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Chapter 208

🕑 Added 2023-01-23 20:00:03 +0000 UTC

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SodaBoBomb

Sigh....once again Mat's abilities on paper are the most boring. But then I'm not a fan of tank/defensive styles in the first place.

Fortunis

Damn dude, well done.

Havokk

seriously took a tier 45 dagger to the heart when Aster said "I miss them too"

Jason Hardman

I'm not crying... my eyeballs are sweating 😭 (scene with Matt and Aster remembering their parents)

Alessan

Way too many italics kept jarring me out of the chapter. Less (or none!) in the future please.

Kain

Interesting idea for the mana drain is that it could possibly give Matt access to more of his mana pool during a fight. Before to use most of his mana pool he needed mana stones, cause his regen after a few % becomes horrifyingly slow, now if he works out how to drain ambient mana and it becomes basically free after this floor all he needs is a little time on his own, so he can safely deactivate his buffs, to fill up his mana pool by a decent chunk giving him access to more high initial cost spells. Or he can just add some gravy on top of his already insane generation and channel it into his buffs either way great power up

Hobbity Bobbity

Last floor was a huge power up. Wonder how much danger there is from other delvers e.g. susanne can't even move, only wiggle. Maybe others are also not combat capable

MinE

Their enchantments fueled by mana, so it could go either way. Either removing the limitation of their bodies or disabling them.

Domy

Didn’t Matt gain a willpower boost for his AI? Does this floor reward become mega OP for him?

Robin Richards

This cycle of Minkalla is pretty well rounded. First descenders who manage to hit all the floor rewards can expect a minor but noticeable improvement to spirit sense. A solid improvement to their lowest cultivation tiers, an improved growth item, substantial additional skills and an extremely flexible and efficient concept. No single aspect of their cultivation ends up completely overpowered though with two deep concept floors and a third concept floor earlier in the run Concepts do come close. Instead like Khan from Star Trek they are simply better at everything.

Wrathwind

The ability let’s her freeze any one thing (like a ranged attack) that’s how it got ‘translated’ to her real life

Wrathwind

Don’t forget Mind over matter also “makes it substantially easier to explore and push your Concept further”. This is a great 7th floor

jam

Wasn't one of Aster's abilities supposed to be the ability to freeze images on her mind? From the artist‐mage life?

Jeff091

all possible floors: https://www.patreon.com/posts/chapter-173-71734699 Floor 1: Eternal Darkness Spiritual Perception is improved Floor 2: Genesis Cultivation Tier of Cultivation converted to genesis energy Floor 3: Back to Basics Concepts empowering the body become stronger Floor 4: Courtly Warfare A growth item gains a new effect Floor 5: Taxing Skills Gain bonus skill slots Floor 6: Folded Reflections Concept upgraded with the concepts of the experienced lifes Floor 7: Mind over Matter Concept isfree to use, Willpower cost below recovery rate I always forget it, so i decided to post it as a comment.

David Dorelus

I find it funny that this may actually be the best floor for them to have gotten. Not in the sense that the challenge reward is the best but that the floor itself is very convenient for them. Liz especially is suffering physically while everyone else are on long cooldown times. Now they are on a floor where the physical is a non-issue and can concentrate on using their concept and other skills.

wanderer117

We've seen inheritances. They were the ?top 40? prizes for the T10 tournament arc. Liz got Blood Tsunami, Matt got double sword and IDR what Aster or Susana got.

adam1

It has been said that if he uses mana stones to increase his pool he will be diluting his mana concentration. That's why he needs to take the potions then generate and reabsorb his newly concentrated mana to rebuild his pool. It reads like this will end up being purely an offensive concept to shut down his opponents.

