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Black Hawk Down: Randy Shughart's M14 (Ad-free)

🕑 Added 2024-09-11 12:00:05 +0000 UTC
Black Hawk Down: Randy Shughart's M14 (Ad-free)

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Forgotten Weapons

No, I didn't do any bedding.

Bruce Brodnax

Ian, have you done any bedding in that composite stock for your simulation? All the M1 accurizing tricks for NM were well known by then and any that were applicable [no upper handguard issues, obviously] would have been. Even a rosin glue-up could be easily maintained in the field and help w/ wandering zero issues. Just sayin'...

Bruce Brodnax

Helo overwatch shooting thru mud-brick buildings & wood slat roofs & such the 7.62 would have it all over pre-855A1 5.56 NATO. Shughart's choice was eminently sensible given the mission profile.

maxmfs

Great video. One of the problems was FMJs and Khat being ubiquitous. That’s where you want 7.62 vs 5.56 for knockdown power. If you’re doing helo sniper overwatch, the m14 made a lot of sense at the time. Dismounted in Mogadishu, is a more difficult equation.

Kenneth Marshall

I would think you have a few followers within Somalia

Kenneth Marshall

One would think that the capture of a weapon was a trophy and that it has been saved somewhere by someone who kept it as a prize. Although it could have been swapped up by regional arms dealers and exist in the wilds without a trail.

Forgotten Weapons

Finding that rifle would be an amazing relic!

Forgotten Weapons

Bowden's book (the original "Black Hawk Down") does comment on the apparent stopping power problems with M855 62gr 5.56mm ammo, although any improvement from Shughart's 7.62 is really just speculative, as there wasn't any way to know who he shot. Hard to see it being *less* effective, though.

Kenneth Marshall

Investigating the trail of the lost M14 sounds like an interesting concept for a Forgotten Weapons Documentary although travel might be dangerous.

Kenneth Marshall

I was always curious if there was any after action review of the use of his .308/7.62 vs 5.56 of his peers. There had been other account reports of short 5.56 being occasionally ineffective at dropping hit opponents which in part led to the advancement of using 14.5" barrels. I would think the result is obvious 308 is better, at the cost of ammunition carry quantities.

Guido Schriewer

I don't think somali weapons weren't exactly.. standardised. anyways. I like the 14. shortcommings shortest lived blah blah blah or not. cool rifle! if I'd know I would face half of somalia I wouldn't want a rifle but a radio. and every a10 in the sky I could get! hey that those lasers uses AA's... great. that simplifies batteries A LOT.


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