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Chapter 315

🕑 Added 2024-03-18 18:59:02 +0000 UTC

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Mathias Eriksson

still not sure i like the grimdarck theme :(

Hayden McPherson

I dont think its odd at all really, Team Zero has three entire galaxies gathering and scrutinizing literally every single action they take on the warfront, where as Team Zero has two galaxies backing them and gathering information on an untold amount of elites on the enemies side, its both impressive that Team Zero retains some trump cards, as well as having some knowledge of the abilities of the elites they come across.

Timothy phillips

Tftc, I liked the luna and funeral part a lot.

darwensassistent

I have a vague guess at Melinda's tier 25 talent/maybe her aspect. >:)

Nicholas Hansen

The tantrum seems a weird reaction for someone who has been a soldier for decades. He acts like the entire strategy of the war should be changed because he* lost one friend, even though he's seen tens of thousands, if not millions die already. I can see this being a gut reaction before he thinks about it, but I have a hard time believing his superiors would put up with it.

Alex

“So then why are they even trying to kill us?” Matt’s annoyance flared back up again, this time aimed more at the others they were at war with. I thought it had been made abundantly clear in the past on multiple occasions, that while killing an Ascender may be the official best case scenario, nobody actually thinks it will happen. The actual realsitic goal is to give them a long healing countdown. And everyone knows it.

Kain

“Your upgraded regeneration is practically the only source in the entire realm” well that was a fuckin lie

Babasola Osikoya

Where is Melinda in all of this? Why isn't she there grieving with them? Why didn't she talk with Matt knowing how much Eric meant to him?

Mario Morales

Waters really is a problem. They probably went up the ranks thinking how they can be a group of three of him but in reality, at the same Tier, they would probably at best be hoping to tie with him. 3v1

Erik Halberg

Matt's going to form his Aspect at T25 during the final battle of the war

Mecha Paladin

I am also hoping for something similiar, we have Matt who by all accounts is just kniwn for shrugging off anything and everyrhing during a fight so him appearing at one battlefield after another with no gap for a healing cooldown, if anything would throw off the other GPs analysis of his talents etc, and live up to be Ascender Immortal.

DBuck

The series has taken a u-turn on the abilities of our protagonist. Overhealth is only a thing for Matt? If Melinda would cause a war so would Gan Lee. Making a unit invincible? Come on. We speed ran through minkalla and then get descriptive losing battles except for maybe one. Loved the series so far- but since they have become ascenders it has been a drag.

Kelly Bryan

I think a 300 year old in a 20 year old immortal body with the power of a god would be impossible for me to identify with. Being tripped up by is not something Im bothered by, but his friend just died and as a man of action if he didnt react a little explosively it would seem a little out of character. Notice that he didnt yell at Melinda, or Darrow at all? He wanted a wall to hit and yell at, its name happened to be Baxter.

Alexander

What's stopping Matt and Ellie from teleporting in, detonating a 10 trillion mana bomb and teleporting out :}

Alexander

Why stop at an aspect when there's an Authority to be established ;)

Bob Bryan

Are you familiar with the greek/roman/Egyptian/Norse gods and how they act. The multiple xianxia stories with characters far older who act far less mature. Heck even in reality. Age does not equate to maturity, it never had. Just stubbornness.

Kain

Yeah but that’s what dosnt make sense them being pulled from the war should have been easily noticed by the empire “oh a person who is known to be invincible and can transfer that to others near him, a sniper that has killed elites, a cyborg with no blood, and a bunch of other elites, some of which also counter other ascenders, all stopped showing up at battlefields at once I wonder where they are?” Isn’t a hard question for Empire intelligent to ask and answer or it shouldn’t be. Edit: though I will try and wait for the debrief before commenting more Empire intelligence really seems to have dropped the ball at the least still can’t believe Matt couldn’t even recognize several of the elites present. Like unless I’m wrong an about elites and there are in fact hundreds of thousands of them per GP, which would make ascenders even more meaningless that I currently think they are with tens of thousands of elites per GP, I can’t see how an immortal with perfect memory fails to memorize a thirty to forty thousand names faces and abilities they had hundreds? Thousands? Of years in the rift with 70 years of real time having past, can’t remember time dilation rate. Not to mention high tier individuals experience time differently they take in a process information at insane speeds a “day” on earth would feel like literal years of experienced time to a tier 25 but honestly the book isn’t the best at portraying that most of the time unless it’s specifically being highlighted like it was in a few chapters with Manny and Duke Waters.

