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Chapter 310

🕑 Added 2024-02-23 19:59:01 +0000 UTC

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Alex

Its good that they'll wait. Liz suffered due to not having anybody her age around. Granted, as the emperors kid the baby will probably get even more people to suck up to them than Liz did, even other children, but the more noble kids there are, the higher the chances that at least one of them will become a true friend. (Maybe Sams (Lizs older brothers) baby? Maybe Aidens? Maybe a little sibling for Liz? Those would totally not suck up to the emperors kid.)

Nicholas Grey

Or simply that the children aren’t suited for it. Whether by lack of drive, lack of privation, lack of empathy, rebelliousness, resentment, etc. it can be a simple character flaw as much as a failure of education.

Nicholas Grey

That’s outlawed across all the Great Powers, except specifically for raising the Tier of the next leader.

Nicholas Grey

Yeah, that seemed clear to me. The Farm was clearly a forced-advancement project, with a continuous input of mana in order to artificially Tier up planets. That input would be what got shut down. Actually *harvesting* those planets (or any planet) is considered a galactic crime outside of the very specific purpose of raising a Great Power heir to Tier 50 pending the Ascension of the incumbent.

Nicholas Grey

Considering the team will be 4200 years old at the birth, “Auntie Liz”, “Auntie Aster”, and “Uncle Matt are serious options.

David Brewer

To be fair, If you have a monarch that is generally benevolent the way Emmanuel is the idea will tend to be true. He has resources to prepare and train his children most people can only dream of and he'll want to try to ensure his children share his values. It doesn't assure his children would be the best, but they do have a significant edge. The reasons that the idea isn't true, generally stem from the monarch in question either not being a good parent OR because the monarch isn't actually a "good" one and thus the children aren't taught to be good rulers.

Donan The Barbarian

The non Ascender elites may have similar levels of strength as an Ascender when facing general opponents in a 2-4 tier range above themselves. But anyone who can finish the Path in 200 years without Matt's unlimited mana or a talent for gathering essence directly has to be able to fight up 3-5 tiers against enemies that have skills and Domains that specifically counter themselves blindly or they'll just drop dead attempting to finish the Path hell that's what your manager will make sure you can do otherwise you're asked to step off the Path. The difference between a Pinnacle elite and an Ascender is that Fighting up 3-5 tiers against opponents who counter you with no info about said counter at all beforehand is a death sentence to a Pinnacle elite and a average Tuesday for an Ascender, a Pinnacle elite with knowledge of said opponents beforehand may escape after injuring some of said opponents while the unwarned Ascender probably KILLED a few on their way out and if said Ascender is warned beforehand they're likely to KILL a MAJORITY of said opponents who on paper have ALL the advantages.

Danzafan37

Edit: generally better off  than before - double space between off and than

Nicholas Hansen

I think rather than thinking of the Path as a way of making monsters, it's more a way of filtering out anyone who isn't a ridiculous outlier in terms of strength, determination, and skill. The trio nearly died many, many times, even with all of their advantages. Most others on the Path don't make it anywhere close to the end, many dying before they step off. Of course, there is also the idea that forging your own strength leads to a deeper well than being granted power.

Xarow

I have seen no announcements or even pre order… At the moment the next book release is likely to be first. JS Arquin’s website shows what he is currently recording and it is not this. Suggests he has not started. Has anyone had anything from CMantis on this? It would be great to get some clarity, even if it is we won’t see one for 6 months.

Mario Reiman

To be honest, luna also thought the same abort this team. For them getting an ascender title was more of a status thing than an actual most efficient path to greatest power. I do find offence with the point that the republic's leader made - that the slow growth uber elites (cant remember their names, some true inheritor and some sect 100k old elite) who are as strong as an ascender in their earlier career will ineviteably eventually be noticeably weaker than an acsender who would be nearing their retirement. This seems to imply that ascender filtration process is just so efficient at finding the absolute best talent that there is basically no way a slow growth set of powers could complete. I would imagine that for example had Manny decided to stay under level 36 for 100-200k years he would have had no competition from almost no ascender, no matter the stage of their career.

UMCDaEMON pp

Anyone know when the next audio book will be released?

Xarow

Can Matt not just buy a planet and then have it moved later to wherever his new territory will be?

Xarow

‘After a moment, she stopped hitting him and pulled his head to her hips. “Oh fine you brute. See what you did to me.”’ I laughed so much at this assuming it was one of those fun typos… now I am no longer sure! Would she pull his head to her hips??? The obvious is lips but they may have this kind or relationship XD

David

I agree with what you're saying to a degree. Getting to MAL's level in 200 yrs and 2000 yrs is a difference. However, I agree that the line between pinnacle/peak elite and Ascender is a bit blurred. That's more due a narrative change, imo. There's been a concerted effort in the writing to raise the "level" of peak/pinnacle elites to match Ascenders. This change has diminished the need/importance of the Path imo. I don't like the change, but I'm slowly growing to accept it.

