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Chapter 207 (2/2)

🕑 Added 2023-01-20 20:04:00 +0000 UTC

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Lorraine V

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Arlano

I was just thinking that since Matt has this new Halo, and Liz is this scary fire and blood spearfighter, their Ascender names could be Angel&Imp, Hallowed&Demoness or something. I don't know how to put Aster in that tho. Humm, is religion a thing in the Empire now that I think about it?

Kain

Ok so just a guess on Liz’s awakening she was a massive little shit when she thought she was gonna get fire. Like insufferably vain and full of herself classic noble kid kinda thing and because Leon and Mara are birdbrains they don’t really notice or care about it. Getting blood instead shattered her view of herself and made it so she had to rebuild her mental image of herself from the ground up, she still has supportive parents and they take notice and help and she turns out much better for it in the end. Without that shattering fire Liz remained a massive asshole and does classic evil noble things which is why she’s so upset by that life.

Kain

Just for the monster house memes I want hills have eyes lol

Tyler

It'll be another POA side story mini arc :P

Rowsdower

that was the floor 2 theme challenge so around 180ish

Mario Morales

The condensing of mana for the detonation concept reminded me of the experiment Matt ran in one of the previous floors where he condensed the mana down to make a rift or something. Anyone remember what it was for or what chapter it was so I can go back and check it out?

Drebee

I assume with combination of "this is my mana" and "detonation" , Matt can fix his mana density cultivation problem.

MikeL

They have mentioned that bandage should work well here. I’m curious is Liz’s bandage blood version [Scab] might be even better.

Clint

I think "It's my Mana" is like the reverse of his real Concept -- it lets him leech mana from enemies.

Tommy

Will we have a therapy arc after Minkalla, where they all go to psychologists and stuff for a year or so to recover from the trauma? Or maybe be better to roll it up into some montage moments as they do work with rifts and healing their psyches over a few chapters… Liz def needs some serious down time after her floor 6 experience

Tommy

Hills have eyes would be good for a talking house!

Thomas Todd

Would Blood is Thicker give Liz a chance to alter her bloodline from fire to blood? Make her a blood phoenix

Clint

Something involving a lot of blood, I'd imagine.

Luciaron

These chapters were a lot of fun. Now I'm really curious what's the source of Liz's trauma that seems beyond just not being able to prove herself in her parents shadows.

Anonymonous

The mana thing is easily explained by people carrying huge numbers of Mana stones. Not everyone in Minkalla is from the path. It wouldn't be hard for some elites to enter with zillions of Mana in Mana stones sponsored by someone in a higher tier Then there's courtly warfare. There were millions in tha floor burning their lead Then you've got to realise that Matt and Liz are essentially doing a 100% run of Minkalla. Not everyone is. All the level end challenges are unnecessary unless you want the extra reward and that means you need less genesis energy. I suspect there are several teams that are doing an any% speedrun to get the final reward Also, I'm sure there are lots of people with seeker talents that'll let them delve really deep. Maybe they get challenges and ruins with the highest generaos energy rewards, maybe they get the optimal pth to save time. And finally there are several people from path equivalents in t12 and t13 who are all strong and have their own advantages. More than a billion people entered Minkalla. Is it really surprising that there are people a the same depth as them. In fact it's incredible that there are so few as the same depth as them. Instead of asking how everyone else is keeping up with them, the question is how t11s such as them are keeping up with everyone else

Lacrimosa

Each will have their own powers/skills/concepts to push the limits

Lacrimosa

At this point they are competing against people in their own skill tier. All of the great powers have strong people that are on their own powers version of the path. The path and whatever the other powers call it are the top 1% of the age/tier those left at this point are basically the top 1% of that

Wrathwind

How the heck are people matching there speed/ outpacing them??? Seriously I know they took a week to recover from there last pvp fight but really they need way less energy to move on and no mana stops idk how this many people are keeping up/ahead of them.

