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Chapter 110

🕑 Added 2022-01-17 20:00:05 +0000 UTC

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Brisingaer

Ok genuinely I'm not against what Luna is doing. BUT. I would like her to be more upfront with the team. Like literally tell them that it would be better overall if they left the path and that she had custom made a rift to lock them into one of the choices. Either they would be the most capable pathers there ever were. Or they would abandon the path to follow Luna's plan to become literally one person war deterrents. Plus Matt could then pump out tier 50 world's before he ascends. However. I doubt that's how the story will go. I don't even think Luna will successfully knock them off. But if she does I'm betting it'll be the start of a large and unstoppable power spike for Matt and the team. Maybe even a minor time skip or upscale the pace directly through a few tiers to like 10 or something. Who knows.

Psyren1596

Tbh I agree with Luna. Matt needs to be OP as soon as possible.

Kemizle

@Frardowin it’s not money at the emperors tier it’s a bartering system. You can have all the moneys in the world but if you don’t have something to trade you might as well be broke

ALEXEI

I'm all for him getting off the path it makes sense to me to help hide what he can do

Compendium

Yeah those are literally the justifications of the person who will force Mat to tier 30 and lock him in a box producing mana forever lol.

Lessthan

"For the greater good" has justified many atrocities.

Jamie Trevino

The tyranny of good intentions. Love this story

Octaeon

I don't like how Luna thinks. She literally said it - it matters more to her the potential to save millions than a single individual's wants. That reads very similar to just milking Matt for his mana. To top it off, qiote 'She wanted what was best for her charges, but not what they thought was best for themselves.' I don't like that kind of thinking.

Mario Morales

Right? Her reasoning to try to push him off the Path runs real close to, "so he can become a better battery sooner."

Mario Morales

I don't remember, why can't he just buy a mana concentration treasure each tier. He's got basically unlimited wealth. Or farm a rift to make/find one each tier. These feel like doable solutions that are being overlooked.

Daniel Smith

She could easily get him the mana compression stuff he needs while he is still on the path, she could just have him sell items and or mana though there liaison and then have the liaison by the potions for him. Which is completely we go well on the path because there is nothing saying you can't buy or sell stuff. Which negate half of her argument.

Frardowin

To be fair, the emperor simply wasnt rich enough to buy it, Matt is, which is the point. Matt has i finite mana, he can in fact buy anything, because he can give more mana to a tier 45 than they can conceptualize. Cause you know, infinite mana.

Frardowin

It has already been stated, as others pointed out in other comments, that Luna has been said to have knocked people off of the path if it would bring out their full potential. Ch 71 i think they said.

Alex R

Matt can generate wealth beyond his Tier but the difference in cost between Tiers is absolutely massive. From Discord, a T20 stone is worth 1e24 T8 stones. And as a reference, the entire GDP of the US is ~$20e12.

Alex R

For a normal person not a ton, but for Matt it could be a lot. Making Matt strong as soon as possible is very very important so he can defend himself because he will have a lot of assassins after him. If Luna can make him fighting up 5 Tiers in 40 years, that is huge for him instead of it taking 200 years. It means he pretty much cant lose without breaking the rules. And it should get better and better from there.

Alex R

Matt and Liz have a drive that the Unbroken don't have. But a major reason is that Matt's Talent set breaks the Path. He likely could delve same Tier rifts and still complete the Path. Malcolm likely could have completed the Path if he had Matt's Talent set. Melinda's Talent is broken and gives the Unbroken a massive advantage but it doesnt trivialize the main constraint of the Path like Matt's does.

Alex R

Potentially. But they are the same Tier so probably not

Daniel Staub

Did Luna phrase her request in such a way as to make sure it was rejected? “We have considered your proposal of loosening the restrictions on one Pather, Matthew Alexander, on the grounds that he needs greater access to restricted items, such as Mana Concentration potions, resources to create rifts, and better training aids. We have unanimously denied said petition.” If it was just "he needs greater access Mana Concentration potions" it might have gone through.

Tjark

Look a few chapters ago. Emperor had to literally raise someone to a royal just to get that one perfect healing skill for Melinda. Or the reward for the King/Queen in the war. Getting on top of the list of the best crafter (Madam Rennaissance?). Not everything is purchasable with money.

Tjark

If Matt gets off the Path the empire would invest the very best stuff they can get their hands on into him. Stuff that is probably not available on the open market or not buyable with simple money. (like emperor had to raise that new royal to get the healing skill for Melinda). It might not be that much of a difference but Luna being a perfectionist probably thinks that small difference in Matt's mana concentration is worth it. And she IS the expert.

