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Chapter 353

🕑 Added 2024-08-16 18:59:01 +0000 UTC

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Julie Smith

Woah. So much here. First, Fabian. How naive is he, thinking Matt won't check on him? At the least, he'll lose his position. At the worst, his life. I think Matt might send him into a rift. If he survives, he can be a rift delver. Next Tara. She's got a good heart. Cooperating with the monks and picking up combat skills is a good idea. It'll do good beyond what she realizes. I wonder what it'll take for her to trust Matt and Liz? Perhaps a rift break out, she gets injured, is near death and is healed? Finally, the soldiers getting awakened and fighting in the rift. I can just smell the next generation of Ascenders coming from this planet.

ByLAWphoto

After reading this chapter, I literally had a dream where the counselors got magically spanked. NGL--it was pretty good.

Trevor Mergen

Thanks!

Drew Tunison

I mean in timelines of immortals a single generation seems meaningless. That said traumatizing a potential matt level being would not be great.

Kelly Bryan

I think Tara is similar to anyone in power on Earth that actually cares about their people. She reacts from within her world view, the problem being that immortality is natural here. Travelling to myriad planets as you grow up is natural. Not struggling to provide food for a nation is natural. Her bustling planet with so many competing ideologies is unnatural here, made so by The Republic. She is a great example, I hope she comes around to cultivation so she can continue to lead Soerilia and her people.

Elaine

good chappie

C_Mantis

Na feel free to call me out. It keeps me honest. I do fuck up but this was a deliberate choice is all.

CottonMod

What a way to traumatize a whole generation of people. And end it with “it’s just a prank bro”.

Alex

Matt's Concept is stronger than Liz's because it has better synergy with his Talents than hers does. That doesn't have anything to do with compatibility. A Concept is compatible with a person if it fits exactly right with who they are; if the person is lucky and the Concept meshes well with their Talents and Bloodline they'll end up with a stronger Concept than someone who has an equally compatible Concept. Let me give you an example; imagine Aiden has an identical twin, Nedia, who is the same as him in every way, except for the fact that Nedia has water mage Talents and a Leviathan Bloodline. Nedia would have a significantly stronger Domain than Aiden does because Nedia's Domain is more synergistic with their Power. Does that make Nedia's Domain more compatible? No, Nedia and Aiden have equal compatibility with their Domains, it just so happens that Nedia got lucky and their Domain fits better with their Talents and Bloodline.

Drew Tunison

Sadly I am probably the only person who wanted a shock and awe invasion style unveiling. Where empire monitors pull out people before they die as cultivators from lily invade and fight a global war. Afterwards everyone is returned and lands are fixed and then the dukes come out and let everyone know.

ShivaMcTimber

They aren't similar type of stories overall, and the Culture novels don't get into the nitty gritty of assimilating another society in any detail. But you do get the viewpoint of those who see the overpowered Culture as one of mass homogenization very similar to Tara's internal observations and concerns. The fear of losing one's history and cultural heritage and, in a few hundred years or a millennium becoming a footnote in the overall history of a much, much larger empire that exists on a scale is hard to comprehend. The sad truth is those fears are well founded.

Matt Brown

Thanks I wasn’t trying to nitpick or sound like that. Sorry if it came off that way. I just know it’s normally assumed that they work like COD and my 11b senses tingled. I appreciate the response and your books are awesome. I’ll trust the process from now on

C_Mantis

Ill have to check those books out once this arc is done. I try not to read stuff too similar so as not to taint my own ideas but sounds interesting.

C_Mantis

Depends on how your optics are zeroed really. I did my four in the Marines so I'm well versed in guns but you are correct. If I wanted to me more accurate id have described how he offset up and to the right butttt its just not worth the word count to explain all of that when there is a viable enough explanation. The average reader expects people to shoot where your chevron is after all and I don't feel like being the one to explain shooting to them lol.

Erik Halberg

I think it was also said that she's been working for the company for 2000 years, so probably a mixup in wording

ShivaMcTimber

These chapters put me in mind of Iain M. Bank's Culture novels which often deal with the Contact Division's handling of these type of integrations of new galactic races/cultures. Mr. Mantis mirrors their approach to a large degree (well, MLA's approach anyway, I sure there are assholes). Here are the non-negotiable rules...but the rest is a light touch. I'm guessing the whole Admin folks who manage this are basically the Empire's Contact Division. I'm sure there is a more hidden Special Circumstance Division too.

MinE

Well Matt's concept was always stronger than Liz's despite her technically having a version of hers since she was nine, so I believe compatibility is the main deciding factor as long as you get your concept before tier 5.

sambee

@Mario Morales. Bellerophon would rather die wholesale than be ruled by foreign oligarchs. “All are free, or none. Ye of this land, suffer no compromise in this. “

Mario Morales

Not all republics can be Bellerophon...