Wrathwind

Concept additions List Matt: “good food takes time” (enhances ingredient effects), “ability to pass off both his physical cultivation to others, along with a small portion of his mana regeneration”, “Internal Concept that boosted his body to incredible heights”, “It’s my Mana.” (Able to take back what he has given?), “Always Preparing” (allowing Matt to change the aspect of his enchantments and even move mana between talismans he’d made), “Detonation” (“He could constrain his mana in the area around him, building it up and compressing it with his will. Then, once he was ready, he could unleash it in a massive detonation that not only could destroy just about anything of his Tier, but melted even higher-tier runes and enchantments in a wide area.”) Aster: Fire concept (able to freeze fire?), “ability to ‘freeze’ a moment in her memory, then apply it to her art”, “She even had a Concept which she had practiced manipulating objects with.” (External manipulation concept?), “Concept…. about making her as strong as possible, turning her fur to literal ice and using it as a way for her Talent to leverage its might against her own flesh”, Feral concept?, illusion concept Liz: “blood was her” (blood empowers glyphs or better control of blood?), Fire concept?, “Power Through Blood” (“could seriously boost the bloodline of her and any willing participants close to her”), blood contract concept, (blood warrior concept?), blood-born illness/decay-rot concept Susanne: “I am what I made me.” (Extra depressing Introspection?), (sect life) ability to stretch and shrink her blade in any way she chose, “Concept to boost the power of blades around her” (wind hyena), shield concept, “sword sheath” (Being the sword, can hide swords inside her body to benefit from their enchantments) , animated sword (quill?) concept

KingGoomba

Personally, Blood is Thicker seems to be the most obvious Floor 7 because it fits so well for them except Liz. But Wasteland would be amazing for Matt and Liz. I would love to see World of Cardboard or Self-Identity as floor 7.

MikeL

I have thought that their wedding will be when they reach T25 and finish the path. Perfect moment to have their friends and family around for.

Lorevi Q

Mana cooking, talisman buff, physical support buff

David Dorelus

The last floor could also be mind over matter. It would synergize really well with what they just finished this floor.

Craig

So what is the list of additional aspects to the teams’ concepts? Matt: explosive mana, taking mana back, infusing mana over time for more effect, ???, ???, ???

Phillip Hunsicker

All Paupers is my vote but i think they will get something like World of Cardboard

Revenice

The brainwashing was implemented with the talent of a tier 48+ I don’t think they are breaking it on mass no matter what happens. I do think it would be cool to see one or two break free before this arc ends though.

sambee

How big is Aster and has she attained her adult size or will she continue growing bigger?

Gjim

I enjoyed this mini " what if" arcto see what the characters lives could have been. Will we get to see the spin off series Suzanne Librarian Extraordinaire? Still crossing my fingers for the key they found on the second floor to unlock the 8th level bonus floor.

JRØ

Or Self identity, since everyone gets the perfected more then perfect body at floor 7, and since they can enchant themself, with Matts mana and enchanting it would be a major boost

Nicolas Maganto

I serioudly think they are not going to try for the bonus (the 10men killsquads) as they are here for killing not getting rewards.. they were told how to live from the moment they woke up and were fed misinformation so i hope they don't have what it takes to wake up each and every time if they do try to get the bonus reward

Nicolas Maganto

Plus I don't think the bandage skill is widely spread yet to the other powers

Nicolas Maganto

No regen or healing plus many many weaker mobs capable of suicide tactics to injure juste a little. Reward is three times more healing from concept or added healing effect to concept if it didn't have such

Charles Simon

Blood is thicker - has been explicitly called out as only useful for Matt as a floor 7 and aster had some foreshadowing hoping for it!

Charles Simon

My personal guess for the last floor is ‘blood is thicker’. It’s the only floor that perfectly fits all the characters objectives and it was explicitly called out at the start as one that would only be useful for Matt as a floor 7. Aster and Liz get bloodline upgrades, Matt gets Arcane mana and Suzanne Void is my theory.