SpitEoll

Luna is not "growing and learning" she was always like that, she doesn't care much about the path, only to bring people to their lax potentiel. In chapter 71 Silver says she already made several people off the path to bring out their max potentiel

SpitEoll

Just reread chapter 71, Silver from the colour pather council already says there that Luna has forced many off the path because that was more optimal. Nice continuity

Crushing Despair

Rather, THE BEST mana potion would cost t40-t45 mana stone. Maybe more, since it has to be custom-made, as Matt wants potions that increase concentration, and reduce mana pool to almost 0. Nobody else would want them. Matt can be rich, but not that rich. The most expensive item I remember is void rapier growth item, sold for ~t20 mana stone iirc. On the other hand, I think Matt can make enough rifts to supply everyone on the path below tier 7 with mana potions. It has to worth something.

Buzz1089

Very fun chapter! Thank you!

ReaderRoberta

"It was as natural as knocking a glass of water off a table. Some things just had to be done." Yup... cat!

Buzz1089

I also think it's not just about the mana concentration items. It sounds like there are a lot of other items he needs access to. And the path is too public. They already got interrogated once because they had too much money that shouldn't be possible on the path without help. So he can't be given the items he needs and he can't make the money himself to buy them despite having near infinite money through mana because that will likely leak his talent to other powers. Even then, being on the path will let other powers now about him and increase the risk of them learning about his talent. Which will cause wars before Matt is ready to defend himself.

Obbu

Oooh I love this angle. Using over-achieving a goal as an actual complication (when it can often be a bit of a genre trope that plateaus the tension) is very clever. Looking forward to seeing what develops out of this :D

Christopher Johns

Luna’s attachment to The Path was purely due to her own motivations at making people who had potential stronger because she lost her bonded partner to laziness. With The Path, she can find those who have the most potential and beat it out of them so long as they can keep up, like Liz’s folks. If there’s anyone out there who’s drank the Kool-aid on how awesome the path is, it’s her. But the caveat to that is, everyone she’s trained before needed The Path more than it needed them. With Matt, the Path is actively keeping him from what Luna knows he can be, and it’s driving her mad. Because those resources he needs to become the perfect little monster in her eyes are out of reach. Even if he can pay for them, it takes time from training and making him more deadly and therefore more likely to survive and thrive. With the rift as it is, it’s just this side of being what’s allowable for her to let them do, and for her to intervene on. She cares so much she’s willing to FAIL them, in order to help them succeed. She’s willing to face the emperors fury at having two of the strongest candidates to complete the path shoved off over the right resources. She’s risking all of that because she cares enough about Matt to know that the Path is nothing more to him now than chains wrapped around his ankles and weighing him down. I think the series is heading in a great direction, and I’m proud of seeing this development in Luna. I can’t agree with your statement, man, sorry.

Christopher Johns

Seeing as though my comment keeps disappearing elsewhere, I’ll put it here. I loved this chapter and the direction this story has taken. Luna is growing and learning the Path isn’t the only way when someone’s finally come along who doesn’t need it as much as The Path needs them.

Alex R

Luna wants people to be the strongest they can be. Not succeed on the Path. She wants Matt to be incredibly strong and she knows that the best way to do it is to get him off the Path.

тђє v๏เ๔

Loved the comment Luna made about knocking a glass of water off the table. Especially when you take into account that she's a Cat. 🤣

PlasmaticPi

I am debating dropping this book after that chapter cause its such a reversal of Luna's character, her role, and the story. This whole time she has been portrayed as a hardass teacher who wants them to succeed on the path after her partner died because they couldn't keep going, and now the past few chapters its like all the book is focused on is this upcoming war and making them into the perfect soldiers. I mean its like any compassion or humanity she had disappeared for the sake of some new weird arc. Combined with earlier issues in the book like the pather war coming too soon and how op these rifts are, it seems more and more like the author figuratively blew their load too soon and is now trying to fix it by rushing the story even more by skipping the Path restrictions to tier up even faster. Even if this whole super tier 9 rift is just some plot piece to show how committed to the path they are, it still doesn't make sense because it feels like at some point others must have tried this on people on the Path and as such they would have restrictions on it. Not to mention that they obviously need the protection of the Path more than the extra resources found off of it. Overall its just a bad change of character and plot that makes no sense and just shows how many issues this book has been developing.

Monadologist

I have to admit I'm somewhat chafing under the Luna arc at the loss of even the illusion of agency our protagonists are getting. Other than the 'stay on the path' / 'step off the path' choice, basically everything else is being pre-chewed into a vague mush-like consistency for them.

Obran

Question, if Luna messes up, and if Matt were to die in this overpowered rift and Malinda’s concept of death finally clicks in and revives him, would he still be on the path or off it?

OlivierA

Would need to rename the serial "Fallen off the Path of Ascension"

Obran

Can see Matt sacrificing himself to protect Liz and Astor, letting them finish the delve and forcing him off the path.

