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Chapter 112

🕑 Added 2022-01-24 20:00:05 +0000 UTC

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Kelraxus

I think the mana concentration issue isnt that others would need to buy the same over-tiered items as Matt, since his max mana doubles each tier, unlike other mages where it would be more gradual, so where a tier 13 mage might need a tier 15 potion, Matt would need a tier 24, due to the absurd requirements in fully draining his mana, which means for other mages the Path isnt restrictive in them not being able to buy the correct item, but that they cant shop ahead.

Mario Morales

They are similar to elite level sports competitors. People wanting to get into the Olympics flock to coaches that have produced Olympians. They subject themselves to all kinds of brutal training regimes in the hopes of achieving that pinnacle that an incredibly small portion of the population gets to. Luna is that coach. Maybe the only one with that record. They haven't burned out yet so they are listening to her and doing what she says. We'll see how that progresses for them.

Amit

Stephen, your reply validates what Aunt Helen said in Chapter 35, that everyone could benefit from mana concentration. Thereby proving that the path has an intentional and major detriment. But I'm very interested in this allocating essence to undo the effects idea. What chapter is that from?

Stephen Weinberg

I think this debate is very well thought out. There being a limited supply of high level mana concentration options makes sense. The more your mana is concentrated by potions, the more essence you can allocate to undoing the bad effects of concentration. For a normal tier 6, it would be crippling. For Matt, it is amazing.

Amit

But why would they? They have quite the zealous respect for the Emperor and the Path itself.

Amit

I think this is a good callout. I want to file this in as.... as a human we don't really understand this in detail so let's just pretend that Aster can perform this supernasal feat. @C. Mantis the point here is the movement of the "dark/damp smell" through the air to where Aster is located. I think most readers are happy to ignore it, but in principle it is a good question.

Amit

Not quite, we were given conflicting statements, look at chapter 35. 1) Mana Concentration does affect normal people's regeneration and capacity, negatively. For Matt, due to the talent the capacity is not affected, but that his regen is not affected by some % is not really explained. Since the regen rate is the heart of his mana's value, I feel this is a rather crucial piece of logic. 2) Aunt Helen, when talking about the mana concentration T32 ingredient "He asked the question he feared. “There isn’t a chance that this is a really cheap part others don’t want, is there?” “Ha! No, sorry dear. Everyone wants it. And you need a higher Tier chef or alchemist to prepare it. Though if you can get more, I’ll happily concoct it for free. You’re family now.” So, despite the tradeoff everyone STILL wants mana concentration.

Uuds

I think everyone else can invest essence into their mana to improve the concentration. Matt can't.

Amelia

I love Luna! She's like your stereotypical Russian ballet teacher - strict, but will push you to realize an even greater potential than you thought possible. I can't help but wonder what corrections were in the two notebooks she threw out related to pooping - "Eat more fiber! Clench less. Don't use so much toilet paper, it's wasteful. Moar efficiency!" ROFL.

Amit

The Path debate seems poorly thought out in that I'm getting C. Mantis is trying to set up some hard decision and use this as a lever. Because the result was determined before the cause it feels less organic. The Path isn't designed to limit future growth. It is designed to foster growth. If the emperor sees it creating an obvious and detrimental limitation, then what is the whole purpose of the Path. Consequently, the mana concentration topic itself seems to be the definition of plot armor, since it is the lever. For people with less mana that would be even a bigger deal than for Matt, no? If that is the case, then mana concentration can be a focus for everyone on the path. I think I have a remedy for this, following Uuds response. If in chapter 35 Aunt Helen says the ingredient is in high demand for *other* reasons, and it is clear that mana concentration overly compromises regeneration speed for other people, then this is solved. I still want to know why this doesn't affect Matt's regen speed, since it should be affecting it by the same % that it hurts others, leading to a net neutral benefit. I could buy it with some math comparing the regen rate of return vs. the % regen effect based on a full mana pool.

Osamaru Ta

They could, and others (read, "most") have done just that. The point is, Luna is the "best".

Dave Woldman

Something about Luna is off putting. couldnt they simply fire her and get new trainers more in line with their goals? Doesnt matter what Luna wants if those on the path dont support it. I hate it when protagonists do not realize their own leverage

Man, the parents are so great. Fantastic characters.

C_Mantis

fixed thanks.

C_Mantis

The camo isnt perfect when they are about to be reviled. And smell is the least obvious thing to change first. Unless you are a beast.

Mario Morales

I loved the zombie rift. That kind of challenge is great for a video game type level. It also made me miss Mr. Vampire. I know he's not officially canon but I'd love to see him show up again.

WigglesDoomius

Kirby suction speed.

Luciaron

Thanks for the chapter

At the speed of smell, of course. Commonly denoted as ‘A’ in math? Kids these days.

Andrew

Thank you!

Stephen Weinberg

How does Aster smell them just before the change? How fast does smell move?

Alexander Hallonblad

Great chapter! You gave them their credits fifteen tiers above their own. - a redundant their? more out of instinct more than any sort of plan - Redundant more? and Aster to scooped it up with her mouth - Extra to

Schmidt

I really cant wait for the day that Matt meets the entire Moore Family

Chad L.

Just a flesh wound. .....

Log Daniels

Thanks for the Chapter!

GoHazard

Thanks for the chapter! I like the part that you added :)

Bobtur

Thanks for the chapter !


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