with the emperor's legionnaires has shown, there are still other legionnaires who can take him on. Hound Hercule is certainly worse than Eryk, but he had experience and ruthlessness on his side and still got wounded and had to retreat. Like I said, Eryk faced three enemies who worked together and he had to held back to spare Helena. Neither do fights always go the same way. Just because Eryk won against nine pathfinder orcs once doesn't mean he'll win against nine the next time. That's why I think it contributes to the realism of the story when one of his opponents dies or is injured so badly that he can't save them.

Broke Boy

What you don’t realise is Erik is probably one of the strongest legionnaire or hounds out there rn with his essence collector and dreamscape amulet he’s stronger than most people he comes across he could kill all three very easily without breaking a sweat. So him cutting off her arm and immobilising the other two is very realistic and works with the story.

M.S.McGowan

I like the fact he saves people when he doesn't have to. I think this preserves his humanity not allowing himself to justify murder.

larback

Hey author, follow your heart and your thoughts, you are the author of the work and not the patrons. If you keep changing your story to satisfy some people you may end up getting lost in the original script of YOUR story. You didn't need to edit the chapter, Erik's space would fill up and eventually he would be unable to save people and would be forced to do what he doesn't want to do. As for the chapters, I don't have any preferences, they were both good and I'm just here to have fun reading the story.

Da Worst John

I know like the first chapter better too

Laura Hall

Definitely prefer the first. The sudden change to a “harder” Eryk seemed much more of a caricature than before (not that I completely agree with the caricature assessment). This came across in the writing which for the first time ever reading anything by you felt dry and disjointed (a feeling so strange I was actually prompted to post when I never do). Maybe he does go down that road but I’d need to see something that actually causes that to happen. For it to happen at this point was jarring and I couldn’t follow the logic. I agree with others that the hard choices he’s going to have to make come now his storage is full. Thank you for the effort though! It was interesting to see a different take.

Roberto Dias

Is better when cruel things happen TO him. He paying for his good deeds, but still being a moral person, is more relatable than he becoming cruel.

Roberto Dias

Like the first better The second is he being unnecessary cruel. I will prefer a more naive Erick that get betrayed and pay dearlly for his good actions, but keep a clear moral compass than this UnErick version

JollyRodger

I like both myself. Eryk definitely needs more "crap sticks" handed to him. One's where there are no good outcomes, only less bad or what you're left with after trying for a better one. I also really like him not being a murder hobo just to fit in and play a role. Life generally doesn't let you role through and not get something on you. Seeing that struggle to limit the damage he could be doing gives the story depth. Not everyone get the happy ending though or fighting for one would have no worth and hinder character growth. In my humble opinion. Loving the story dear author

theend

The second version is definitely better. A few of the readers note that Sylph's death is unnecessary or too cruel, but I think it adds to the realism. Eryk can't hold back too much or underestimate them. These three already escaped from another hound and injured him. Fights are always unpredictable and chaotic, especially when Eryk has to hold back to save Helena. I don't really care whether the legionnaire or the mage dies, but not everything can always end on a happy note, just like in real life.

Joshua Summerville

I like the first one, feel like it is the is more in line with his personality.

Reid

I wasn't necessarily left wanting for a chapter rewrite when commenting on the previous iteration, so either one would be fine. The only issue though is if the first one is used there would have to be consequence to his flippant actions. The story began with a real character in a fantasy world and is now turning into to a fantasy character in a fantasy world; a shadow of its former self. Mistakes have consequences and in a real setting Eryk would be making them in spades. He keeps threatening his life, the lives of the only friends he has, and now the true mission he is fighting for with his actions and complete disregard to risks and consequences. All it would take to ruin everything is for Helena to snitch or get captured and be questioned by truthseekers to possibly ruin everything. Would he really risk all that he has for someone he barely knows and without a sure fire way to communicate with his true allies? Would he really spare supposed enemies if if greatly limits his storage space and by extension himself? Will he ever have to make any REAL choices? The answer could be yes or no, but regardless of either choice we should be able to see how those thoughts would tear at him. (And for the people who are saying that Eryk is breaking character, I had a very pleasant conversation with my brother about his actions in a few select FOBs while he was in Afghanistan and questioned him on why he "broke character" 😂 as he's probably the nicest and most empathetic person I know (he also enjoys this story btw and we had a few laghs on the sensibilities present is some of the comments). For those people, please do keep in mind that the person you are and the person who you have to be are sometimes diffrent when it comes to stressfull or threatening situations.)