C_Mantis

Thanks man. I try to write the story I want to read and I like to think it what makes people so involved. Also my beta readers keep me honest which helps a ton.

V

Fun read, this certainly sets up some hype for the rift challenge to be epic.

Vega

I think it’s interesting that even with melinda’s skills the emperor doesn’t think her group can complete the path even with all the help they have been given. But Liz and Mat they seem to take it as almost given that if they do not voluntarily walk off the path or get saved they will complete the path. I think they will pass Luna’s challenge, then make a deal for a hellish path experience where they are regurslly in danger of dying (if it weren’t for the guards) just for the growth.

Luciaron

Real nice chapter. Luna has kinda been fun manic before this bit now we're seeing the other side

Log Daniels

Yeah this kind is a if you don’t do it now you miss out on the chance.

C. Mantis keep up the good work man. I follow over two dozen other authors on Pateron and for books as popular or even more then yours the fan base isn't nearly as active in the comment section as they are here, your doing something right to have all your readers this invested in your story.

Derze

the problem is the quality of said item. If he earns a suboptimal mana concetration potion and takes it, he loses potencial power just because he can't take the best possible mana concentration potion for his Tier from the Emperor (remeber he can only take 1 per Tier)

Fleetpanda

I'm not sure I understand why he can't get the mana concentration potions while still on the path. The path is all about earning your keep... so he just has to earn them. He could make another rift with the mana concentration herbs, or he could buy them with all the money he's making from his rifts. Idk, it just seems like they're making a simple issue sound impossible

Derze

Interesting. I don’t really know how to feel about this but I guess enough evidence was presented that leaving the path might actually accelerate his growth potential rather than stalling. Melinda group is already a good example of what interference + lack of motivation+ broken op talent can make a team. Despite all Matt and Liz have time and time again demonstrated ability beyond their tier it’s a fair assumption that they would maintain that should they have access to better resources. The other thing is…money is virtually pointless for Matt. Might as well just get the best version u could. When he is Tier 45 or something just have him increase a Planet to 49 or something and move on. Lol that’s literally more than anything could ask for

Amelgar

And once they conquer the known universe then what? It doesn't increase the number of high level cultivators. That is limited by mana. Certainly Melinda's talent is important for defending the empire. But to make it THRIVE it needs mana.

Rhys Rathbun

I think part of what she's worried about is the exposure being on the path causes. It would be a lot easier to keep his abilities secret if he wasn't on it and they could just give him the resources he needs instead of him having to go earn them.

MagicWafflez

even if he can generate enough wealth to get a mana concentration treasure, he's not allowed because of the path. that's why they're not selling shit tons of growth items anymore.

M van Dongen

Amelgar : Manny can copy skills completely.....talents included. A high Tier healer with her Talent would revolutionize warfare. No centuries of downtime after healing high tier injuries.....that would cascade quickly at any level of combat.

Teatime42

The issue with Luna's issue with the emperor, is that once a precedent of "for the greater good" is set, it gives a way for someone to abuse it later. That's somewhat what Luna tried to do by bringing up the interference with Melinda. The Emperor knows how corrupt and horrific those up top could be, and knows only a handline approach gets him the system he wants. It ain't perfect, things still fall through the cracks, but it's the best they've got for now.

Chymor

The path is interesting, it has the advantage of forcing people to look inside themselves for drive, talents and power to meet the challenge of the curve, instead of to the next treasure, like so many cultivation stories do. But there’s also the weakness that the treasures add real strength, and forcing people to find their own results in a suboptimal collection compared to having them provided. No matter how much you provide additional opportunities. So at what point are you better of motivating your geniuses in other ways while providing the right treasures?

Alexander Hallonblad

Tournament!!!! Hype!!!

Brad

I kinda wish that they do fail and get kicked from the path. But if Luna just talked to them I think she might have a good shot at convincing them to step off. Give Liz the truth she seems to love Matt enough to understand.

Frardowin

Which as a peron on the path would raise flags. People will find out if he has to buy them himself. That is the danger luna was talking about imo

TerrestrialOverlord

You know I think that she doesn’t give Matt enough credit…he would be willing to drop of the path if there was a way to keep helping Liz and for them to stay together… Solution help Liz for a while to get bad ass skills and get as much money as possible for a few years where she get 100% of the loot except if it’s good for Matt or Aster. Keep them working and traveling together and they would be fine…also I don’t believe that Liz wouldn’t drop from the path herself while keeping similar arrangements with her parents of non-help… Plus if they are no longer on the path the secrecy with Matt could be even higher, as he would be totally under the influence of his trainer and always receive the best aids for his growth only the ones that would expose his potential … and also the good to have which he would have to earn by meeting certain almost unreasonable benchmarks…

Daniel Staub

Yes, but we also know that he can generate wealth far above his Tier. Buying a single mana concentration potion or natural treasure shouldn't be out of range.