MR105

It seems a bit strange that we haven’t gotten this background on Liz until now

s

Welp. That's the least I've ever liked Liz

Hydrabogen

So Liz has Bloodflames now. If she doesn't get a Skill that only activates when counting down from three in Italian, I'm gonna be very disappointed :p

Nathan Sto

The concentration problems apply to essence for turning up because it builds a weak foundation. Mana is an expandable resource. It’s true that one unit of mana may require a long time to generate from the atmosphere due to its concentration, but that wouldn’t harm him. He just needs to fill himself up - it wouldn’t impact the type of mana he generates. Plus, he could always just spend time dumping mana into the atmosphere before hand.

SunderGoldmane

I wonder, who will have to tier up?

Jamie Trevino

I’ve only ever seen shortstack in reference to the conjoining of ‘short’ and ‘stacked’

TerrestrialOverlord

“Sword sword sword, sword sword. Sword sword? Sword, sword sword sword, sword sword!” Susanne said. Matt thought she made a good point, cutting right to the heart of the matter. Seriously? Mantis I feel like you are poking fun at us with your sharp wit...

Bob Bryan

All I want for Christmas is my

Rowsdower

only the base effects of the concepts get folded in. some of those lives did enter Minkalla again, and were only prevented from a nesting Folded Reflections floor.

Drebee

Well, he also have "detonation" concept powers, which can compress mana around him, so theoretically it should be possible

alex bozdog

No he is T12, that is why I think he won't be one of the people to Tier up.

David Dorelus

Surprised I got the Mind Over Matter right. Although Blood is Thicker would have been great for Liz and Aster, Mind Over Matter benefits them all especially after Folded Reflections.

Drebee

So Matt before this gained that ai/mind empowering addition to his concept or smh similar, and in some alternate lifes they also entered minikal, and there are floors that empowers either healing/internal/flying concepts or whatever concept powers, and if they didn't have that exact motive concept, after finishing the floor their concept had those additional powers. There are decent amount of floors who focuses on concepts, so shouldn't they get more additions to concept powers or they just get orginal concept powers added or they just didn't get any of those floors in their alternate lifes?

Amelgar

also his growth item house solves his mana stone tier up issue

Bob Bryan

I don't think she is endanger yet, but with war on the horizon, true war, that's where I think things might get a little complicated

Mister Cakers

Or sap them and relieve their pain

The El Bandito

Short stack is a term for a half order of pancakes. That led to it being slang for small kids by adults. Very common in America.

Frardowin

Absorbing from the atmosphere is catastrophically bad. the mana concentration is lower than a tier 1.

Rhys Rathbun

Yeah but it's too bad 5wasnt wasteland, concept lock or spirit journey. That would have been an awesome combo

Jamie Trevino

Hey I just want to say in 205 you had Matt call Aster ‘short stack’ instead of ‘shortstop’ or similar term of endearment, and you should probably correct that. Cause short stack has very different connotations than shortstop

Daniel Smith

While I want them to get back to actually delving and descending, I kind of want there to be an 8th floor. It having 7 floors Just feels awkward to me.

Nathan Sto

So now that MC can absorb mana from other sources, he basically solved his mana stone issues for tiering up permanently, eh? Since he can just absorb it from the atmosphere or other people. I wonder if he could absorb it from a rift now, since we know that they're made of mana.

Nathan Sto

Respect to mantis for not doing blood is thicker. I was certainly convinced that he was going in that direction considering all the discussion with aster.

alex bozdog

I doubt it will be more OP, yes it is super op for Matt in particular, but having Matt Liz and Aster have an extra bond on the level of a dragon, with their own talents and concepts is a lot stronger, maybe not for finishing the path on time since 6 people need more essence but that was never their issue, doubling their team size with beings of equal fighting potential as them would make it so they are unbeatable almost as a team within 3 tiers at least.

Kazith

Matt will find a way to unlock floor 8. FOR ASTER!!

Ahppy

Mind over matter combined with the folded reflections seem like a terrifying combination if it works like I think it does. Especially if it includes the reward from back to basics.

MikeL

I also assumed that blood fist will be a future antagonist. Is he definitely still T11?