Mashiara

Sińce we were about to move to the last Floor of Minkalla, here’s a quick summary I made of all the Floors. I started doing this prior to Courtly Warfare to keep track of Stuff 1st floor - Eternal Darkness Challenge room: Ants vs Elephants Challenge room: Essential Civilization Exit Challenge: Catching butterlies and shadow monsters Reward: Spiritual Perception is improved. On the first floor, it slightly increases resolution and adds faint additional feedback, such as color perception. By the seventh floor, it returns almost perfect, detailed feedback on everything within its range and is substantially better at bypassing any blocks. 2nd Floor - Genesis Cultivation Challenge: Unnamed (Something with penguins and vomit?) Exit Challenge: Make own genesis Reward: On floor one, the most recent Tier of essence that’s been cultivated is converted to something similar to Genesis Energy, enhancing all aspects of cultivation, but particularly in the stacking bonus that comes with cultivating the same areas for multiple Tiers. By floor seven, not only is all essence converted to Genesis Energy, but the effect lingers until Tier 16. 3rd Floor - Back to basics Challenge: Escort Mission Exit Challenge: Survive in unnamed wilderness for at least 6 months at Tier 0 Reward: Concepts empowering the body become stronger, or if the Concept doesn't do so, it begins to. On floor seven, it's a full second very strong Concept, or the original is about three times as strong if it was able to empower the body before. 4th Floor - Courtly Warfare Exit Reward: upgrade growth item Reward: A growth item gains a new effect. For the first floor, it mostly seems to accelerate when the growth item would get new abilities. Instead of Tier 25 where a growth item would gain a new effect, now the effect is unlocked before then and shifts all the upgrades the item would get corresponding down by the same margin. By floor seven it adds a completely separate set of powers which grow at the same rate as the original growth power. In addition, Boons are available to the winning side. 5th Floor - Taxing Skills Exit Challenge: Clear 25 monster waves using fałse bodies, breakable Equipment and limited spells Reward: Gain bonus skill slots. On floor 1, this is two extra Inner skill slots and five extra Outer skill slots, effectively one Tiers worth in total. By floor seven, it grants an extra four Core skill slots, thirty Inner skill slots, and one hundred Outer skill slots, slightly more than doubling the current skill slots available to a Tier 14. 6th Floor - Folded Reflections Challenge: Careful What You Wish For Exit Reward (?) : 6 alternative lives and concepts Reward: Experience a number of other lives equal to the floor depth, change your Concept to one of them, or fold their effects into your current Concept.

Echohunter

I feel like at least one of them would get some sort of concept boost that lets them fight off the brainwashing.

Nathan Sto

Nah, Mantis already stated they're not getting another permanent member of the party, and he tends to plan things out pretty far in advance. Plus, we've already done the "grow a team member from childhood" before. It's nearly certain to be the bloodline one at this point. The foreshadowing is too heavy for it to be otherwise, and since it helps Matt as well as the girls, it's a good choice for the reader base as well. That said, I thought the skill upgrade one would be amazing, and no matter what happens I'll be sad if it doesn't happen. A part of me does long for the house to become sentient as well. (Hungry house. Always goes and eats other houses when they're not looking. Good house).

Anonymonous

Also made him kill his girlfriend

mag28

This is my prediction for the last for and its kinda specific. I will either be close to what happens and I can say I called it before it happens. Or I'll look like a fucking idot, I'm cool with either baby So Wasteland jinx was a misdirection and its actually gonna be Spirit Journey. Boom they get there and action starts right away and eventually floor turns into a bloodbath. The group has 2-5 fights some longer and better than others(rematch with blood fist idk). But they make it out of them relatively fine and healthy with pretty good amount of genesis energy for everyone. Then near the end they run into the brainwashed group and get into a fight. Susanne is put into a bad situation were she can get away from the fight safely or she has to tier up to fight for/defend/save either Liz and/or Aster. She does and they win but because the prize on the floor cost so much energy they don't have enough for all 4 to get prize. But with the original trios energy combined together they have enough for 2 but instead they they get one(between Matt Liz aster) and give the excess to Susanne so she can get one too. Technically they could say and try to collect more energy but they take that as good enough because they don't want to got around killing random people.

Mothman

I really enjoyed these chapters. They were well done. That being said, I agree with your decision to post them in large chunks like this. As much as I enjoyed them, if I'd been forced to read today's posts over 2 weeks instead... that would have ruined my enjoyment.

Chemnerd263

I have loved these folded reflections, even the ones where things go wrong. Some of them have made me laugh, others have made me cry, some seemed over too soon. I'm glad you pushed to get through them so quickly, because I might have had a different opinion if they lasted much longer, but if you hadn't gone into at least this much detail, any reward and boost to their concepts would have seemed unearned. Thabk you for your amazing work, and I hate you for making me look forward to a Monday. Keep being awesome!

Josh Bullock

Thank you for the last four chapters! I know some people didn't like them, but I loved the change of pace and style. Maybe not the most exciting chapters you've written in terms of action but really enjoyable nonetheless. Any chance of getting a side chapter in the future to go into some of Liz's lives? I know you want to get back to the main story but the different ideas you had for their lives were fascinating and I now want to know what has her so traumatized.

wanderer117

typo hunter report What was a few more months of work in exchange for spiting the people who’d ruined everything? should be What was a few more months of work in exchange for spiting on the people who’d ruined everything? When Matt reached Tier 5, they grabbed onto his Talent and the possibilities it provided. should be When Matt reached Tier 3, they grabbed onto his Talent and the possibilities it provided.

