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Can I Shoot 1 MOA All Day? (Bloke/Polenar Challenge Accepted!) (Ad-free)
🕑 Added 2024-05-11 22:43:42 +0000 UTCPosting this early for all of you guys...
Bloke and Žiga have challenged us - and you! - to shoot a 1 MOA group on demand, with a non-benchrest sort of rifle. The idea is that a whole lot of people will happily insist that their regular hunting rifle will quite easily shoot 1 MOA all day long. Well, will it? Prove it! One minute of angle is a pretty impressive standard if you aren't talking about 3-shot groups, called flyers, do-overs, and mulligans. So let's see if I can meet the challenge.
I'm using my 8.6 Blackout Fix with Gorilla 300gr subsonic FMJ and a Burris Eliminator 6 scope.
Want to show me up? Grab your phone and your rifle, hit the range and film your own attempt!
Bloke on the Range Challenge Video:
Complete rules:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12K7e1G2tEi9_Q9YDo0CyuTtW3ufhOf1NjhI0HInDQeM/
Comments
David T Klein
Wow. That’s either SOME effective suppressor or that’s SOME quiet bullet. Either way, what a great quiet solution
David T Klein
Nifty. Thank you
Forgotten Weapons
The rifle is indeed named after the cannons.
Forgotten Weapons
No, it pretty much sounds like a metallic sneeze.
David T Klein
Also, the rifle is called "Ultima Ratio"? I thought that moniker belonged to a pair of canons, emblazoned with "Ultima Ratio Regnum", the last argument of the king, the legitimate employment of force (cannonade). Is the rifle named after that pair of canons?
David T Klein
Is there some funniness with your microphone and/or post-production (in which case, THANK YOU)? Or is 8.6mm Black Out with a large sound-suppressor really sound like a metallic sneeze?
Jack Wakeland
P.S. Last year, “Blackburn Defense” did a fascinating YouTube presentation, “ Science agrees: 5-shot groups are pointless” on the brutal statics of shooter/rifle/ammo accuracy. His testing was extensive enough that his large shot groups showed the chi-squared distribution of bullet impacts. (As a ‘regular’ engineer I assumed that bullet impact inaccuracy would be normally distributed…but it’s not. You are much more likely to shoot rings around the center of the bull’s eye than to hit the center of the X-ring.)
Jack Wakeland
Nice try…and a brave thing to attempt in public. To get to the 1 M.O.A. level of precision you do, indeed, need to drill in on things that are tiny, like the heart beat. A sling and cuff would help. (I’ve never even gotten down to a 1-1/2 M.O.A. — with an honest 10-shot group — on my best rifle, best ammo, on my best day.)
Retired No Bad Days
I use a 30x scope to do my load development. I can see my heart beat that moves the rifle as I shoot at 100yd targets. I know I induce at least 1/8" error and my hand loaded ammo most likely another 1/8" to 1/2" error and then the whole dynamics of the rifle and the projectile exiting the muzzle will effect the accuracy. Bottom line is a 1 MOA ten shoot group very unlikely. Everyone should watch the Hornady pod cast #050 "Your Groups are too Small".
Guido Schriewer
man that ultima ratio looks to stay on target real well. quiet a heavy steel beam, huh.
Mark H. Smith
PERISH the thought that folks might embellish their equipments or their own abilities! Especially if it's their hobby. Why I would NEVER do such a thing.... caught a 20# bass just this morning in my kiddie pool.... No kidding!