Jason Hardman

Don't know if we've got a canon reason for higher tier = lower birth rate, but I'm imagining that, along with the expected biological component, there's a spiritual component too, where pieces of their spirits need to blend and feed into the new life being formed. In lower tiers the spirit is weaker and more malleable, and therefore easier to mix, but at higher tiers the sheer strength of spirit gets in the way. Also tallies with the idea in ancient Chinese medicine that semen is "essence" or "spirit". I've always wondered if it's because of this that ectoplasm is often portrayed as slimy and sticky. And now I've implanted that thought into your head you'll never think of ghost stories in the same way again :D

d s

I disagree. Remember the tournament and how much M&L held back? Quen didn't and still lost. They just have a higher damage potential than queen. Waters become a wrecking ball by adding his aspect to his power. I am disappointed in Queen that she didn't follow this route. Even if she didn't finish her aspect, claiming a portion would have made her stronger. Instead of seeking an inspiration, she should have worked toward claiming her sword as her aspects anchor.

Violet

Don't be silly, the monstrous dystopia full of fear of everything outside of it is the Federation, not the Empire! And the last thing this setting needs is chaos cultists.

MinE

Reasonably she should be as strong if not stronger than Matt, Liz, and Aster. A solo pseudo Ascender vs team Ascenders; unfortunately for Queen all their talents have more potential for growth in combat power+they get more resources as Ascenders. P.S Matt's ever-growing mana concentration, improving mana control, and high skill ceiling tier 25 talent; Liz's tier 25 and bloodline research; Aster's tier 25 and her improving bloodline.

Draega

I agree that MAL are all plenty strong, I guess my point is that there doesn’t appear to be anything specific about the Path of Ascension or its completion that gives them that strength. If they dropped off the path at t12 and continued to have Luna teach them they would be just as strong despite no longer being ‘Ascenders’ and instead being ‘Peak Elites” or something. If we assume that it is hard work, talent, Talent, and training that led to their strength then that could all apply to anyone in the universe regardless of their participation in the path.

Jeff Wells

Like Markus said, Luna & Co carefully related Matt's rift making so that he produced rifts suitable for training, not rifts that would give easy essence. It really just ended up being a time/cost saving tool, rather than a full on cheat. And the proof is in the pudding. MAL are absolute monsters who dominate the 25-29 tier space, and don't appear in any way inferior to their fellow ascenders Light and Shadow.

Bob Bryan

Wouldn't say she had a try hard attitude. More just going strong until the end no matter what. Like Frankie said, she did it her way. It's her life.

JoshCalmick

I'm so excited for Queen to be part of team 0

Kalphor

Congratulations to Manny and Carissa!!

Tristan R Mitchell

No, his domain is all about drowning, and the metaphor was that if he failed to form the domain HE would have drowned in those depths. Self-same is a valid expression, used to show equivalence in identity more than physical similarity.

Markus

Also every ascender need some kind of trick that make then different than ordinary people. You can't simply be good at what you are doing. Everyone is good at what they are doing. You need to be able to nullify 1000 years experience gap. Be able to handle stuff that built to counter you and simply be stronger than could be learnt. So don't say that Matts mana regeneration is unfair. It is exactly the unfair trick they are looking for.

Markus

That is what was tested by the arbiter, was it at rank 6? And by Luna since then. Matt and Co are not ascender because they finished the race, they where allowed to finish the race because they are ascender. It has been mentioned precisely that if they could cheat the challenge but not have enough strength to fulfill the expectations of a Ascended then they would be 'asked' to step of the path.

Yshua

Just another one of those things.

Tijay Arnie

Not 40?

Angus Hamilton

"drowning in the self-same depths he sought to drag others down into" I assume same should be made?

Phil

Queen ended up second right alongside Stick and Stone in the tournament, and fell off pretty much at the same tier. Now she’s getting the special treatment for a tier and a third, I can’t say she’ll be to far behind an ascender in power, and she’ll be a great addition to team zero. Another front liner to help Matt take the heat! Also their team doesn’t really have a Domain expert from what I can tell, can easily shake up the team for this big ambush I see coming 😜

Havokk

once past Tier 15 they have perfect control over their bodies and can therefore put the pregnancy on pause as long as they want. Royals normally do this to give other Royals time to try for a kid as well so they can all have them near the same time to give the kids "peers" to grow up with

Draega

Hmm, the Ascenders and their equivalents are always put into a league of their own. But the requirements to ascend for Mat and co were essentially trivialized by Mat’s mana for rift running purposes. I just don’t really see why Ascenders are the de facto best of their tier for essentially winning an arbitrary competition.

David Harr

Also, I am thinking that one of their playmates will be Mara and Leon’s next kid. Why stop at seven?

Violet

I was more implying that she's the kind of powerhouse who could easily end up a royal under the right circumstances, particularly if Lila gives her a few millennia of training, but yes.

