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Chapter 380

🕑 Added 2024-12-02 19:59:00 +0000 UTC

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Kaine Eine

From what we have seen, no, but that also might be because they aren't good for path as they have a finite amount of loot and when it's gone it's gone

Jonathan Campbell

I’m wondering if they are going to lose all their precious secrets just as soon as Allie hits tier 40 or 45 and decides to sate her curiosity, especially if maybe Liz puts a bug in her ear since their methods might also work well for beast bloodlines.

jebediah norton

I’m re-reading the golem ruin ark and I was wondering due to the t25 realm implying that rifts are rarely delved and almost never cleared are ruins very common in the lower realm and if so is that how they get most of there loot?

Julie Smith

Yes, all possible. I definitely think Manny has a plan to use these Orders in ways the nobles have not considered, probably involved Matt's and perhaps Melinda's powers.

Julie Smith

Allie, Matt, Liz, Aster, and Light appear? Will they sponsor an order? That'd be a fun plot line. That's a good way to end the chapter.

Alex

And it sounded like most knights ended up mid level elites at best. Academy graduates seem similar in power. The knights don't really seem worth it.

Kain

Oh for sure and they won’t even be that wrong lol, these people suck even when tempered and giving them any kinda return to power is a risk, a calculated one sure but still a risk. And if the Reps president points out that Manny is essentially gambling with the well being of mortals and commoners to increase his military might they will be 100% correct that’s exactly what this is and the nobles and immortals aren’t going to be the ones to suffer if the bet comes up bad. Not saying it’s an incorrect course of action necessarily but the “ the empire isn’t actually concerned with mortals and just cares about military might and are expansionist aggressors” factions will definitely have a moral point to stand on here no matter what.

Rodney

Now I'm so curious as to what kind of knight order Liz and Matt are going to try to create and is this going to be where we get some Luna guidance on how to teach because I miss Luna

Clint

Yep. But the ichor blood will be there in utero. There were hints that her blood will be a problem with any pregnancy. Perhaps the knightly secrets will be a part of solving that problem?

MinE

No wonder Janet was so skeptical.

Pyrefiend

The Republic is definitely going to use the return of the knightly orders as anti-Empire propaganda.

Wes

Was thinking these knights would play a major part in the true war but their attitude makes me not want to root for them. especially the scheming zombie guy

John

Thanks!

Throngler In Chief

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Matt

I take your point, but there are other pinnacles that are not nearly as much trouble. I think Ascenders and the Knights will be just as much trouble, but Ascenders are transformative where knights (or pinnacles in general) are important.

michael pigott

For the knights in particular i think it sends the wrong message. These guys are acting like this because they're under the impression their orders are THE source for pinnacle elites and thus the empire needs them enough they've got a LOT of leverage. One of them getting wrecked and possibly killed by an acsender 1: Makes an example of the dead idiot and 2: does so with Manny's favored method of making pinnacle elites, 3: has a knight killed off by basically their opposite philosophy of pinnacle creation. Knights are money vacuums that succeed along a set group of tactics, secrets and skills or are cast aside. Ascenders are given the room and pressure to find their own way but are generally free to shape themselves.

Shawn Treants

Cornelius was suspicious as hell. Too accepting. Sure he will be watched closely.

Mister Cakers

Ascenders can win warfronts but can’t be everywhere. Without strong, supporting rank-and-file no matter how many victories the ascender achieves won’t match the mounting losses everywhere else. Reliably creating upper/pinnacle elites is the best thing.

SqrlyGrly

If the republic still thinks these people are in charge of the empire, I get why she hates them.

Matt

It seems like Ascenders are worth the trouble because they win wars. Whereas knights are just going to be trouble. How screwed is the Empire with the restrictions on the path that Manny is allowing this?

Jason Scott

A few thoughts. Liz's bloodline testing and experiments and now return of Knights that create bloodlines with treasures. Me thinks Liz has gotten further along than anyone knows and Uncle is allowing the knights back so they don't see her and say she stole secrets, Manny gave her secrews, or they try and kidnap her for a underground rebellion of bloodlines. Which would cause the empire to implode from everyone looking for her. Also I think Matt might create his own order. I also bet he gonna gonna wipe out an entire order that decides to go off the rails prolly round his tear 35 to 40 when his power is made public.

Brian Mirando

Based on what was written, arguably the worst were killed. So these guys were probably some of the least problematic.

Trevor Mergen

Thanks!

Brandon Cleveland

I believe it’s implied that the inheritable nature of natural treasures only happens when it’s done as an infant and they grow up with it.

DisgruntleFairy

I could see Matt deciding to make his own Knights! But better!

Andrew K

Minor autocorrect issue: "cationic" -> "catatonic" (though "cationic" is somewhat amusingly ironic in this context)

Jacob

I think Manny will be the first to kill someone off. He has mentioned killing his nobles off before...

someone

Think Freddy is looking to bind the nobility to the military through the knights

Cindri

I got money on matt and liz kid being a knight baby with ichor blood and that natural treasure that makes matts hand invunerable

Droog

“children who should default to her older and more experienced judgment”: Maybe “defer” instead of “default”?