Craig

The enchanted bones people (from the corporations?) would be good candidates for tiering up… their enchanted bones should not do anything on this floor

Craig

I agree that spirit journey would have made an easy excuse for a war, but I think that concept boosting might be even more OP for our main cast 😂

MikeL

It was vey funny once I realized it.

Craig

Honestly, I hope floor 7 is the end, I have liked Minkalla, but I really want to get back to the wider universe (and ascending up the tiers)

Violet

If the floor 8 hypothesis ends up being correct (and I'm only giving that a one in three chance, personally), then I want to call a shot: It's because Minkalla is an inheritance. It's an aspect of cultivation stories that we haven't encountered yet that fits fairly well and explains why a higher-realm puzzle box could end up in a lower realm. Someone won it, solved the puzzle, put their inheritance in the 8th floor, and sent it to a place where their inheritance could be found by a fitting cultivator of much lower Tier.

mant06

Could Matt print and then empower Talismans? Would the mana infusion eventually tier up materials or just fade?

KingV

Omake = bloopers!

Observer Whimsy

Very interesting. Mind over matter is a massive boon to both Queen and Matt, and a nice get for the others. I’m actually kinda nervous for Susanne. This story has managed to go pretty far without killing off a character we all like, but the stakes or high and she is the red shirt here. Great chapter, looking forward to a big finish to what’s been an outstanding arc.

mant06

Wonder if Matt can now make a practically automated gun factory. Well if he can expand the bestowal effect to include multiple people, it would greatly enforce his guild and research ambitions. If Liz can enforce contracts trough the bloodoaths it would have an enormous support value to any organization. Should Liz be able to extend the bloodline boosting trough bloodoaths, then she could become quite popular.

Brittholomew

or "feed mana into the enhancements in their bones, until they explode"

Jeff091

here is a link, https://www.patreon.com/posts/chapter-173-71734699

Fleetpanda

Noooo Blood is Thicker 😭 why hath thou failed aster. Haha well I can still hold out hope for floor 8.

Bob Bryan

Kinda want someone from liz's past to show up and try to insult her with those insults and see what happens. Also as much as when Jazmine, I think that was her name, shows back up at some point.

Robin Richards

Do you get full discount on the Folded Reflections and back to Basics powers? I read it as those were not foundational to the concept. So general repulsion and Mana transfer would be 100%, The focused explosive repulsion might be 90% and the Mana Drain might be as little as 10% or do they all get the full reduction?

Robin Richards

Don't forget Back to Basics too, Mind over Matter explicitly helps the cost of other Minkalla granted concept upgrades. Not sure what cost reduction he'll get for the mind/sense concept ability but it will be reduced. With three floors providing concept upgrades and two of the being the deepest possible. Minkalla is going to throw out a lot of comparative concept experts. Somebody might give Duke Waters a run for his money.

Goran Jovanovski

Newly acquired mana bombs, anyone?

alex bozdog

you gain a companion, on floor 7 it is the equivalent of a dragon level bond that tiers up with you.

Daniel Smith

What does the Spirit journey floor do again?

Daniel Smith

I had no clue what was going on there

Gabriel Night

So now I have to wait for Matt to figure out he can blow up the fed teams.

Daniel Smith

Yeah if I was reading it all at once it would be fine. But reading it so spaced out that I forgotten he is missing teeth.

T

Not really they got the best floor spiritual journey would end up being a blood bath and in the condition that they find themselves in nothing could be better than mind over matter except many the bloodline one

alex bozdog

I don't think it will be young master bloodfist that will tier up unless he is killed off. It seems more to me that he will be a recurring antagonist and to make him at least somewhat noteworthy he needs the innate skill slot. But I agree some defensive tier ups would be welcome.

jason m

Happy to see floor seven and get closer to finishing up minkalla but definitely a little sad floor six is over. These last few chapters were done really well.

Chymor

Also just got to suggest this. One way to make tiering up seem like a more reasonable idea would be to show others tiering up in defense. Almost everyone in Minkalla has died rather than tiering up. And if they didn’t die, we never saw them tier up. So I want to nominate young master bloodfist for having tiered up last floor. Motivation would be that his ongoing shadow training made it too hard for him to meaningfully improve enough to beat his copy otherwise, and he took some injuries from Mat and co, which he wants to return with his new powers.