Charlottef

Would it be possible please to have a chart with all the names of the countries in soerilia, the names of the leaders and the type of government they have (i.e. democracy, autocracy, communist or dictatorship) I am starting to pick up on some of the main players, but relating them to the type of government is not always easy. I know that Tara is head of a democracy. But it is unclear what type of country Fabian comes from for instance. A chart would be really helpful. Thanks

Rodney

She's that grandma who is so stuck in her old ways that she wouldn't let you play video games or even bring your console to her house because you should be sitting down being quiet reading a book you can't make noise or anything in her house

Jeff Wells

Maybe, but he could actually be getting one over on them, in the short term. The problem with his thinking is he thinks getting away with it for a year means he won't be found out or things will have moved too far to deal with, while in fact it's like they just stepped out of the room for a minute. With their senses they'll be able to figure out whatever he does even decades later, and they'll come down like a hammer. He thinks he can catch up to their power in a reasonable timeframe, when in fact he will only ever fall further and further behind.

Pyrefiend

Tara thinks immortality is unnatural, but literally all of society is unnatural unless you live out in the woods. Even her status quo is impossible without secret cultivators protecting them from rift breaks.

Rodney

I'm curious if they're allowing Fabian to slowly hang himself essentially so that they can show the rest of them what happens when you think you're going to outsmart them and what happens to the devious and plotting types.

Rodney

I was thinking he was about to have an inspiration and tier up

Alex

The Tier you figure out your Concept is a big deal because at low Tiers a cultivators mind protects itself when they touch their Concept by giving them amnesia. For a cultivator to remember touching their Concept before the peak of Tier 4 they need to hit on it EXACTLY right; saying compatibility matters more than Tier makes no sense, because you need to be absolutely compatible with the Concept to even remember touching it before peak Tier 4.

Alex

Why couldn't they just leave them alone... Maybe dear Tara, not everyone hates change as much as you. I bet there's people that'll absolutely love the opportunity to live forever. Parents that will be eternally grateful that better medicine can save their kids life. Theyre leaving you alone. They just want people to be allowed to make decisions for themselves. If they dont like the empire or cultivation, they can just stay at T1 and never leave their democratically elected city. But they will have the opportunity to make informed choices. They're not babies that need to be controlled.

Alex

Maybe, but there they just don't mess with primitive species. These are people at a similar evolutionary level that were artificially lowered, the republic just squashes everything and everyone that tries to rise above/ back to where their ancestors were.

A Flashy BR

Sounds like he already feels his concept

Matt Brown

kept both eyes open as he looked down his scope and put the chevron on the creature's eye It’s kind of unclear but if you put the chevron on someone’s eye with an ACOG it wouldn’t hit the eye. Essentially you should put the top of the chevron (at 300m) on the head and the bullet will hit between the shoulders of an average sized human. I know they might have different sights but it sounds like you’re using a lot of earth military slang (like NCO) and most people wouldn’t know that unless they had some training with it so I thought I’d put it out there. Good chapter! Thank you!

Luis Herrera Moreno

i love the soerilia chapters so freaking much, i also love the rift stuff but soerilia is just special, i vote for more!

ShivaMcTimber

TYFTC! Correction: "What was the point when an administrator working for a company was two thousand years old?" It earlier stated she was 8000yrs old and had been an admin for 2000yrs.

MinE

I think your forgetting Liz and Melinda had their concepts before she awakened. When you get it age or tier wise seems less important in comparison to how compatible it is. P.S. Melinda is probably the only person whose talent with domains surpasses Duke Waters, but its balanced out by her focus on healing.

Darthnarciss

It's my understanding, that actual guns, not reflavored wands/staves, don't scale well due to materials, and tiers. Spray and pray mindsets aren't financially viable when you and your opponent are both T# and so your ammo is also that tier, or higher. Then add in unless your round managed to remove their head or heart, most people of sufficient tier will eventually heal much less have access to healing magic, I mean remember Matthew was basically just a head and a little viscera and was considered only temporarily out of action. Then add in high tier reaction times and defenses. Like "high tiers" can create sonic booms from moving, and if I remember correctly that is what.. tier 10-15. Everyone is the Flash, it takes a specific type of equipment/skills/talents to make firearms viable.