Jeppe Fiig

Ah but people surrendering is only an issue, when they survive long enough to send a surrender. As we just saw last chapter its fully allowed to use sudden overwhelming power applied directly to the face.

edgardo rossi

this is exactly my hope

Derek Walker

I think everything so far has made sense. The counter team they fought was pulled from the war 70 years ago and sent into secret training. Other than maven, and a few others, most others were off the radar even before then (rune soldiers, gan le, the twins, which is like over half of the group) moreover even if their abilities were known. 70 years of infinite resources was enough for a drastic power up… As for why they know so much about T0, that’s because T0 has been fighting nonstop for the 70-80 years as a full team, and even longer before MAL joined. Of course most of their abilities are going to be know, unless T0 sandbagged every fight in the war.

MikeL

I was thinking something similar, where were the empire spies? and how were there no meeting strategizing how to counter their elites. At the very least shouldn’t the general have been doing that in real time.

Mokuyobi

This is starting to piss me off a bit. It seems like the enemy factions are pulling powerhouses out of nowhere that are perfect counters to team zero. They have just a ridiculous amt of info about all their abilities too. Meanwhile, the empire knows next to nothing about nearly every enemy they went up against last fight, leaving team zero on the backfoot. Im all for introducing death of "good" characters into the story, and i by no means want every fight to be a steamroll in favor of team zero, but this felt really forced and out of place in the context of the story. I get theres going to be a 2nd bigger war, but its not an excuse to haphazardly introduce emotional conflict in the way it was this time around. I honestly expected better from you Mantis. Hopefully something this stitched in doesnt happen again.

Telosa

Because the author wants to write about immortal Xianxia-adjacent characters on the eternal supernatural grindset, but doesn't have the life experience to write believable characters that feel like immortals. The main cast is supposed to be hundreds, bordering on thousands of years old in subjective time, but they all still act and behave like early 20-somethings college athletes. I enjoy the story in spite of that, but it's definitely a reflection of the author's youth and inexperience as a professional writer.

C_Mantis

@agentSquishy good catch and fixed

John Balman

LoL you know Allie wouldn't leave she get a bag of popcorn in set up a viewing screen for everyone

Max Thomas

Lol Baxter's bedside manner is so dogshit Luna (fucking Luna?!) is better at comforting a grieving person

Tibstrike

It would be cool if that whole vengeance thing Matt's been brewing on for what a couple centuries now actually had some sort of resolution. Or even any sort of plot development like beelining for Maven instead of the world's most obvious hard counter possible.

MinE

P.S I wonder how long till she gets it to the point that all the other healers need to do is provide mana no spells required; can you imagine how terrifying if she managed to make it so anyone she healed gained temporary mana absorption with all the absorbed mana going to healing them.

MinE

Even [Bandage] would be able to heal anything with an over health buff, so maybe he should rephrase it as any idiot with a fresh [Bandage] skill.

Michael McMahon

Yeah you guys are right he is gone. I think i got my hopes up with all that Luna was saying but she was saying it more in relation to Zack than Eric. Now I really cant wait to see how the team responds and how this will impact their development

Samantha Sandlin

Eric wasn't an Ascender, but rather an Elite. He won't be coming back.

Kelly Bryan

I was just reading something about this in Honor Harrington... he said no mercy not no quarter. If surrender is made they will accept it, but its not exactly like our heroes are paragons of mercy in the first place.

C_Mantis

Shes movign slowly to best maximize the growth of her Tier 3 which is the overhealth.

Brukhalian

They have no reason to power level her yet - It's safer to let her grow into her power until they absolutely need her and this is not the conflict where they do.

Kit

I agree, I still don't understand the reasoning behind the inflated ages.

Kelly Bryan

The fact that our main characters are about 300 years old with 1000s of years of subjective life experience is a stumbling block I hit from time to time. But they have been effectively living in isolation as they raced breakneck through a gauntlet of battle against inhuman monsters. Their interpersonal skills and understanding of social dynamics almost have to be stunted. Sure Luna may have walked them through this info before, like 100 or so years ago... but learning something and feeling it happen to you are very different, when Matt lets himself think through what shes saying he agrees with her and I think that if he hadnt heard all that before he would have continued his 'tantrum' as Baxter referenced. Honestly Baxter hasnt been around so much but I really thought he had more of a rapport with Matt. I hope Matt punches him in the face when their strength is closer to matching.