Baconater

MVP

Thibault Sabini

So.. can Matt boost himself? Like designate himself as the “Champion”? When i read “internal concept” (in his life with Kurt as his manager) i was kind of hoping he could boost his physical cultivation even further!

alex bozdog

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alex bozdog

I think it makes Susanne a lot stronger but nowhere near the boost it mean for Matt after the last floor. The simple fact that his repulsion and constant bombarding of attacks from his concept will cost 0 while he empowers his sword full time, and he refills Liz's mana while buffing her as a champion. Had this been the last floor and Folded reflections not been on floor 6 I would agree but with all the addons to Matt's concepts I think he is the biggest winner.

Lukas

Anyone remember at what chapter all the floors were described at with the corresponding rewards?

alex bozdog

Thanks for the chapter! I was so hyped thinking it was Spirit Journey for a second there and it would be a massive bloodbath that would spark an early start to the war when 3 ascenders all got the 7th floor reward, but that cleared up in less than half a sentence later. Still I think Mind over matter might be just as busted for Matt, him being able to, at all times, for no cost refill mana for others and enhance a champion, enhance an object have constant repultion and be charging an object and firing explosions from his concept at no cost... That is so beyond broken

ALEXEI

The thing is all side characters that don't join them cannot possibly stay combat relevant with how much faster they progress with making and charging their own dungeons. They will be hundreds and then thousands of years behind unless some dues machina keeps them relevant.

Wrathwind

So without there physical body isn’t Alpha team like super screwed (no runed bones)? This floor might be Minkallas way to get back at their ‘cheating’ they way it’s done to others.

Brad

This makes their concepts super ass strong with Mind over Matter.

Clara

Matt having to play tugboat to ferry Liz around

Galaxyace1

Tyftc! Always makes my day getting new chapter!

adam1

We know she's not planning to stay with the team, I'm thinking we'll get meet ups in the future, like at upcoming tournaments and so on.

Clint

Oh. Definitely faked me out. Liz started talking about having her mana forcibly aspected, and something in my head went, "Blood is Thicker confirmed."

Violet

Jokes on you, Matt is actually just becoming his platonic self: Sean Connery. "Tell me, Chanshellor Vergil, doesh the toppling of Imperial ashendersh really compenshate for having no handsh?"

Thomas Brusilovsky

On one hand, Matt's concept is kinda wild and he has a bunch of versatile uses. Once they finish this floor, he's going to get paid off massively. I imagine this combination of floors is insane for most people tbh. On the other hand, Matt has purely physical cultivation so this is going to be a bit problematic potentially. Or possibly not depending on how absurdly he can leverage his mana + new skill upgrade on this floor.

C_Mantis

yeah thought it was more obvious but just a joke bit

C_Mantis

yeah ill add a reference to it. for the book it might be fine but the week by week readers have too much time to forget

MikeL

Was confused by the 2nd set of body descriptions until I looked up what omake means. Omake: A special video feature that accompanies an anime, such as a collection of deleted scenes or outtakes.

DarthWaffles

So other than the one with the one that gives a spirit familiar they got the best possible 7th floor

MikeL

So I’m guessing that Liz will have a hard time moving around. Her original concept didn’t have it, and her new ones I don’t think have it. Does she has any skills to help?

Aric Allen

I think the abundance of “sh” misspellings when Matt was talking is deliberate because he’s still missing teeth. But if that is the case, it doesn’t feel as clear; I only realized that might be what’s going on half way through the chapter.

MikeL

I don’t know, I’m guessing that Matt’s repulsion will eventually be OP.

C_Mantis

well go over it a touch more in the next chapter but this is a massive boost to everyone. IMO matt gets the most out of free repulsion tho as thats just dummy strong.

