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Chapter 287: Béchar vs. Priam

🕑 Added 2024-10-12 21:27:03 +0000 UTC
Chapter 287: Béchar vs. Priam

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Zaim İpek

I agree that would be nice.

Zaim İpek

Probably. He seems like he wants to do a high tribulation afterwards, and that would lead to a tier increase.

_mori

He now has the ability to one shot a t3 after a little prep, where before he had to go all out to kill the giant skeleton. I think I get your point about it being an in-story issue too. During their fight, Arnold also estimated that Priam had an effective vitality of 13k(?). Even those with personal AI/systems won’t be exempt from not having all the relevant information. But I would like it if we can get a rough approximation of how much better an epic ideal skill is than a regular one

_mori

There’s probably going to be a customized reward in the last waves of the colosseum. If Priam is offered Lord 5 again, do you think he’ll take it? Also, this is his last set of t0 tribulation right?

_mori

The concepts aren’t regular t9s as far as we know, and seem to stand above their peers. At least, no one has overcome them so far. Not Priam’s patron, not the Necromoon, nor any overlord from the universes they’ve invaded thus far(?)

Zaim İpek

The fact that Priam is going for the colloseum challenge now tells me that his phoenix mentor thinks he is ready. There is no way they haven't discussed this several times. Phoenix Prince knows exactly what it would take to beat his colloseum clone, and has definitely been giving Priam specific guidance (as much as possible) in order to defeat the shadow of his former self and probably have enough strength left at the end of the fight to continue even further. It's exciting to be at a point in the story that was set as a goal so many chapters ago. The suspence and expectation building up to this moment has been huge and matters for more than just Priam but all of humanity that now hopes and expects the impossible. And there is one very big gamble resting on the results of this Colloseum challenge.

Zaim İpek

Necromoon (like Priam's unnamed Patron) is another tier-9 that competed and failed to claim the position of the universal Soul concept. So I think Necro resistance is actually a perfect foundation to build upon and grow into a comprehensive Soul Resistance skill. There is so much he could add to it. It already has an infectious and corruptive effect. Virus resistance should fit right in. I am unsure if Depths is more of a Chaos or Karmic based thing. It may also be a soul thing, but I'm unsure. Depths is mysterious. unrelated I wonder who would win in a fight between the tier-9s we know about. Like Dragonslayer vs Necromoon or Priam's Patron vs Depths. These are all entities so vast that they are difficult to comprehend. It's fun to imagine them as anthropomorphic fighters in a ufc cage match.

Zaim İpek

I would say your difficulty is the same difficulty people within the story have. Priam, Kazuki, and Arnold would have a better understanding of their own abilities than most because all have AI assistance supplying them with recording and measurement. But without that, it takes experience and good intuition on the part of the observer. There are probably many who vould watch a fight with Priam and only have a vague understanding of the level of power involved until they fight him themselves, unless they have intimate knowledge of the abilities of the other party. We don't understand Bechar's abilities and power level well enough. This is the first time we have seen him actually fight, so we have no frame of reference for his power level other than some commentary. But it does help to know he is tier-3, and he is an above average combatant due to his age and experience, but he also has some glaring weaknesses due to mistakes he made when he was young and ignorant. But in his specific areas of strength, he is very good. We know Priam is significantly stronger now than during his fight against Arnold and the robo-army, but it's hard to say how much. By far, the best point of reference is the colloseum itself. We know roughly how each level grows in power from last time, and seeing how he deals with the same levels again compared to the first time is insightful. I think the next chapter is the one where we really begin to get a good idea for how competent Priam has become. It wasn't expounded upon, but also of note is that the Necromoon effect is ongoing and the necro-beasts are still getting stronger and more numerous by the day. Initially the growth rate of the monsters caught Priam by surprise, but Priam's growth (as exponential as it is) is now out-pacing the growth rate of the necro-beasts. Priam seems to be having a progressively easier time dealing with the necro-monsters from the brief time-skip summary we got.

