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Chapter 204

🕑 Added 2023-01-09 20:00:03 +0000 UTC

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Lorraine V

I wondered if the reflection body parts could be used to replace missing prime parts like Aster's tail and Liz's arm

Kacoo

Wasn't that the planet Matt met Liz on, it wasn't the rifts makeup that was special it was that they hadn't been delved for so long.

Peter Baird

Matt’s teleportation focus must have been cut “cleanly” or “neatly” in half rather than nearly, otherwise he’d have no problem finding the other half

David Stifter

Can we have some fan fiction on these paths :) would be amazing to see the community come up with their own alt lives :) would be an awesome contest best Alt life per character.

Rowsdower

you are correct chapter 172: Things can happen in them which aren’t possible, such as being born in a different Great Power, having a different Talent

Revenice

I could be remembering wrong but aren’t the reflection lives able to be different to the point that you have different Talents.

Conan Whalen-mckain

You should join the discord server. I was checking this out and going to make a post there but ma'am your post is amazing. I am going to post this to the discord as you have definitely thought this out well.

Haikaiko

Getting in on the guessing game! I imagine the mug tells us what the world is like that this Matt experienced, while the tea tells us what Matt himself was like in that world. Like, a shattered cup with a few drops of tepid tea would be a broken environment that he never reached his potential in. - Warm and Homey Mug / Sweetened Imperial Hot Tea (C1) This combo represents a comfortable world where Matt got along by conforming to expectations placed on him. The thing that would calm and comfort Matt the most, would be having his parents still. And the Matt of this world knows / was raised expected to serve the Empire, and once he discovered his Talent he voluntarily chose to become a living mana battery to be used to prevent Rift Breaks (like the one that caused all his friends to lose loved ones, which he feels guilty about since HIS parents survived.) CONCEPT: "I shall never yield." Image of a soldier that gets stabbed and mutilated in an endless cycle, but keeps getting back up. Strongly empowers all buffs, especially defensive or utility. - Fancy Mana-Blue Teacup with Gold Filigree / Rare Silver Rift Tea (C2) This cup represents wealth, which in this world is mana. The tea represents Matt seeing himself as priceless in this world. This is a world where Matt got into a prestigious guild instead of joining the Path, and doesn't have restrictions on how others can help him grow. Which, since the only limiting factor to growth is mana... this Matt is a spoiled rich kid with all the coolest toys. CONCEPT: "Mana is everything." Image of Matt pouring out raw mana, while supplicants approach him to give him priceless gifts in exchange. Secret hubris: one of the approachers is Emmanuel, offering him the entire Empire for his mana. Allows Matt to "spike" his maximum mana in exchange for spiritual strain, and gives him a unique sense that helps him with optimizing his mana usage. - Unadorned Sharp Ceramic Bowl / Subpar Tea (C3) This combo represents a world that is very harsh, into which Matt never reached his full potential. Put simply: in this life, Emmanuel got greedy and decided to shackle Matt for his mana. For the greater good of the Empire, since there is a war looming. This Matt is artificially strong, with every bit of research into mana concentration and cracked skills thrown at him, but never allowed to actually grow as a person. The only reason he went to Minkalla is because he is T14 with no Concept, and Emmanuel decided the risks of the planet were less than the risk of his pet manaling dying before reaching Immortality. CONCEPT: "What I'm here for." Fuzzy image of a black hole with Matt at the center, sucking in objects and people, then later spitting them out stronger. This concept is a Minkalla reward, almost like a bottled concept but stronger. Real Matt instinctively dislikes this one, as it resonates almost entirely opposite with his own core values. Functions as a "normal" internal concept, without anything particularly remarkable about it. - Plain Glass / Golden Iced Tea (C4) This world is remarkably similar to our own. The biggest difference here is Matt himself. This is a solo delver Matt who prides himself on self sufficiency. After he lost Aster in a rift battle, he decided not to join up with Liz, became cold and aloof, works alone so that nobody gets hurt. Except his enemies, who he relishes destroying to prove how strong he is. CONCEPT: "I alone am great." Image of Matt standing relentlessly against the entire world. This concept enhances spiritual strength, to the point that he punches up several Tiers in contests of pure willpower (this Matt had no trouble at T11 in locking down space around the Autumn General, a peak T14 with a burgeoning Intent.) - Pure White Teacup On a Saucer / Bubbling Fragrant Complicated Tea (C5) This tea represents a more innocent world. Matt himself is an exception, straining against the invisible bands. After the Rift Break, rather than corruption and poverty, the governor of the planet personally donated his fortune to help rebuild and compensate. This is a Matt who is grateful, but still conflicted and angry, with no clear target to take it out on. He spends most of his time in rifts, "action therapy" to complement the free therapy he gets as an orphan, attacking the one target that is certainly valid for his unvented hatred -- monsters. And yet, when he discovered his talent for aperology and began to make his own Rifts, he started to wonder if maybe even the monsters aren't as black and white, "always a villain" as he wants them to be. CONCEPT: "I will bottle everything." Ironically, this is a literal "bottle concept." As in, the moment Matt heard of bottled concepts, he had an immediate Inspiration and developed his own concept around being an endless bottle. This concept strongly enhances Matt's dimensionalism skills, such as locking down space, moving between spaces, and to a lesser extent, making rifts more successfully.

