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Case 272: The Annecy Shootings

🕑 Added 2024-02-10 08:11:32 +0000 UTC

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Bob Trenwith

AR I wasn't making a negative comment about Americans. I am just asking that they use the correct pronunciation for the location of the case. But ... there is one Americanism I have to complain about ... WTH is "I COULD care less"?

Matt Hudson

Fantastic episode. An excellent delivery of intriguing and frustrating case. May the victims rest in peace and hopefully receive justice one day.

Nompilo Ngcobo

Love this podcast❤️. Please cover South African case Thabo Bester🙏

Paulette

Says someone who wishes to be identified entirely by an arm.

Jason Barber

Yeah seriously: we all know what they meant and equally know Casefile aren't being derogatory in any way at all - so what's the problem? Most people don't work in mental health, while an increasing number of us are so over the PC Police whining endlessly about every kind of wording that doesn't fit the latest 'language' decided on by social workers obsessed with never offending anyone - ever. Harden up Buttercup: outside your workshops is a whole *planet* who couldn't give a sh!t which words are used -- only the intent behind them -- and none of the Casefile writers are being offensive at all.

Stacey Carson

It’s a kind and respectful approach to avoid labelling someone based upon one (ableist) characteristic that they may have. It allows us to see a person as more than their diagnosis…. This has been a lovely strength-based trend in healthcare for some time now ❤️

David Rogosaroff

Why?

AR

Don't tarnish all Americans with this mispronunciation. Before George Bush Sr took office, we as a culture pronounced the word "ih-rock" and my experience is that it's only been since the 90s that everyone just started pronouncing it in the laziest most disrespectful way possible. I still say "Ih-rock" though. We exist!

Carolyn Barry

Yep. It's like the Jon Benet case - we will never know thanks to police botching it early on

Benjamin

Live 10 minutes from claygate and somehow hadn’t heard this case before! Great episode

Stacey Carson

Hi team! Love this episode. Can I please ask that you use person-first language in future episodes? The term ‘schizophrenic’ could be replaced by ‘X was living with schizophrenia’, for example. Useful link for more info: https://pwd.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/PWDA_LanguageGuide_A5_WEB.pdf

Ally Jakubicka

Perfect crime? Sounds like a poorly executed investigation.

J. Chips

Unsolved murders like this case really keep me up at night! 😰

Bob Trenwith

You appear to be whining about something.

Byron Ridenour

Bob is always in the comments whining about something

Megan Brennan

You replied much kinder than I would have 🥰

Casefile True Crime

Hi Jamie. You should have heard the opening theme. Did it not play?

Casefile True Crime

Happy new year Bob

Connie Archibald

Another fascinating story, going to it again!

Bob Trenwith

If it was him the gun would have to have been very close to the scene, and none was found.

Sam Gorrie

How did they rule out the initial cyclist who found the bodies? Seems potential to claim to have found the bodies but was actually involved. Incredibly hard to believe and surreal case all round

Bob Trenwith

Even major coincidences happen more often than you would think. Like the well-known story of a couple who had met as adults going through one of the wife's family photo albums, and the husband recognising himself and his family in the background of one of those photos which was taken as a 5 year old. Unless we have more evidence I think we have to trust that this avenue was properly explored. Doesn't mean there is nothing in it either, but I just like to pull up people who jump to absolute conclusions ... after all, we have attacked police here before for doing the same thing to the exclusion of all other avenues of investigation.

Marc Surlis

Ah, misremembered who had the passports in the pocket! And yeah, coincidences happen but it's a major coincidence that both her husbands died on the same day surely!

Bob Trenwith

How is the victim having the his own and his family's passports in his pocket a red flag? And ... coincidences happen.

Marc Surlis

It's entirely possible I missed it when listening, it would not be the first time! But two questions: - the wife's og American husband dying the same day, coincidence?! Hardly? - someone's jacket had their passports in the pocket? How is that not a case closed revelation?

Bob Trenwith

Do Brits or the French pronounce Iraq as Eye-rark? If not, could you please save American pronunciations for American cases. It feels like you're leaving your origins behind.