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Chapter 159

🕑 Added 2022-07-18 19:00:06 +0000 UTC

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ForbiddenPancake

The quip about being too poor to know how money works was savage

Jason

“You can't win in an even fight, so you throw money at the problem? Pathetic.” would have been funny if Quill said "You don't throw money! You spend it!"

ALEXEI

Not a huge fan of a entire arc where Matt has no real power growth while everyone else does. in it for his power story not for him to become a backline support crafter. I realize your probly trying to create a narrative where his team can keep up with him which I get but it went from him being strong frontline with Liz as the backline to her just being better at both while he throws around talismans. As a personal preference I'm not a huge fan, but I love the story which is why I sub by the year haha and ill keep with it to see where it goes.

Yshua

I know that’s a trope, but the character strengths and specific advantages are part of the reason for that. The showing of Quill and Torch just makes everything else more meaningless to me. Instead of highlighting how good Matt and Lizz are it trivializes everyone else and the Path as well. The “we won’t tell you about e.g. bloodlines until you’re Tier 15” nonsense is similarly awkward. It reads to me as clumsy retconning, not crafted conspiracy. Better to play things straight.

John Balman

I forget to mention this last time but like the similarities between Matt and Liz and light and shadow...meet after playpen during tier 4 hooked and clicked them cause a red flag to be investigated then get early management team LoL

Gustavo Claude

It's a strong trope in this type of story: a young master that can fight over levels. I like the part that this is a standard pattern to the genius and not the exclusive characteristic of the MC. I hope that in the future this distance diminish, as it has been said that jump levels in the higher tiers is much more hard. In most stories the author usually forgot this detail

Gustavo Claude

The talismans are a very flexible way to fight. Matt will grow to fight combining this flexibility with his melee counterpart. He is divided in two similar parts: jack of all trades magician with almost infinite recourses and strong swordsman with almost infinite stamina and defenses. Liz is shackled to fight melee, without most of her mid and far range skills and restricted to fire element. His other identity is limited as a caster, unable to show physical resistance, agility and strength in similar levels of the strongest pathers. Her masked identity is much more restrict than matt's.

Yshua

I’m still not enthused by the idea that future Ascenders are so good that they can still top the charts with handicapped misdirection identities. It’s just not holding together for me.

C_Mantis

there will be no new permanent team members. People might come and go but it wont be more than that.

ZaA

I think you missed the point of my post. I wasn't saying Liz isn't OP in her own right or that she won't be able to surpass him in the next few Tiers until they get much later into cultivation. Her powerset and background make her super strong. What I'm saying is that claiming her alias is more restricted is more restricted right now is sort of ridiculous. My subpoint is that if she is able to surpass Matt's strength in single combat in the next few Tiers then, considering the fact that he lacks the escalation of damage with numerous opponents and aoe damage his two partners have, he becomes relegated to becoming a mana battery for the team for awhile until those things are fixed.

Ricky Kukowski

Liz being stronger single combatant makes sense. she has always been better at mana manipulation and has also always hit hard enough to break through Matt's armor. Skill for skill she's always been tougher individually. she started to fall behind but then figured out the potion stuff. before he had mages retreat she her blood doping made her stronger than his cultivation. now with potions and retreats ever diminishing returns it makes sense. now where matt excells will always be endurance. he is endless. his armor stays his strength stays his mana stays. He lasts. so Liz is better against quality and Matt quantity. which does make her aoe and his lack there slightly ironic. it's the path they went for the seeding as well Matt took the most and Liz fought the best.

Mario Morales

I would really like to see a full power fight between Matt and Queen.

SunderGoldmane

I don’t get this kind of forced hype vibe at all. Matt’s going to be industrial level strong. But those are all dependent on different ways of applying that strength. Liz is some kind of Phoenix for christs sake, not expecting her to keep up and eventually come into her own power is kind of ludicrous.

Xaver Klein

would be more personalities to juggle for the author. there is not enough payoff so i think that wont happen.