C_Mantis

it does. Its upgraded [Reintegration] that doesn't even normal [Reintegration] adds to it

C_Mantis

Matt can teleport with the ring by itself but cant swap with liz cause she got no ring

C_Mantis

which is 10000% fair. As a reader I would do the exact same thing. Which is why i'm putting them out the way I am. Same logic applies to why I rarely do cliff hangers.

C_Mantis

That was a funny one but thats also why I made to to make clear these lives aren't real.

C_Mantis

@Matthew Baird all good. It leads to discussion and thats always fun. Look we got cool math out of it. And yes mana stones are what are keeping teams full between fights. I thought that was obvious and that you were only talking about IN the fights. My bad. Hope things are clearer now

DanielJ

I just remembered, don't the team have Lesser Regeneration? Does that add to the healing cooldown? Because for some reason I thought it didn't, and would have helped with all of that...fully acknowledging I could be completely mis-remembering.

Matthew Baird

So I need to go back in time and not post this comment :-/. After re-reading the story I realized there is an easy way to get mana back by using mana stones and/or a personal mana converter. This is obviously a huge waste of money and resources but if you need the mana it’s better than dying.

Violet

To be fair, it's pretty tenuous math built on some potentially incorrect assumptions. After all, if the 'core' of Minkalla isn't of equivalent height to the infrastructure between each layer of Minkalla, then the ratios I'm using are completely wrong. And if the size of layers isn't constrained by a function of the available spherical surface-area, the entire exercise is pointless.

Nanooki12

How does anyone keep growth items for a long time. It seems that they are rare and just as vulnerable as anything. Everyone fighting someone else would just target the items. And since growth items are rare ish soon no growth items are left.

Clint

I'd guess there will be one with Matt's parents alive -- perhaps in this one he's not motivated to delve and ends up coming to Minkala as an old lvl-14 with no concept. Another where he never got Aster (either he did the smart thing and exited the rift challenge when he saw the orc, or that healer smashed Aster's egg) -- he ends up more of a loner and far more jaded, especially if the egg was smashed. I'd love to see one where he joins Melinda's team, way back in the Playpen. His defense and mana regeneration and her healing with no cooldown would be unstoppable. They could just sit and grind through rifts. If they skipped things like tournaments, there would be no risk at all of other powers discovering them and they could rocket through the Path in record time. The "gilded cage" alternate life is an important one for him to see, since it's one of his driving fears. That version of Matt might even end up in Minkala as a weak lvl 14 with lvl 14 bodyguards trying to get him through the 4th level to get his concept. Most interesting would be to see what kind of person Matt might have become if he'd grown up in the Sects...

Revenice

Wow I was not expecting someone to math out what the average encounter rate should be. Impressive 👍

Tristan R Mitchell

IIRC, he also has a copy of side slide in his outer spirit.

Nicolas Maganto

I seriously hope for you that you 26k words and not works cause that would take some time.... XD otherwise their other lives should get them something in reward if they get theaximum reward (i think i remember they get a little bit of all the effects they developped throughout their reflected lives in their concepts ?). As for finishing as a tier eleven they should get even better rewards right ?

Dominic French

True enough Im just thinking it would be a good way to begin making one or two of them deeper characters for the story down the line rather than mindless indoctrinated super soldiers

Matthew Baird

Yeah but you have to remember they have been indoctrinated with a tier 50 talent. Obviously it’s up to the author if any of them have good reasoning skills and can overcome their brainwashing, but even if one of them does they still have to worry about their team mates. If they show any disloyalty there is a good chance they’ll quickly be killed.

Thibault Sabini

Thanks for the reply! As for matt, i suppose his ring power was still working even though its cut in half?

Rowsdower

Aster got the skill Side Slide a few chapters ago. thats the one Annie got during the pather war thats a short distance teleport with a 2 minute cooldown

Thibault Sabini

Just curious, how can aster teleport? Same with matt if his ring is broken? I feel like i missed something

Obbu

Edit Suggestions: the target would be close enough to easily wrest control of the opposing spell with their own ->the target would be close enough to easily wrest control of the opposing spell with their own (double space) In the instant before her arm tore, she wretched herself away, ->In the instant before her arm tore, she wrenched herself away, but had never drank before as it was nearly extinct ->but had never drunk before as it was nearly extinct

Cora

It's a seed that increases air manipulation and helps with movement skills.

