Premium Episode #29 - George Pickering

Bluechurch77

For the record this is happening with frefrequency in hospitals. There is money for organs, so if you are an organ donor on your driver's lilicense, beware. Plus it was the pharmaceuticals this young man was taking that nearly killed him. Kudos to the father.

Suicide Sauce

I mean he did point a gun at people. I get what you're saying but there are not many other uses for a gun

Suicide Sauce

Mmmm, Anjelica Huston...

Suicide Sauce

Hey guys, make an advance directive for yourself even if you're not in immediate danger of stroking out. An advance directive will let docs and loved ones know exactly what your wishes are should you end up in a vegetative state and can't communicate. Do not make your family members decide for you, it's cruel. Few people are like "yeah I got to tell them to pull the plug and it was rad"

Suicide Sauce

Ma'am it isn't murder unless there's intent, and it wouldn't have been a homicide even if the guy had died. That's not how words or laws work

Suicide Sauce

It's because you have a really narrow window of time to get the organs out, transported, and into another person. It's not like milk, you can't use them past their expiration date. Organ donation is just that-- a donation, there's no profit or kickback involved, so there's no reason for a hospital to "snatch" organs except to get them while they're fresh and send them off.

cole spooner

Ugh… this one gave me anxiety. The hospital gave my wife the wrong iv and caused a brain bleed. I remember laying in the hospital still trying to wrap my brain around wtf happened when the end of life people come in… to this day I still feel like I should’ve let her fight longer because I just didn’t feel the doctors were right. She was 32, and I feel like they were in such a hurry to get her organs. My kids were 3 and 4, and my oldest would say “my mommy’s a superhero, she saved 5 lives!” … but when she’d say that I always felt like maybe she’d still be here if I told the end of life and docs saying she was brain dead all to f off

Faith Vieira

The medical staff were ready to snatch George Jr’s organs right out of him. Now, I don’t advise people to go and do this, but the medical staff seemed too eager to declare him dead and harvest his organs.

Niels David

@Jess Chiller patients aren’t “murdered” by medical staff in the US. The decisions are left to authorized individuals—most often immediate family members (as in this case.) The father would have been involved in this process had he not had his privileges revoked due to reckless and abusive behavior. He had a standing restraining order against him due to this.

Niels David

@patrick, what was the “wrong diagnosis”? I’ve seen the public court files. The doctor never uttered “brain death” once. The care team gave their opinions based on the available evidence and the family members in charge made the decision.

Luma61

Whats the factual one?

Niels David

AR

Reading the comments here would seem to suggest it very much *is*!

DanDan Hackett

Fantastic thought provoking story.

Martin Gwynn Jones

Sorry to rock your world Patrick but diagnoses are occasionally wrong. The gun-wielding alcoholic drunk psycho was engaging in magical thinking and happened to stumble onto a mistake. Life isn’t fair. But let’s not encourage this shit.

Jess Chiller

I'm a nurse and agree with this. These stories need to be publicised, as all true crime stories do. I'm in Australia, so gun violence isn't prevalent here but we do get abused often. However, a young man could have potentially been 'murdered' by medical staff and was saved by his father. Not in the right way, but saved nonetheless. Situations like these can happen more than once, and it's good for people to be aware.

Patrick

Their diagnosis was wrong. Perhaps people would be more considerate of HC workers if they were more considerate to the families of their patients.

Martin Gwynn Jones

Sorry, I hate publicizing these stories. Healthcare workers go through enough without crazies being encouraged to shoot up a ward because they don’t like a diagnosis

Luma61

Alan

Excellent change of pace. Raises some questions, indeed.

Douglas

He did what he had to do for his child.

Douglas

The dad is a hero

Zac

Good episode, i sympathise for George II because you know his intentions weren’t to hurt anyone

Bob Trenwith

Huston? Is that John or Anjelica?

Jordan Lowes

The premium episodes are usually 30-40 mins I think

David Rogosaroff

Only a short one today😅