Adurna

So I'd expect a close success and a lot of doing economical actions to get the required resources to advance in a more optimal fashion. Sound about right?

MagicWafflez

because she wants him to have a mana concentration treasure this tier. and every tier he doesn't get one is a waste. that's like 10 tiers without them. honestly, it's for the best that they get thrown off imo. also by T15, it's years and years between tiers anymore so him ruling won't matter. Also also, he's a mobile rift making machine so even if he has to chill in one place he can *always* keep getting stronger. She's right he probably wouldn't care anyway, He just wanted to become strong. it's more Liz that's the one that will want to stay. but like, she isn't really getting the reputation of not having her family's help with her parents following behind her grabbing planets anyway. and with her being partnered with *matt* the path restrictions are non existent.

Tjark

Every tier one can use up to one natural mana concentration treasure to increase his concentration. Due to his talent he can't manually cultivate any mana aspects. Including mana concentration. Because of the Path he can't get the very best mana concentration potions or treasure. That means every time he uses a less effective version or none at all he loses permament potential. Remember when he had to fill Luna mana stone and needed 1000 points to fill one point of her mana. The treasures and potions are his only way to increase his own concentration. If he can't get the best ones while on the Path because of its restrictions he could end up with far inferior mana to normal mages in the higher tiers. Imagine at T40 and he wasn't able to get good enough potions. His mana would be half as effective as anyone elses. That's a huge problem and because of the 1 per Tier restriction it is permament. So him staying on the Path and with that losing on the strong potions will dampen his potential.

Eduard Marciuc

Well, Liz IS determined to stay on the PoA, but she would prioritise Matt's needs and wants over the path. I think she doesn't care as much about the "gotta prove myself" mindset since she finally has friends who accept her regardless, rather than the fakes who were trying to leech off of her. Just a guess tho

Teatime42

Going off memory, normal peeps can actually work on mana concentration on their own, he can't. Again from what I recall, that'll matter a lot down the line.

Austin

I think her main worry is mana concentration for Matt. If he misses getting it even one tier during the Path, he can never get it back. You can only use one mana concentration supplement each tier.

Amelgar

Matt's talent is a pretty BIG deal. Likely more so than Melinda's.

Daniel Staub

This chapter doesn't make sense to me. I can see that for an ideal build Matt needs 'mana concentration potions' but Luna is making this into a BIG deal.

Erriballon

😯

Amelgar

Ah, yeah I can see how those restrictions for The Path would be... difficult for someone like Luna.

Erriballon

Same could be said about you first one to comment

Lictor Magnus

That makes sense. I was looking at more as the training and lack of materials to experiment with or use in battle rather than items that help them physically/spiritually get stronger.

Istyatur Elestel

Im not sure why she thinks liz is that determined to stay on the path. Multiple times durring the concept-finding arc she said she would fall off the path if Matt needed more time. And she mentioned it again durring the cheating investigation.

Log Daniels

You can only use one mana concentration treasure every tier so every tier he doesn’t have one decreases his overall capability because he can regain all the mana that is condensed unlike regular people because of his talent, The mana concentration would make his mana worth more, so less mana was needed to use skills and make rifts, an example was Luna’s mana stone which took thousands of mana to fill it with one because of how concentrated her mana was compared to his.

Thomas Brusilovsky

If im understanding correctly, there are items like those mana compressing potions that scale with each tier and he should be using every time in order to max out his potential. Sure comparatively its like depositing a few extra dollars each year, but with compounding interest he will be much stronger if he uses those items every tier

Enzo Elacqua

I never really thought about Matt leaving the path for some reason. I guess it makes sense story wise, plus it did always bother me how Matt not taking the best mana concentration potions was messing with his potential. Though I gotta say I agree with the Emperor here, Matt may be an honorable man now, but give a couple millennia and that might change, better to let him do as he wants now and become someone who wants to help the empire out of his own desire not out of responsibility.

RottenTangerine

Thanks for the chapter! It'll be interesting to see how Matt and Liz react to Luna trying to kick them off the path. Not sure why she doesn't just wait till T15 and Matt can become the ruler of Lilly. That'd be a decent excuse to step off the path and a good cover story as well.

Lictor Magnus

I get where Luna’s coming from but in the grand scheme of things how much could being on the path possibly hurt him? What’s a few centuries of slower growth to an immortal?

C_Mantis

Yeah its so weird how Pat sometimes takes a minute to drop and other times its on time.

Log Daniels

Wow 2:00 on the dot


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