Obbu

Edit Suggestions: Quill listened for any noise as he readed another talisman array. ->Quill listened for any noise as he readied another talisman array. After all, few things were able to match a dragon in physical might at the same Tier After all, few things were able to match a dragon in physical might at the same Tier.

Alex

I hope not. More people means more people would need to be strong enough to keep up with them. Also their team is already 3 people. Any more and the rift experience is gonna get too low split between all of them. I think they'll make friends and might team up with others for larger missions, but not have anyone formally join their team

StarWolf

More people on their team requires people to be in on Matt's secret.

Nathan

Are they going to get anymore people joining their team?? I thought after the contest that they might get more people for their team.

Enzo Elacqua

I agree but to fair it has been implied that he has been hiding some of his stronger talisman combinations for the finals, which so far we have not reached

SilasDrekken

Agreed. Saying the Torch identity is more limiting than the Quill identity is so insane. Torch's melee weapon is a spear, which Liz is super familiar with, her magic is fire which Liz was intimately familiar with for the first dozen or so years of her life, and she can still use her blood talent internally. Quill is entirely limited to his talisman hobby he picked up in recent years to add a bit of utility to his fighting style. How are these things even comparable?

webolive

That's what mean, Matt is an OP tank hybrid with unlimited Mana worthy of an mc title. From what we have seen so far, except for talisman making, Quill skillset don't synergyze at all, his concept is strong but he never use it with his talisman, same with his talent that he only use for his AI. Quill is strong but not tournament winner strong, I mean Queen would have oneshoted this chapter opponent and he is expected to win this? I really hope he has something more that can give a true edge for this tournament.

ZaA

Probably because he is currently mainly a melee user and is not allowed to display the majority of his skills / strength in that area up to this point since this persona was made to help him get used to fighting as a mage so he can eventually become a hybrid

ZaA

I hear you, what I don't understand though is that implies Matt is the one more limited right now since he is not able to grab any skills currently that allow him to really utilize his talent, on top of the fact that he is not even using his main weapon in his Quill persona. So while Matt will eventually catch up to Liz (and hopefully at some point surpass her since his Talent should be ridiculous in later tiers), for the foreseeable future he will be weaker and mostly relegated to a mana battery for the team since Liz/Aster have always outstripped him in area attacks and now Liz will apparently just be stronger than him in individual strength as well. Doesnt that mean he is more restricted than her, not less?

webolive

Quill feel to weak for Someone who is supposed to win this tournament. He is strong but not OP like Matt.

C_Mantis

its not really that im keeping skills from matt. Its more that the good stuff is gated behind higher Tiers of skills. They will get them and will show them off which will let matt close the distance.

Teatime42

Same, everytime they talk about the two compared to each other, it's like they're trying to convince themselves. They're both strong AF, and as far as brawling goes she has the edge, but his flexibility, endurance, utility and overall strength are just beyond what's reasonable to expect her to outright outshine him. Her skills that allow her to operate at a higher tier than him are just something that's outright denied to him.

C_Mantis

Liz has a lot of stacking buffs which is what they mean. She hits as hard a melee fighter but also is really good with her blood manip. Lizs will start to shine is all.

ZaA

I take issue with Liz being stronger in a few Tiers because she is more restricted now. Aren't they super hard limiting the type of skills Matt is allowed to take right now? He's not even allowed to pick up charged or continuous casting skills that synergizes with his talent/concept because they are afraid he will become too reliant on them. That would be like Luna and Kurt telling Liz not to pick up skills they think would turn into strong blood ones because they don't want her relying on her blood manipulation in case she comes across fights where that won't be an option. At least right now in both identities she gets to use her main weapon. and her fighting style in both identities is focused around the manipulation of elements she excels with in order to attack with that weapon.

Aelia Aeldyne

I'd just change one thing, in one line : "April was shaping up well as well." to "April too was shaping up well.", to avoid the repetition.

Aelia Aeldyne

Thanks for the chapter !


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