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Italian GWOT Steel: the Beretta AR-70/90

🕑 Added 2023-07-07 12:00:02 +0000 UTC
Italian GWOT Steel: the Beretta AR-70/90

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But of course! You probably know I was the first person to have a firing AR-70/90 from this recent import of parts kits. One of the big mysteries was the how and why of those huge blob-headed welds. The "how" is fairly simple...they just used a MIG with a cup at the end of the "stinger". The "why" is a bit more interesting: The underlying parts of the receiver like the trunnion and rear lug plate are heat-treated alloy steel. Well, at least the trunnion is...can't swear to the lug plate. The sheet metal is just low carbon steel, and far weaker. The idea of the blob-headed weld was to increase the amount of sheet metal area in each joint. Why? Because stress is force divided by area, and the larger the area the lower the stress.

*Gun Designer. Jesus...uh Gun Jesus! And thanks. ;-)

Forgotten Weapons

Haha - I'm no gunsmith, and he's a heck of a gunsmith. :)

Mark Farris

Wow never though Mark Serbu could school Gun Jesus.

Forgotten Weapons

Damn. Thanks for that!

Loke von Post

Ahhh! I was just wondering why it came off so easily xD Thanks for clearing that up for me :)

Guido Schriewer

seems like a good system but man those italian rifles are always sort of oddballs.

FYI, the rear lug plate and trunnion aren't riveted in, they're welded. Beretta just used these giant, blob-headed welds that look like rivets.

Forgotten Weapons

Crud, that's embarrassing. It was indeed an editing mistake.

Forgotten Weapons

You are both technically correct...the best kind of correct. :)

Matisse Enzer

And to be pedantic it is bullet LENGTH for a given caliber not weight that has the major influence on the twist rate required for stabilization. Generally speaking of course heavier bullets are longer but technically it is the length that matters. So geeky ...

Matisse Enzer

I wonder if the hood of the gas cutoff is part of a sighting system for rifle grenades?

Tony Pardoe

You missed the removal of the flash hider/grenade launcher part of the process from film. It looks like you can just randomly yank the gas’s block off. Probably an editing issue.

Bruce Brodnax

*Technically* the 1:7 twist barrel is required to stabilize the projectile from the tracer ammo matching the SS109, not for the SS109 itself [which is quite happy w/ 1:9], but you knew that... 😉


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