MATT

How is Melinda only tier 17? I can’t remember the exact timeline. I do know she was tier 15 when MLA finished the path. So 100 years since that and two tiers? She should have been power levelled to peak t24 by now.

AgentSquishy

After identifying Baxter as T46 he says punching the T45 healer, which I imagine should be T46. Luna says any two bit healer with a T8 skill can use Melinda's overhealth, but [Bandage] is the only T8 healing spell so should probably be revised to T14

Haikaiko

Honestly, what I took away from the pep talk is that what separates Ascenders from the rest is that they just never give up. What's Matt's whole identity, again? He's not just an Ascender who never gives up, he's THE Ascender who never gives up. Soon. I'm expecting him to be just like "Hey Allie, where's the tier 25 Sect / Republic / etc main war front system again? Go ahead and teleport me there. No, just me, alone. You can leave afterwards. I don't want any friendly fire concerns for what I'm about to do. Just gonna test something Luna said to me. Plan to come back and pick me up in, oh, forty hours? Should only take me that long. Oh, and let the cat know, she's about to be proved wrong. Either determination ISN'T the most important thing for an Ascender, or yes, it is in fact possible to conclusively confirm when dozens of them die for good. 40 hours. Look for the big black hole where a solar system should be."

Bob Bryan

Even if none did die eric would not have died for nothing. He isn't a boat but he is kind of the fictional equivalent of the Arizona during pearl harbor. Enemy thought they were send thr knock out blow and miscalculated absolutely terribly. Same here

Jason Scott

Matt just became the largest nuke in history with rage and angry management issues. More than 1 "bad guy" is gonna die.

Haikaiko

"Our mentor has a strict anti-AI policy, and we decided to start respecting that restriction and turn ours off for this fight. So! If anyone wishes to officially surrender, you'll have to scream loud enough and long enough to be heard over the sounds of all your comrades getting slaughtered in bulk without pause. Let's begin!"

Jinjitsu

I never said he had to be completely rational. But he is far too intelligent and old to make such bad arguments not even mentioning that keeping important talents secret that could change everything is kind of his thing. I am extremely sure that the exact consequences of all of these things he has already thought or talked about dozen of times.

Josh Bullock

Right because someone who has just lost a friend of many decades for the first time in his life is expected to be completely rational? I think it's perfectly natural for him to be pissed off that someone that could have saved his friend's life wasn't allowed to help - even if they had good reasons for doing so. I think the idea that people would get infinitely more mature the older they get is a bit silly. I know plenty of elderly people who get just as frustrated any annoyed by the exact same things as they would have done back decades before.

Poonam Desai

It will be interesting to see the POV of the harmony crew when T0 shows up comparatively healthy in such a short time.

Havokk

with everything going on I think a lot of people missed Luna just casually telling Matt to just go ahead and do the impossible and Win this war that even the Emperor was planing on them losing

AirSak2000

Sorry wasn't able to articulate what I meant that well. If a bunch of people on the other side didn't die, which I hope will be in the next chapter, then it will feel like Matt's rage was ineffective

Aaron Martinez

What do you mean? He died as a useful distraction.

Jinjitsu

Thanks for the chapter, still not really a fan of the discussion with Luna. Feels like Matt should know all of this and he is like 300 years old and seems a bit too childish for that.

abowden

bringing back the properly dead and backwards time travel are the two things talents can't do (that and realm stuff, I guess) says C Mantis, basically, things that ruin stories :p

Sezra_

Thanks a bunch! ʕ•ᴥ•ʔゞ゛

Ryan Romano

Plus they all grew up on DW stories and legend, and they've been told over and over that he is an outlier, but i don't think it really set in until right now, like they knew academically that he was a monster, but Luna telling him how "normal" ascenders have performed through history is really a wake up for Matt. They've been taking to the war like DW has, he truly is a terrible role model, like a great guy, but just a shit mentor, and it finally had consequences

C_Mantis

yeah they dont just have one set fo gear but also Matt's gear has some self repair abilities we will talk abotu later

Havokk

Once the "spirit" is gone it is gone for good, so Eric is indeed gone for good

Tener

Damn sure they have multiple sets of replacement parts and most of it is just reintegrating the stuff in the right way. They had 70 years outside of rift, so hundreds of in-rift years to perfect the process.