MinE

Ernest and Cornelius seem pretty reasonable. Ernest is just trying to put on a braveface and his point was valid and it was literally stated he was "clearly trying to placate everyone". Cornelius seems nice and if it wasn't for the fact his order's history of squire/peasant abuse, I would say he was the pretty good. Stella seems to singlehandedly make them all look worse by being simultaneously an old crone and a pretentious prick. P.S. Seriously, I halfway expect the reason her order's natural treasure works so well is they're always in danger of pissing off someone of a high enough tier to kill them all.

Jason Hardman

To be honest, it wouldn't have surprised me if their "secret" was already a known thing, but kept from being open knowledge just because it would cause too many issues with people abusing their unborn children to "improve the family line" or other such nonsense.

eloi Boco

Dam the cliffhanger

MinE

Honestly, they feel like a more spoiled version of the Dao children.

michael pigott

So take your bets everyone, which of these guys is getting killed by probably Lila

Kain

I mean it’s a damn good thing, for them, Matt wasn’t here to hear about the squires from the leaders and representatives of this faction. He’d pull any support he’s shown so fuckin fast if he heard that lol.

Adamas Shield

Yeah they still do not adapt. And they are yet to truly feel the fire stolen from the gods. Easier to get Aura, skills, (very probably) treasures, a absurd amount of computational data and mana to the empire at large. Plus if they enter the good(ish) list then they probably will discover they are late for a lot of 'updates'. The fire of changes will burn so many of these guys.

BagFullOfLizards

Rusty: …And we have our first candidate for who we’re going to have to make an example of!

Jason Hatter

In some ways, they feel like the Empire version of sects.

Jairo H

Good stuff. Thank you!

sambee

Allie Teleport is too wordy for such an important and dignified person. Alliport sounds much better.

Havokk

“We cannot pay for squires. That defeats the purpose of a squire. They live and die at our whim for good reason. What good are they if we can’t use and dispose of them? There is a reason we used peasants for such positions.” And we have our villain for the arc... Stella you are our next contestant on the game "Play Stupid Games"

Tommy

I have visions of these Knightly Orders getting back underway and then one of them going crazy. And the ascenders have to deal with it Bad guy: “I am a peak elite, it is my right!” Matt “You are weak. Witness true power” KABOOM! Great chapter. TFTC!

Discordian23

Human nature, you gotta have politics when it involves large groups of people and inevitably someone is gonna be at or near the top, people will always lookout for themselves so it becomes a dirty game.

Trevor Mergen

Thanks!

Alex

Back in the tournament arc, Matt has a sit down with Leon where Leon tells him some stuff about how the world works in the high Tier circles: one of the big takeaways from that conversation is that the "New Empire" of the Sophron dynasty is very much confined to the Tier brackets populated by people who were born after Agatha's rise to the throne. Leon tells Matt that society is completely different above Tier 35 to anything he's experienced so far: there are too many old monsters and not enough new blood in that Tier bracket for the reforms of the Sophron Dynasty to really hold sway, and a lot of people in that Tier range have lost their humanity because of how old and out of touch they are. These must be some of the bastards that Leon was talking about. It kind of hit me reading this chapter that for all the trouble Liz and Matt have had with politics so far, they've only been dealing with the more progressive, younger nobles. They haven't even BEGUN dealing with the scum who're left over from the Old Dynasty.

Jana

The last two chapters hide an exceptional amount of possible changes for the empire. A possible cultivation method that keeps those that just cultivate ambient essence combat relevant - that’s huge. The Orders feel like a light version of Virgil experiments and can lead to an improvement in the Elite bracket IF it works out and that’s a huge IF. Interesting to see where this goes.

Darune Albane

Oooo i cannot wait for the next chapter to see the possible fireworks

Mrdelta

So, think Aster wants to start an ice cream order?

MinE

The whole look down on your squires thing is particularly stupid. Stella seems like a bootleg Virgil and for once I feel like I'm insulting that disgrace of a "mother". P.S. Fed leader, I'm not sure if I'm remembering her name right.

RedLeaf

Politics! Somehow, no matter the location, the culture, the species, politics manages to always be the same feces- filled sewer.

MikeL

Wow, these are people seem the worst to revive their Orders. They all seem willing to sacrifice their own for themselves. Were they really a so much better fighting force? They don’t sound any better than the current Academies.

Adam Charron

Hanks for the chapter! Can’t wait for the next one.

James Faulkner

Tftc!

noah radencic

Thanks mantus

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! So is Freddy supporting the knights for reasons we don't know. Or is Freddy supporting them to give another bit of proof that the knights and nobles are good people. Trying to earn Matt's forgiveness. -I am sorta sad we saw his mind and so don't suspect him of being a traitor. I like the idea of using a natural treasure to make a child, and the debate if that is just a clone. Even beyond the idea that it isn't even a clone but the same man having used a natural treasure to seem different. -Both are fun. I would ask a question about being able to require an oath from those leaving to not reveal their secrets. An AI oath is a start, but is it possible to make the strong or oath that the Legacies required? I am eager to see how Knights and Ascenders interact. I am curious if our pal Ra'thala has any interesting reactions or interactions to Knights with their bodies that are melded with Natural treasures.

Kasamuri

Thanks for the chapter


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