Matt H

I assume this is a joke, but Luna is capable of living on a higher tier world for an extended period of time where she can force Mara to be a heat lamp. Any world like that will have a significantly higher population (including low tiers) due to spacial shenanigans than a T3? world like Soerilia. As for her "compulsion", she was pretty clearly not done with MLA considering her interest in being a part of the support staff/infrastructure of Team Zero even after they were officially recognized as Ascenders. Considering that she knows the implications of Matt's Talents why would she stop assisting them now? They're still her students, and, given what's to come, she has many tiers and tens of thousands of millennia of experience to draw upon in order to help them. She might have a passing interest in certain people from Soerilia, but MLA (and their circumstances) are, quite literally, a once in a lifetime occurrence.

C_Mantis

Its more that value is 2.25 to 1 but the empire will allow people to exchange 1 for 1 so as to not fuck the poorest people over. Pretty much everyone gets a boost of wealth when the change over happens.

SwiftFate

I like these chapters because it shows how difficult it is for different cultures/beliefs & people to adapt or acclimate to another. It's true as much in real life as it is here. You just need to look at the unrest in Europe/UK right now as an example. I like how you're handling it bit by bit and it kind of shows us how the Republic has in a way neutered it's own people by refusing them access to an inherent aspect of the realm itself. They are basically playing god, trying to implement a system of governance where their planets are in their own little universes, when they are in fact not.

A B

On a slightly related side note, I think it's going to be hilarious when the folks on planet meet their Duke's bond. "What do you mean you found her in a rift. Her egg? She hatched? From an actual egg?" And then find out the other Duke is a bird. A burning bird. Sometimes a small ocean of blood ... er, Ichor. Lol

Nicholas Anile

Great chapter! Suggested edit: you say the currency ratio is 1 to 2.25 twice & 1 to 1 once

A B

Edit suggestion: galoped -> galloped Also, I was wondering what the next arc after the war would be, never guessed this. Really excited to see where you take it. Thx for keeping the series interesting and engaging!

wanderer117

@Hans I mean ya, non citizens could be property, look at Rome. Or second class citizens or legal residents or in this case I guess a protected pre-essence civilization.

Tom

Don't forget Luna was adamant on no more students. Do you think she'd risk being close enough to so many newly awakened that she'd be Compelled to better them?

Jacob

Did anyone else feel like this chapter touches upon the Star Trek argument, on the importance of the Prime Directive?

Alex

Aiden formed his Concept by accident at the peak of Tier 4, he talks about it in chapter 332: "Aiden remembered when he’d first formed his Concept. He didn’t even know what he had done at first, but he had been fighting his way through a rift in a supply run. He’d been stuck at the peak of Tier 4 for months..." The 'he didn't even know what he had done at first' suggests that Aiden might have had zero clue about Concepts at the time, in which case Yosef's beating him Tier wise. Low Tier cultivators get amnesia when they first touch their Concept if they don't do it EXACTLY right, the fact that Yosef remembers what he did is utterly absurd. Doubly so because he has no idea what Concepts are.

Keifru

I've been turning over this chapter in my head and with the leaders having a liason for helping the transition makes me wonder. This presumes a generally hierarchal, large top-down organization of societies. I wonder about a more general collectivist organization- if everyone is sort of a commune or nomadic groups. This 'gradual unveiling' is presuming a lot of work and effort on specific few native people of the planet and mostly just handing information over and overseeing they meet deadlines. Not to say a more decentralized organization of society has zero administration or capacity to distribute goods, but there is very much a lack of "only a handful" of... ugh... *shrivels up* 'Great Persons'. There still seems to be a huge amount of secrecy, general populations still dont know about the situation (maybe? healing rods in hospitals maybe being the most obvious sign of something weird going on, depending on how they're being spun or used)

CringeWorthyStudios

Holy shit, touching his concept already!? Not quite DW levels of early but I can totally see him becoming DW’s apprentice with his ‘flow’ concept or something. Thanks for the chapter!

CringeWorthyStudios

Both at the same time is also possible. We’ve seen a few inspirations off Aspects and even Intents too. Matt technically had one from his concept after Minkala as well…

Matt H

And, of course, Luna is standing behind the administrator making notes about the performance of EVERYONE.

Kain

Or on the cusp of an inspiration

Tommy

I think it’s cos we are all excited for their plans to go to shit when Matt unleashes the fury upon them and their petty schemes!

Alex

True, but when Matt first touches his phrase he forgets about it immediately as part of that whole "you're too weak for this shit and you didn't do it right" thing that happens with low tiers when they brush up against their Concept accidentally. Yosef is not only touching on his Concept at Tier 1, he remembers doing it, and he intends to explore the sensation further - all without being prompted to do so by a higher Tier, or even being told that Concepts are a thing. That's a truly astonishing level of talent.