Victor Skaarup

I like this version better.

Mugatu9

I liked the first version better

Daniel kanevsky

I like both, either way, you can't please everyone. Go with your gut

sdf

I preferred the first. The interactions seemed more in line with who he is, where he comes across as a bit of a callous jerk in this one.

Noah

I do prefer the first chapter, doesn‘t make sense to me for him to kill Sylph. Feels very out of character…

Cícero Daniel

a outra versao foi melhor.

ParaParadox

I preferred the first version even though I didn't comment. Eryk rejecting the easy "kill them all" route is the Eryk that let a hostile Elf and a Goblin live in his storage space. Plus, we're setting up an inevitable conflict with the Duke anyways.

Caledon Smith

A lot to unpack here, I’ll start with that given both chapters, I would prefer a mesh of the chapters. The first chapter was better, though I say that as I would need to see how the fight transgressed. If Eyrk first dis-handed her but then she came back and tried to kill him again forcing a reflex that had Eyrk kill her that then leads to this new chapter then I would like this version better. I would like to see Eyrk take a moment to try to puzzle out how he could salvage this event to have the best ending, but finding that there was little he could have done with his current powers. I would like to see him burn the body of the guard he killed with helina help before knocking her out and storing her. But if the only major change from the previous chapter is that he cuts her throat instead of her hand then the first renditions are better. The best change here though is that you added Eyrk taking the mage out and writing that he captured her before telling them that she is dead. I hope that gets put into which ever version you keep. The point that I was trying to make in the comments was not that Eyrk needs to kill everyone, but that there should be consequences for his actions. Sometimes he needs to forced to pick between two bad options, or fail when trying to create a good option from a bad scenario.

1536539

This chapter fixed some errors, he still shouldn’t have killed the other legionnaire as neutralizing her would have been relatively easy with his current skill in combat, and it goes against his character to aim for a killing blow in this situation. Thank you for the chapter

Prinny Knight

First chapter version is better.

Shade

I like this one, it feels that Eryk is changing and that is expected to happen.

Trenton king

First chapter is better, makes it harder to save more people In the future since he has no space gives a bigger Dilemma on to how face the future with out the pocket space.

Angus

Not sure about this change. He captures the mage, disables 1 of the legionnaire (which happens to be Helana), but decides to kill the other (Sylph?) Considering he was the hunter in this situation, it seems strange to decide to kill 1 of the 3 but spare the other two, one of which was his target. If he was ambushed and acted in self-defense because he was surrounded by multiple individuals it would make sense to thin the number of attackers before taking prisoners. The mindset to kill 1 (not the target) and spare the other two feels off.

Ben Walker

I also like it shows however much he has improved in combat skills, can still have unintended consequences and it’s dangerous. Needs that amulet.. wonder if it’s the type he has been looking for.

Michael Nau

I like parts of the beta better but would be more happy if sylp lived. Eryk should be wastly better because of his hound training and the usage of his magic and tools (paralytic poison etc.) I don't think it's that unrealistic he can take them on in this setting and clear the facts before doing something irreversable because his scumbag boss and coworker told him so. I like the idea to keep Helena in the dark about her mistress. It would also be possible for him to drop something like... I heard "that place" is nice this time of the year... it opens up to a future Reunion. Rusty was a damn fine horse maybe a kick in defiance of the end would have been nice.

Mason W

I was surprised you changed this, the first chapter was more in character for him. This feels off base for some reason.

Kbzzy

Feels out of character. Not sure why everyone was complaining but him saving all three felt much more natural

Thresher

I like this edit. Looking forward to a harder Eryk, though not a heartless one.