MAS

I really, really hope not. I hope she's written out of the story altogether within an arc or two, or at the very least a not-very-recurring character.

Domy

I was hoping for the spirit beast floor or the bloodline floor, but then I realised that the first would be a true blood bath and the second can likely be created in a roundabout way by Matt’s rift experiments

Wrathwind

Mind over matter combos with the previous floor so nicely, but I was hoping for Endless Arcane mana Matt (with 7th floor blood is thicker) but still this should bring them a lot of power with super concepts.

C_Mantis

those are both matt dealing with his missing front teeth still

Herbwick

Thx

Hoid

Seems fitting after FR. Give them the cool new powers and make sure they never run out of fuel. This Minkalla is probably going to very popular after the initial run for people who want to grind it - if they can get the floor bonuses for 6 & 7 they end up way stronger and with a huge versatility boost.

C_Mantis

its kinda like spiritual strain now

C_Mantis

well get that at teh start of the next arc once they have left and debrief but the arc ends when they exit

Azulmar

Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich!

Schmidt

Can Susanne also absorb enchanted shields. It sounded like some off the other concepts also affected her shield? Also Mind over Matter is very fun after folded reflections so they can use all the new concept powers better!

M van Dongen

Lets also not forget the tier 11 floor end reward : a flexible innate skill slot.

BlodWedd

“Now, now. Wash I a cook, or a chef?

BlodWedd

but what really eatsh at me was how eashy it was for me to slip into that life.

Rhys Rathbun

not necessarily this floors all about willpower and because of the vast nature of his concept Matt has a ton of it.

Tommy

Damn I was secretly hoping for spirit journey and I almost thought it was! But after getting all the additions to their concepts, mind over matter is a great follow on from folded reflections so it’ll be good reading for sure👍👍

Jamie Trevino

Burning things into blood rather than ash is NASTY, good grab on Liz, especially if that’s will powered after this floor

Rhys Rathbun

Nice I was hoping this one would show up. Question? since they don't have normal bodies in mind over Matter does that mean their injuries are a non issue or will they still affect them?

Cora

Awesome chapter. I think the folded reflections chapters have been some of your best. So excited for this last floor!!!

Chymor

Honestly surprised by this one, but it clearly favors Susanne most, even if they all get a nice boost out of it given how well it combines with the previous floor. So Susanne for full Ascender as a peer now?

IWannaBeATiger

That'll be a big buff to Susan won't it?

Brisingaer

Ooooooohhhhhhh. Mind over matter was one of the sleeper floor 7s for me. Yeah it'd be incredible but not perfect for anyone. However with the gang so wounded I'm thrilled with a non physical final floor.

Cody

Thanks!

Herbwick

Thank you for the chapter. I was pulling for either blood is thicker or mind over matter. I also appreciate the summary at the end. Any chance we could get a similar "loot page" at the end of minkalla?

Violet

Oh wow, Folded Reflections at 6 into Mind over Matter at 7 is incredible synergy. New concept uses + making them damn near free to use? The powerhouses of this Minkalla generation are going to be absolutely bonkers. Matt's in for a bad time, though, what with his physical cultivation doing absolutely nothing in Mind over Matter.

Clara

Oh Queen is gonna get so boosted from this

Alex

Sword? Sword.

Beardo

Thank you for posting this. Willpower discount on pumping out mana, let's goooo!

Liveyourlifeinpeace

In case you don't remember, I didn't. Mind over Matter: All physical existence fades, rendering everyone into spiritual beings. Physical cultivation does essentially nothing, and moving is hard without a skill or Concept to aid. Physical appearance also fades, and everything becomes more like the abstract idea of itself or its Concept. Reward: Concepts become less willpower-intensive. By floor seven, any foundational uses of a Concept- that is, any things which the Concept itself does, not general uses of a Concept such as locking down space or flying- are functionally free to use, costing less Willpower than most people recover. The further from the primary use (or uses) of the Concept a use is, the less this benefit applies to it.

Tom sawicki

Woooohoooo


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