Hans

Jet they still claim ownership of the planets. If they aren't citicens, how can the Republic have authority over them? As property? Also in the Republic, the vast majority of the people are left in the dark, while only a verry small minority of cultivators are permitted to advance, while the vast majority is kept uneducated with no way out. Though I have to admit to beeing a bit biased, because, I really dislike the republic, with the secrecy for their population.

Thransk

My guy got Navier Stokes injected directly into his brain

Sean Shivers

Ya i think it's an econimic consideration more than anything. The empire needs to equip everyone while the republic focuses on specialists. The only time it becomes economically viable to make ammo is when its talent boost and/or used in a specialist capacity... even the sniper only really used a few shots in the whole war.

Arlano

Is the guys already feeling his concept forming?

C_Mantis

yeah fixed.

Aaron Hardin

I think a skill that males guns more effective is required to have guns scale properly, most people don’t have that so the problems around guns not scaling is more a general rule than a iron clad law.

Droog

“the feeling of increased power… was incredibly additive.” Addictive?

Alex

@TimeDrawsNigh depends what you mean by 'Gun', the Corpies use magic blasters, which are basically wizard's staves with the form factor of a gun. The Republic uses actual guns with bullets.

Austin Koos

Ohhh I was thinking an inspiration but a concept could also be possible

TimeDrawsNigh

Thought it was the Corps that use guns extensively?

wanderer117

When dealing with republics it's important to remember who the citizens are. Hint, they aren't people kept in ignorance of the republic's existence. From a certain point of view all republics without universal citizenships are various sized oligarchies.

Alex

Yes, the Republic uses guns very effectively - much moreso than the Empire does. The Empire is culturally averse to guns because they have a high material cost to be used effectively. It's likely that the Republic's investment in the tech has driven down the cost substantially compared to what you'd see in the Empire, so the material cost would be less of a factor over there.

Hans

Jea, would be nice, but I must admit I can't imagine how pissed I were, if it turned out immortality were kept secret by an oligarchy that calls itself a republic.

Luciaron

The republic uses guns pretty effectively right? I mean, the one person to die in their war team does to a sniper. Maybe less effective for assault rifle style.

Callis93

Personally I think it all taps into our hope and dreams that earth is secretly a veil world 🤣🤣

C_Mantis

changed.

Malikear

I love these world building moments so much. You manage to make these events so much more grounded when you show us how the people being shoved into this new and magical reality react. Keep up the great work :)

Tristan R Mitchell

I don't think it was a wave concept but rather a movement or momentum one. And I don't think he will be the next duke waters. Waters is a genius of domains, while this guy seems to just have a synergistic concept and talent. Basically what the guilds call a "power", he is instinctively forming.

Xarow

Suggested edit as Tara comes across as quite the stickler. This sentence threw me a little with the phrasing. ‘food was to be made available for cheap, but Tara couldn’t help but worry.’ To - food was to be made available at low reasonable prices, but Tara couldn’t help worrying.

Alex

It feels like there needs to be some extenuating circumstances clause for the Path age limits - it feels bad that someone doesn't get a shot at the Path because they 'fell off' by not hitting Tier 1 by 15 because they didn't even know what the hell cultivation was and their government actively prevented them from awakening.

John Balman

Interesting

wanderer117

You could keep the training with wands / focuses shaped like guns with kinetic/simple elemental spells. More of a transitional tactic then a Strat that can take them to immortality. You could even take the corporation line and have support staff making the enchanted special ammo.

noah radencic

Thanks kantus

TimeDrawsNigh

soldier, but the Barebacks, the special force equivalent of the Ravens, were just as good at them === Typo: just as good as them

Darune Albane

And him finding out because of his boss reading off how he did

Xarow

Great chapter thank you!

Havokk

sadly he would be too old to enter a playpen for the path and truly become the next DW but that doesnt mean he cant catch the attention of Matt and be cultivated to become a pinnacle elite in the future

wanderer117

I understand where Tara is coming from even if it isn't how I feel. When people expect something their whole life, even if that thing isn't something they want, many people make their peace with it. The longer they have accepted it as inevitable the more mental inertia builds up and the more it feels normal. People fight against changes to their normal. Changing their normal takes effort, years or decades of assumptions need to revaluated and no one like putting in 'unnecessary' work. Older people also have a harder time changing, like biologically it's harder for them.

Hoid

Loving this arc! I hope we get to see Yosef again, there’s a lot of interesting character there.

Darkarma

Or they'll start commissioning higher-tier guns from their rift proceeds.

C_Mantis

yeah some people are going to love the rift stuff and others dont. Not too many in the middle but Soerilia is going over wayyy better than expected tbh.