GreatCabbage

I’d imagine some kind fusion with Necro Resistance being the main. Add in spirit, viral, aura, or the like. Maybe even a fusion of Necro and Depths?

John

cant priam become a ghost and go outside his own body? that seems perfect to use with his phantom skill somehow

PriÀm

yes, virus is under life, which is under Soul!

Lijwent

That problem stems from the litRPG genre, without hard equation to quantify damage, comparing is pretty much impossible, there are so many parameters involved, and even video games have approximation for that Like just the physics itself is quite hard, and you have to add the whole stats and skills on top of it

HJSecond

I'm guessing his Alien Resistance (Tribulation Hunter) will be for a fulcrum representing an 8th concept outside of the 7. Free will probably matches more for Soul since it focuses on protecting the Ego. An upgraded Consequence resistance would be good for Karma. For the others: Ciphered Record for Order, Sun Steel for Matter, Fire Champion for Energy, Space+Gravity for Dimension, and Unlocking probability resistance for Chaos with Esme's help.

_mori

One thing I’ve realized reading is that it’s a bit difficult to conceptualize how much better Priam’s skills are, especially the resistances. In a fight it’s immediately more obvious that he can take a greater beating, but I still don’t have much of an idea how much of that is skill or stat. Take is Sun Steel Body for instance. If we compare that to someone with a regular epic counterpart (not high), and with the same amount of stats relevant for the skill, how much more would Bechar’s attacks impact them?

_mori

I’m going through his skill list and I noticed he has a common rarity virus resistance. Would that count?

_mori

What would a Soul resistance even look like? Breath is the first concept we’ve seen related to soul, which was honestly unexpected for me. But I guess soul is supposed to cover life and death too? Would that make Life/Death tier 8 concepts? I’m getting off topic lol. A resistance targeted toward death, I can imagine, but what would one for life look like? Bio manipulation resistance?

_mori

So Fire goes to Energy resistance, Free Will for Karma (a fusion with consequence resistance would round it out, but that can happen when they’re evolving to legendary), Sun Steel Body for matter, Space resistance would go for dimension, but I think Priam will want to make it ideal first? Regardless, at the end of the road, or a the Zenith, Priam would/should have no more than 7 residences? Maybe 8 for faith? His fulcrum needs one of its own, but it something like Faith seems too narrow.

Dungeonborn

Its just so twistet like every thing has the potential to affect something down the line. I don’t think I’ve read something before ANC that has me thinking about the latest chapter like this. It’s crazy and I love it.

James Faulkner

Fuck yesssss

_mori

That’d be so OP. Would it be a quasi-baptism then?

Amari Charles

NOOOOO I WANT MORE SO BAD 😭

PriÀm

Hey Strider, I would be honored if you did that! HJSecond created an amazing sheet that comes in two versions: one for Patreon members and one for RR. Feel free to drop by the Discord server if you want to discuss it further!

PriÀm

You must have a very high IQ :D I love it when readers can predict the future based on what's already written! I won't spoil, but at the very least, you're right, it will affect his soul.

Strider K Zimmerman

Oh my gosh I didn’t even think of Patreon spoilers, if they say yes you just saved me from a horrible mistake

GreatCabbage

Will tempering his body also temper (or affect) his soul due to Homo Elysian Obsession?

HJSecond

That sounds like a good idea. There's already a Royal Road character sheet on the discord where you can get all the stats/info for a fandom page without any Patreon spoilers.

brennon Petersen

Tftc!

James Faulkner

LETS GOOOOOO! Can’t wait for the boss fight against Kel’than next chapter

Captain_Joule

God daaamn

Andrew

Thank you!

Strategist One

Thanks for the chapter! I love it so much! Priam is amazing.

Jakob S.

TftC

Custus

Thanks for the chapter!

Strider K Zimmerman

Tyftc! Also I had a question for you about starting a fandom for A Novel Concept? I was wondering if I had your permission, as I tried to find one but wasn’t able to, and I technically already did but I can delete if you want me to, but if you say yes would anyone be willing to help, as I’m not the brightest when it comes to remembering characters and stat sheets and correct grammar.


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