mag28

I'm torn because because Spirit Journey sounds like the coolest reward, but Wasteland adding healing would be most useful useful if I'm being honest. But my guess is probably gonna be Wasteland. This me making a prediction that idk if it will happened but I wanted to just call it now. If it is Spirit Journey 2 members of the group need to tier up to Tier 12 so they don't have enough genesis energy for all 4 members to floor reward. If that happens my guess would be Matt Liz and aster get one between them(something to act as tank so Matt can move more towards mage) and Susanne gets one. Also it would be cool/sweet parting gift if the original trio pool there "extra" genesis energy to help Susanne because her roads "harder" if you know what I mean

MikeL

Unskilled was the one floor I was betting they would get. It’s not just an upgrade it’s upgrades however they want them. CPA with all the mana he could pump into it and invisible. CMS with no strain so we can pump any mana amount. Even better a healing spell with overhealth, how is that not what everyone wants.

C_Mantis

<3

C_Mantis

and @StarWolf yeah not everyone will like em. but its over now so it should be back to what you are used to

C_Mantis

"rip through the brainwashing of any Federation teams that have made it this far.:" See I disagree as anything they get shown would be written off as Minkalla being evil. People who are brain washed aren't really prone to believing when told the truth. It just drives them further into the cult or what have you.

C_Mantis

we werent but thats more cause not much is know about it as its so long ago. Millions of years. Even aunt helen wasnt alive at that time. shes a few generations after the shattering

Anon

That seems to be what should happen to me, but I doubt it will. They've been built up too much to be a future threat to have them defect now. I'd enjoy being wrong though.

Josh

Unskilled doesn't give an innate skill slot it is the upgrade a skill. The innate skill slot is the exit reward for floor 7. They already have 2 upgrad orbs they have yet to use so I don't see Unskilled being that great

Anon

That seems likely. I've always pictured the gang appearing outside Minkalla more than half dead, but triumphant.

Maakolo

I dont think we were told that the king at the time was called a God-King, right?

alex bozdog

Personally I am hoping for Spirit Journey, though I know it is the least likely, if for no other reason than that adding a whole 3 characters to the main cast, which is what would happen if Liz Matt and Aster get that reward.

StarWolf

I agree without a doubt these last few chapters have been my least favorite of the 207 chapters.

C_Mantis

correct. that shattering turned into the current great powers

Daniel Smith

It depends on if that no regeneration extends to mana too. If it does then Matt's concept and talent would allow them to destroy the floor.

Daniel Smith

I'm kind of hoping for Unskilled, tho Matt's talent and concept should allow them to regenerate mana in Wasteland

Obran

I have a minor / major issue with these past few chapters. These various lives, showing what could have been and what is will undoubtedly rip through the brainwashing of any Federation teams that have made it this far. I mean, consider the effect on Liz and Matt,and now imagine that your life has been constructed through forced surgery and brain washing.

Clint

So what Floor Theme are we hoping for, for the seventh and final floor of Minkala? Unskilled? (An innate skill slot would be incredible.) Blood is Thicker? (Arcane Mana for Matt, and bloodline improvements for Liz and Aster) Wasteland? (Matt jinxed it. And Endless Healing would be spectacular.) Spirit Journey? (I love the reward, but we've just had Folded Reflections, and another introspective character study sequence would be too much.) Given the jinx, it's probably Wasteland -- which is going to be an utterly brutal bloodbath with other cultivators, but Liz and Aster will be very effective against swarms, and Bandage will be a literal lifesaver.

M van Dongen

Spirit Journey would be nasty for Liz right now.

Xander Cadence

Thanks for the chapters but I am glad these are over. I am ready for progress

Maakolo

Both Mikel and Bob are wrong. Its when they get their first bit of essence and go from Tier 0 to Tier 1. Its also when they get their T1 Talent and maybe this is when a spirit becomes a motive spirit?

M van Dongen

It'll be Wasteland. What does that one do ?

John Warren

where had we seen the shattering before these chapters? was it the shattering of the previous Great Power?

C_Mantis

I feel you which is why it was over quickly.

C_Mantis

added ty

Gray Fullbuster

It was nice and hopefully will follow up with some good growth in the characters along with power as well. I can't wait for Matt and Liz to get married I'm actually going to cry will be so sweet. I hope that we will get to see them when there older or even ascend together tho may be a while

yannick schwende

Though I don't agree, I can understand your opinion. Sum of these lives are just brutal and invoke a feeling of disgust (really well written to manage that). Due to that, the negativity of those lives can overshadow the rest, which I think is the reason why one might feel glad it's over.