Violet

They have to follow the laws of war, which means when enemies surrender, they have to take them prisoner. That qualifies as mercy.

Derze

His body getting cremated, so he is dead dead. But it does set precedent for Liz or someone else to revive later in the series

AirSak2000

I like that there were was a personal negative impact on them but if the other side wasn't devastated or at least 3-4 didn't die then it feels like Eric died for nothing

Violet

Firmament is going to be able to get Matt's gear back together in five hours after what he just did to it? That seems implausible, but I guess they've had a lot of experience remaking parts of it at this point.

Frardowin

I right there with you, just 1 kill would make it make sense.

Jeppe Fiig

When what is presented?

Member of the Unseelie Accords

Thank you! I’m looking forward to it.

Tommy

For me; I hope that by the end of the arc we see a bit of dialogue or something from the bad guys where they realise they should’ve never poked the bear and killed Matt’s friend. The catalyst for the all out destruction of their war effort by a man, his wife and his fox bond

Sean McClain

Small error: Matt winced. Knowing Firmament, and the relative state o[unneeded new line]f their gear,

Dylan Alexander

This is why I much prefer a somewhat realistic outlook in stories like these even if they’re not obviously realistic. You actually need stakes like real life, otherwise, what’s the point? I’ll just be reading something where the MC/Characters in general steamroll everything, never take a loss and don’t learn from anything. That’s what I call boring story craft.

Dylan Alexander

They need to be merciful when it’s presented, otherwise, what are they? It would give the other greater powers the justification they want.

Tommy

Yesss. I was reading thinking “do a duke waters, get your aspect early, crush all opposition”

Derze

That hit that keeps hitting harder. Man… I’m still in shock. I need to know they got at least one confirmed kill on the other side. I refused to believe they got their asses handed to them so readily. Just one! Just one High value target.

James Faulkner

Tftc!

Bob Bryan

You know you can't be violating the rules of war on the "no attacking anyone who surrendered" bit if you kill everyone when you show up. Matt and Liz could definitely do that.

C_Mantis

next chatper is the debrief which should do more of that. it was OG part of this chapter but when this chapter hit 12k it was cut in half.

Jeppe Fiig

No rest, no mercy, no matter what

Member of the Unseelie Accords

This was well written, the emotions fee earned and diverse enough for a complex group. I think you do a good job of explaining Team 0’s mindset going into the fight and after. However, I don’t think it necessarily answers many of the criticisms of the last chapter, except for the piece of them knowing about a group of elites from rival powers. Hopefully the other pieces of criticism can also be resolved.

Thomas Brusilovsky

Hopefully the debrief will give us some good stuff about the aftermath of that last fight.

ALEXEI

Tbh I'm glad you didn't have Melinda bring him back from the dead. That would have just been way to much power and knowing the mcs would always just get melinda rez would have killed any tension. Maybe if it came with huge drawbacks like they come back buy as tier 1 or something.

Anonymous

This chapter reminded me that both groups of ascenders are experiencing their first war. They are strong, but they are also very green compared to veterans like DW and Lila. They needed one or even a few defeats like this to really temper their mentalities and eliminate their complacency. Fact is, T0 got caught lacking and the emotional impact of one death (and another almost death) led to a spiral of reckless choices and fallen apart teamwork. I’m looking forward to seeing all of the team members grow mentally stronger from this setback and maybe go on a big angry murder spree throughout the rest of this war.

Zack

Good chapter, but I still want to know what the fallout of Matt's explosion is

Michael McMahon

Eric dying (and the potential of him coming back down the line maybe) is going to be some catalyst driving the team over the next couple if books. Tftc!

MikeL

She also has her own Phoenix.

Kain

Thank you for the chapter and nice Dawn reference lol.

Patrick Brennan

I hope this is a murder hobo arc for Matt

RedLeaf

Thanks for the chapter!

Captain the Red Beard

Tyftc!

MikeL

Yeah for the next audiobook!


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