Alex

This whole confrontation, both versions, has left a sour taste in my mouth. It feels out of character for him to kill the Legionnaire and trick Helena, who he admitted to owing, into thinking that someone she obviously cares about it dead. He saved a random mother but won't save two trained Legionnaires and a mage who have been burned by Octavian just as he and Castile were? He also knows that Centurion Sergius and Octavian are rotten -- he never should have gone into the encounter looking to fight. What's more likely an order from Sergius: a real traitor to the Empire or someone he and Octavian are framing for political reasons? It feels like needless drama to show how "dark" the world is, but it's not in keeping with your character.

yohan gu

This edit is great. Let's recapitulate: Minor continuity issues have been fixed: - Helena seeing despite having been blinded, fixed - Rusty the warhorse being scared, fixed, now he may even have saved his rider's life, which is great. Rusty, you're a good horse. The backstory of the mage Selene has been fixed: She is no longer just a despicable deserter, she has better reasons to refuse her duty, and Octavian's role and Sergius's complicity have been made clearer. - She is not trained to be a mage - She legally should be granted a larger escort - They plotted to reduce her allowed escort and hide the reason of her family's death Also, Octavian and Sergius' plot is more sensible now, since the prior elimination of the family is an instrument for sending her to war without her host. The events of the chapter make more sense: - The killing of the first legionnaire makes the story more grounded: they were fighting and it would feel odd that everyone gets away unscathed. - Despite the reasonable event of the death of one of his foes, once he controls the situation, Eryk tries to do the right thing, like in the alpha version, but here it is more rational. - He tries to get the information from Sergius to evaluate if he is acting according to his duties and to know what latitude of action he has with Helena - Since Sergius wants the mage dead he makes the moral choice of saving her. - Since he has clarified that Helena is not an issue he can let her go without encumbering his space, he just has to bear the brunt of her reprobation. This is a hard decision, but the right one morally and practically. - He learns from his past mistakes with Raelia and checks the mages belongings before sending her back to his space. Good usage of magebane. So, I'd say this version is vastly better. It feels much more real and the characters are better defined.

Silver Beard

2nd is better setup for a mercenary arc. Still think keeping Selene is the wrong move. The Centurian, Octavion and everyone else who was in on her removal would need to die so when she inevitably turns up alive somewhere nobody will question it. Eryk leaving the Hounds and the Legion is not quite the same has being branded a traitor and possibly hunted himself. This is where slow aging will bite him the ass. It's not like his appearance is going to change anytime soon. He also should have equipped the Amulet and ring...one he might actually be about to need. Could have spent the night charging it. Perhaps the ring gave her the invisibility or drain?

visigoth

I like this edit better. He's already been informed twice that he's not going to like being with Sergius by others before this. And it's just the world he lives in - where he can't save everyone. Both Helena and Sylph came at him with every intention to kill, so it seems kinda cheap to keep skirting deaths to appease some more squeamish readers. Sure, killing two kids and a mother in front of one might've been a little too dark, but a random legionnaire? At least he didn't kill the other *and* seriously maim Helena before he recognized her. You've painted a brutal world with pockets and bubbles of kindness. No need to sugar coat it. It's not like he hasn't killed before.

Maximus Terror

I think either chapter is fine I think it depends on what you are going for. The Beta edit is a harder Eryk than I think we are used to, but it reflects well the impossible decisions he is having to make. When backed in a corner what will Eryk do? Flee, make morally ambiguous decisions, become a bad guy? When being the good guy is easy then of course Eryk is going to be the good guy, but what now? Where is he headed? Personally I like the edit better because it better highlights the impossible choices he is having to make and puts more weight on Eryk's shoulders and on his decision making. If you are writing the story of an always does the right thing hero, then stick with the first chapter, but if you are trying to show that good people some times have to make the best of multiple bad options (more realistic IMO) then stick with the edit. My two cents anyway...

InfernalDrake

Eh, I kinda like the first more. Him having a conflict between “Orders are orders” and wanting to be a at least a decent person is good material. Filling up his storage to force a choice faster is a good wall for him to be put up against.

Broke Boy

I say u leave it the first way. If he can get away with being good natured then let him.

Andrew

I like this more, thank you!

Broke Boy

Yh might not fit if u went with killing her friend and also telling her the mage was dead

Erick Thiemke

yeah I thought about him telling her where Castile was planning to go when she escaped teh Empire but dropping that info seems stupid

Broke Boy

I don’t think I like it. Would’ve loved too see them develop more of a relationship as it was kinda foreshadowed that she was gonna be a bit more important from the beginning


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