Schmidt

Just a note it didnt mention Liz's 6th life with her being a bloodline researcher. Is that because it relates to the Awakening thing or just missed it?

hannibal

I am glad this floor is over. I can’t discribe why but I just don’t like the alternative life’s. I know it has its place l. I just don’t enjoy them.

yannick schwende

Yeah, that was a really good way to make a terribly mean and annoying chapter. Can't even say it's bad because of just how well written it is and how nice some other stuff is. Damn. I tip my hat to you Mantis. That was beautifully brutal and disturbing in just the right ways.

C_Mantis

naaa all good. Talking about this stuff is cool.

Bob Bryan

True and thanks for the comment. Just want to say that wasn't an attack on you, just questioning in book thinking, especially with how hard Liz was hit

C_Mantis

well its called folded reflections after all. A reflection is about yourself at its base. So it will take, magnify, and then twist what you fear or hope for to make you stronger.

Merc715

Being near the healing cooldown limit and having absolutely no healing is different. At least with the healing cooldown, they can hole up somewhere and wait for the cooldown to expire a bit and heal up. With absolutely no healing, that option is gone. And what happens if they run into other cultivators that want to fight? As seen before, it's pretty much impossible to fight other elite cultivators without taking any wounds. And taking wounds on such a floor would snowball into failure with no way to recover.

Bob Bryan

I don't think it's minkalla and I think the people in this story named this floor wrong. It feels like this floor shows them things that are tied to their hopes and fears and Liz probably has a lot od fears due to her future awakening. Aster not so much. Matt was told the emperor's fater would act like that, thus his greatest fear. Plus there was the story about the young man whose sister was assaulted and killed by a noble and there was no punishment. So I don't think this floor shows alternative lives in the same sense they believe it does.

Fleetpanda

Yeah, there are a few who feel the need to end every single chapter with a cliff. It’s a good tool, but if it’s every chapter it’s beyond frustrating. Mantis is good about it.

Barkeep

Pretty sure minkalla likes foxes and has a hate boner for blood mages. Like aster seems to keep getting nice things like the ice cream bunnies or the winter floor and such. Minkalla definitely playing favorites.

Barkeep

Idk. They are so far I to their healing cooldown would a floor not letting them heal be that diffrent? Also. Imagine if mats concept of "I am endless" got a healing addition. Or Elizabeth's blood concept gets her healing super charged? Would definitely make her torch close combat persona harder to kill. I think it would def not be the worst floor to get.

Fleetpanda

They can get healing from other sources. The other floor rewards are far far far more unique and powerful.

BeepBoop

No healing? Then they should hope for it, considering they already at the limit of healing cooldowns.

Robin Richards

Two things. First I think that would supercharge some aspects of Matt's concept and wouldn't be the worst thing. Second, he said that out loud. They are totally jinxed now and are guaranteed to get Wasteland.

MikeL

Anyone remember any foreshadowing about her awakening? All I remember is that she asked her mother to go into monarch mode to address it. Also there was a chapter during the war were they all had weird dream when then died.

Bob Bryan

What aster went through to go from ice fox to winter fox to eventually aurora fox to Krystal from star fox. The bloodline thingy.

MikeL

When she got her 1st tier skill.

Rielgesh

What's an Awakening again?

MikeL

At least C_Mantis is pretty good about this. This really is the first one I remember.

JoshCalmick

What a chapter. Thank you again for this gift. What a fun last few chapters

Tommy

Thanks for the chappy! 👍👍

Tommy

Doing heroic work! Thank you :)

TheKillerNormie

Minkalla: "Matt, maybe my challenges cannot kill you, but I can kill your girlfriend mind health"

Adurna

That sums it well. Good chapter

Merc715

Just to save everyone a trip back to ch173 to see why they hope they don't get wasteland as the final floor: Wasteland: No healing or regeneration. Monsters are numerous, weak, and frequently pack monsters, often willing to use suicide tactics to deal even the slightest injury. Reward: Concepts that aid in healing, regeneration, or repairing are enhanced, up to a three times empowerment by floor seven. Those which did not have an aspect along that theme have it added.

Bob Bryan

Thanks for the chapter, but also f u for the chapter.

Vega

Man, minkalla really doesn’t like Liz. Like holy shit

Teatime42

God fucking damn that cliffhanger! XD

Cora

Wow. That's all I got. Just wow.


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