Moonspike

I appreciate that the lives won't be dragged on too long. I don't mind reading about them a lttile bit but that much time spent on something like this would have been excessive and caused me to drop the story to build up a backlog. A couple of long chapter's and then back to progressing the plot though should be fine.

Se7enworlds

I've been looking forward to the alt lives chapters since this this floor was announced so I am hyped!

Vega

Every time I read a book thst has a character undergo multiple lives. I think back to issth and meng hao going through his reincarnations. In one of his incarnations he is the younger brother of a clan heir with a valuable bloodline. And his parents were like your only worth is to spread your bloodline, and the reincarnation doesn’t throw a fit, or fight it. He just goes ok and goes absolutely wild, like his brother is absolutely terrified/creeped out by him because of how seriously he takes his “duty”. This embarrasses the original so much that he wakes up and gets the reincarnation smited iirc.

Tucker Glick

I think I speak for everyone. No complaints about long chapters haha.

Shukketsu

Before even touching the Chapter proper: I could not care less if the lives are "not real" or "real" and if a chapter is double length it can count as a double chapter regardless of content Imho, so THANK YOU for cranking out this ridiculous number of words for basically free but don't feel forced to do it again in the future

John Warren

The ceramic bowl with the sharp edges made me think it is a life where he gave into his anger over what happened to his family.

Lacrimosa

When I got to the part that said TLDR I had to stop because I was laughing so hard. The reason is a old guildie would always say “TLDR, instructions unclear dick in toaster”. Happens every time I see that abbreviation

Violet

They've been largely keeping ahead on floor 6. Floor 4 allowed teams to catch up with them, but they've been re-opening the gap. That said, there are some teams that can keep up with their pace for other reasons and as the floors become smaller due to the shrinking radius of each floor, the space available to the teams that can keep up with them decreases accordingly based on the SA function of a sphere of 4pi(r^2). If we assume that each floor is roughly the same height, the difference between floor 1 and floor 7 is 615.75 cubic height units to 12.57 cubic height units, or roughly 49 times (if you need further proof, note that the 4pi portion of the function cancels out, so the ratio is 7^2/1^2 or 49/1) . As a result, if we consider the set of teams that can keep pace with the party to be of relatively constant size (a somewhat tenuous assumption, but bear with me) then the rate of encounter should, over the course of Minkalla increase that same 49 times. The difference between floor 5 and floor 6 is 9/4 or 2.25. That means that, at in theory, the party should be encountering about twice as many teams on floor 6 as they did on floor 5 and should expect an increase in encounter-rate on floor 7 of four times over their encounter rate on floor 6. if their encounter rate is less than that, you should consider that to be a sign that the set of teams that can keep up with them is shrinking either due to the party's consistent speed or due to elimination (which the party has avoided).

Matt H

I can understand how other groups would have enough for a fight, but how are they maintaining the same pace as Matt's group? Matt's group has more mana throughput, allowing them to fight more frequently (as we saw with how they could delve multiple rifts in a day when most groups would delve every other day) AND they need less total GE to advance and get their rewards. I get that Courtly Warfare destroyed any sort of lead they had, but they don't seem to be gaining a lead again on floors 5 and 6 since they keep encountering people.

C_Mantis

Mostly because the fights we see are short. Mana generally takes 1.5 days to refill from full but that would be a stupid amount to chose if they couldn't get through a single fight without running out of Mana. As we see longer engagement we'll see more of it. Also I'll note tbag to show in the chronicles

Matt H

I've had the same thought, especially on the Taxing Skills floor. We would hear about how Matt & co. would need to ration their skill usage, but their enemies would seem to be operating at 100%. I suppose you could make the argument that we are only shown those who pose an actual challenge, so those who were properly rationing their skills and mana usage. Also, maybe everyone else in Minkalla is burning through a bunch of mana stones to help maintain a similar pace and throughput to what Matt's group is achieving? Although if that's the case, it feels like that somewhat trivializes Matt's talent and concept to just "saving them some money on buying mana stones".

Galaxyace1

I appreciate your work! I look forward to Mondays and Wednesdays every week as I enjoy your story and universe so much.

Dr. Redbush

What’s the Talaria Seed? I either forgot or completely missed that.

adam1

It came up with the Talaria Seed that they'd be splitting up after Minkalla. The Path rules for ascending solo vs grouping up aren't super clear. Melinda and team joined the Path as a team, but Matt and Liz grouped up after they were both on the Path solo.