David Harr

So, it takes 4000 years for the child to gestate? Or are they going to park the embryo for four millennia so they have a chance to have playmates?

Havokk

Sooooo who is going to be the more doting Aunt? Mara or Aunt Helen ? And just think about the Baby Food creations from Aunt Helen the Emperors child is going to Enjoy. Perhaps this will even help with her concept.. after all "She is Family"

Kelly Bryan

Same sort of rule lawyering the federation is using with their rune soldiers.

Kelly Bryan

I think she earned Queen for not quitting. It is possible to commit no errors and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life. (Thats from Star Trek TNG)

Anime Problem

She hasn't joined yet so she doesn't have any restrictions yet

Markus

It is a bit about how the police hunt criminal. If you work a low paying work like a cleaner and suddenly buy a palace people will be suspicious. It is the same on the scale of countries. You can fudge the number, but if you suddenly double or tripple your BNP other countries will know something strange is going on. And leaving even a hint would allow the other countries to start looking. And at the moment they are not ready for a true war. So they need to make everything be just streching the suspension of disbelief.

Blake Noyes

Is queen going to be allowed to join the war? Isn’t there a rule that cause she’s training in a tier 40 rift and with a trainer above tier 35 that she would be outside of the rules of engagement or something? I just remember from the federation chapter a while ago that certain generals were out of the war cause they jumped into a high tier rift to help people train

Pat Sprehe

I’m just glad she’s alive. I was worried she was going to die in a rift after her try hard attitude last time.

C_Mantis

He stopped fundign the farm but the planets and stuff are all still there.

Abriel Blauer

The Path of Ascension: The New Generation

mitchell kaiser

I’m surprised the emperor didn’t comment more on the state of the war, is that because king Rusty is in charge of the war effort?

SilasDrekken

I was under the impression many chapters ago that Manny had ordered the farm to be harvested in its entirety as a drastic measure to secure the war victory and put most of his eggs in the “Matt’s talent will shoulder the entire economy eventually” basket. Are they just winding down the farm gradually or did I interpret that wrong? I can’t remember when that scene happened to go back and read it again.

Axim

I normally hate these kind of side chapters in stories, but you always hit the mark perfectly!

Discordian23

It's gonna be a massacre, imagine Thinking you killed Aster but it was Really a Liz clone and Queen is already bringing the blade down on your neck, your last ditch effort to make a mark and it was all for nothing.

Tom

Queen and Imperial Embryo power couple?

Havokk

OH ????? Manny as a Dad is going to be great and just maybe the 3-4k years will give time for a little one from Matt and Liz ??? As for Queen, she never gave up even at the deadline she kept going so tons of respect for the character , and after a powerup training and equipping montage provided by Lila between her showing up on team zero and Asters hidden illusion surprises I suspect that the special joint team being prepped to fight team zero are going to be caught flat footed

Jake Malony

Happy for Manny!

Tommy

TFTC! If Team Bucket have babies at the same time they can all be friends 🥳👍 second series anyone?? 😂

Kenneth Dennis

Oh poor queen. I hoped she would make it, however it does make sense that she failed. But we all know that when she gets to tier 25 and joins team zero she's still gonna e a terror in combat.

Anime Problem

Honestly I really enjoyed the end of Queen's arc she won't have the status of an Ascender she will have the drive and skill to at least meet them as a semi peer this is just a new beginning for her

Derze

Cool man. Kinda happy for him. Also glad Queen didn’t die. I was low key afraid she would drop dead out of that rift. Looking forward to seeing her with the rest of the crew.

CottonMod

Loved the outcome for Queen. It shows how hard it is to complete the Path and gives her an opportunity to keep up with MLA. Incredible!

Aaron Hathaway

Surprised he didn't just use Shadows power to reach her.

Violet

Poor Suzanne. Guess she'll have to earn the title Queen a different way.

C_Mantis

30k years give or take a thousand.

Eric Alex

How long is each tier 50’s reign? Is it 10,000 or a 100,000 years?

MinE

I'm going to be honest, I expected him to consider sacrificing the planets essence to mana style even lesser sacrifice could convert essence into mana, so it shouldn't be too difficult.

MikeL

Sad for Queen but not unexpected. It shows how hard it is to become an Ascender. I guess she got an upgraded mask cause Lila was able to see through those.

C_Mantis

Thats the hard rule, but they still prioritize their own kids. After all 'my kids will be better because they are raised for it' isnt new logic for monarchs no matter what they say.

Bob Bryan

Well queen never gave up. Didn't quite make it but she still is strong. Any enemies that think she isn't will have a very bad, but very short day finding out. Also, didn't Fredrick say, a while ago, that Manny wanted to open up who the next emperor could be to anyone. I thought that was something he said during the tier 10 tournament.

Dan

Good ending to the Queen story

mitchell kaiser

Happy Friday!


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