Ricky Kukowski

doesn't really seem like it to me. I know originally she wasn't going to, and often she feels just a bit separate from the group. they're trying to not make it that way but the effort is evident

Violet

Also, if none of the lives reveal them living in the Empire, that might raise some suspicions, too. After all, Vergil told them that they were experimented on by the Imperials.

Violet

I am very, very excited to see these alternate lives, and the teacup metaphor just made me more excited. For my own purposes and to empower reader speculation, here's a bulleted list of the six teacups, from left to right, if I'm reading things right: - 'Homey' mug of sweet-smelling tea ('normal' black tea served hot) - 'Fancy' teacup with gold filigree (cold tea) - Endless Mana Blue 'fancy' teacup (bubbling, fragrant, complex, maybe-orchid tea? - could be a different cup) - Unadorned ceramic bowl with sharp edges (maybe the rare, rift-made tea with silver stuff swimming in it? - no real reason to believe it is this one, but had to put it somewhere) - 'plain' glass with golden iced tea. - Pure white teacup on a saucer All of the descriptions of the teas themselves is me speculating regarding which teacup they are associated with, but I think I have the first two right, at any rate? Matt is drinking from the 'homey' mug of normal imperial tea, served hot. Speculation-wise, I think the first tea is a world in which Matt's parents lived or he somehow otherwise came to live a 'normal' life. Perhaps it isn't Tier 14 like the others because Matt never reaches Tier 14 in that life? Although I thought all worlds were supposed to be ones where the person entered Minkalla, which would tend to contradict that assumption. Alternatively, it may reflect a Matt whose Concept was related to family or home. The fancy, gold-filigree teacup with cold tea sounds like it may be from a life where Matt joined a guild or otherwise found himself in the golden-cage he fears. Same for the one the same shade as his mana. If the tea with silver things in it is in the sharp, ceramic bowl, perhaps that's a world where Matt focussed on aperology? Alternatively, particularly if that tea isn't in the bowl, perhaps the sharp bowl is from another Great Power. I've got nothing on the last two. Maaaybe the pure white teacup is some 'unaspected' Concept?

Matthew Baird

This story has made such a big deal about Matt never running out of mana. Why don’t our heroes ever run into groups who have exhausted their mana? It seems like this shouldn’t be a super uncommon occurrence. Maybe this could be a way for them to overcome the Federation group number superiority? Just a thought.

Thomas Brusilovsky

Very very excited for the upcoming chapters! This one was great are I am once again stuck waiting for Friday :(

Fleetpanda

It really depends on what lives they’re shown. If they see something like being born and raised in another faction or a life where they see through the indoctrination then there’s a chance.

Dr. Redbush

This is off-topic, but is Susanne going to be sticking around with Matt and Liz after Minkalla? I feel like we’ve invested a lot of time getting to know her that she should be part of the team permanently now. ;)

Dominic French

I wonder if the folded reflections help increase a person's empathy and decrease the effectiveness of cultlike indoctrination from those federation guys

Pixelblade

Here. We. Go!

Azulmar

Looking forward to all the words! Also feeling so bad for the team. I hope they get a week of Melinda's healing after then a few months vacation

Kacoo

That is a really intriguing way to present the lives. I had wondered how you were planning that. I quite like it, only that I now have to go back and theorise what they mean 😔 all I've got so far is a rift builder Matt, a mana battery Matt and a some sort of unsuccessful version of Matt

John Warren

pretty excited to see these alternate lives and the final floor!

Herbwick

Take your time and expand upon whatever you feel is worth it. If we have read this far we obviously love what you write. Even if some of us are getting impatient for the type of qualitative power up we were expecting from minkalla.

C_Mantis

I'm recharged from my break so really I just might need a little planning period with the beta readers is all so the next arc is nice and tightly planned out.

C_Mantis

Idk if I could go on hiatus. Even my one week break I was getting itchy wanting to write lol.

Fleetpanda

Looking forward to seeing the other lives! I wouldn’t say they don’t matter. They aren’t vital to the story, but they’re cool bits of world building and it adds flavor to the new abilities they’re getting! Also that comment about a growth item floor seven has me worried haha let’s go Blood is Thicker!!! Wooo (feels like I’m rooting on a racehorse with these floor selections)

yannick schwende

Thanks for the notice. I am looking forward to the reflection chapters. I love your story. If you find that you need some time off after those beefy chapters please do so, your health is important.

Andrew Pritko

Thank you!!!!!

Max Levigion

Havent Reader the chapter yet. But oh boy was there a big smile creeping up my face. Thanks for writing your butt off !!!!

Luciaron

When you said the next AN would be long I got scared that you would be going on hiatus and instead we got extra long chapters haha! I’m sure it’ll be fun to read some alternate timelines.


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