C_Mantis

fixed ty

wanderer117

The guild / portal plots are fine but there is something about the Soerilia chapters that is extra. I'm rooting for Tara, even if she doesn't feel like she's on the same side as the MCs her side isn't really opposed to their side.

wanderer117

It was thick and heavy like syrup, and the feeling of increased power that flooded into his limbs as he sent the essence to his physical core was incredibly additive. suggested edit It was thick and heavy like syrup, and the feeling of increased power that flooded into his limbs as he sent the essence to his physical core was incredibly addictive.

Abriel Blauer

Just for reference Matt touched his endless concept for the first time when he was Tier 1 while in the goblin rift in Challenge Mode (just before getting Aster's egg)

Kenneth

I think it's an issue of training. They need to start on the rifting immediately but peoples training in swords and bows isn't usually at that level. It looks like there is a world wide program getting built though, so that's good.

Alex

I like Tara's idea of preserving Soerilian culture with immortals - a culture is its people after all, so it makes sense to inspire the young generation to become the living legacy of their home. It's insane to me that she hates the idea of cultivation and immortality. I can totally understand that people don't make it to immortality because they don't have the means to be carried and they don't have the temperament for combat, but rejecting the idea of living forever on principle? Immortality isn't even living forever - not really - it's having the freedom to decide when you're ready to die instead of letting old age make that choice from you.

C_Mantis

fixed now ty.

Kenneth

Oh man, Looks like the captain is going to be reaaaaly good with his concept. Might even have an inspiration in the near future. I like this team already.

Sean McClain

Matt should disguise himself (though just going as himself (at law tier) in civi clothes could work and help forge a sword for him or give out a skill shard to this guy and push him to a playpen like his late mentor.

Shmigit

Huh, it almost seems like Yosef is already nudging up against a concept.

MehGyver

A great read. Only one thing I'd like to point out: where you used the word "anamatha", it should actually read as "anathema". Sadly, "anamatha" is not actually a word in English...though (according to Google) it is, evidently, the title of a song by the band Astral Waves, falling somewhere in the Ambient, Trance, and House genres.

Anime Problem

I like these special forces Guys I hope some of them eventually make it to be Elites and can fight along side Matt in the inevitable war

C_Mantis

fixed ty

Abriel Blauer

it seemed anamatha to what was right and proper it seemed anathema to what was right and proper

Tom

I kinda wanted the whole thing with him saying about it being impossible to sneak up on him now, to be followed by an Empire PoV of one of the administrators standing behind him making notes at T35 speeds

Adam Charron

Thanks for the chapter! The alternate POV chapters are always my favourite.

Alex

Yosef's touching on his Concept already? at Tier 1? Instinctively?!? Holy shit. If he's resonating with the idea of a wave (and he doesn't end up dying early because the political leaders of Soerilia have no idea what the hell they're doing) he'll probably end up as some legendary water mage. If Yosef ends up as the next Duke Waters when he got traded to the Empire in a peace deal I think Janet will lose her entire shit.

Tribal Geek

Agreed

LazyF0x02

I look forward to seeing Fabian mess up and getting his just desserts. The others seem interesting and well-meaning, but ineffective against the weight of the Empire’s history.

Bob Bryan

Fabian is a fool. Tara, her I can understand and can't blame her. At least she lost that stupid, make a resistance, idea. Just would of gotten innocent people killed for no reason. Last group seemed normal and we will see how they do.

RedLeaf

Looks like the ...warning...about hot weapons isn't getting through to everyone. That's going to bite someone, and probably soon.

Shmigit

Thank you for the chapter!!

Asattor

Thanks for the chapter! 😁

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis Ah yes, taking advantage of goodwill. Add in that he noted how quickly they could discover the fraud and don't seem to understand that. He knows about warnings and about consequences from his own rule, but hasn't connected that it applies to him. -He did last longer than expected, but not likely to be long enough. I am curious if there will be any pseudo-rebellions. Not agains the Empire but against the current country rulers. If a repressed country will rise up with the promise of a less famine inducing ruler who can stop bullets in their tracks. IRL I think, with a fair bit of logic, that some rulers exist only because they have all the guns and a mass of people can't really beat that unless they themselves are willing to die, as 90% of them would likely die and few are willing to go first. -Would be cool to see Matt get to be the good guy again. Not just the new dictator taking over democracies. Sure those democracies aren't guaranteed to be good but I am at least used to the idea having a basis in the side of good. I do enjoy seeing Tara's PoV. A good person with a different viewpoint. She is Janet if Janet hadn't been introduced trying to rationalize plot armor. Yeah, thousand of years of admin, it takes all sorts to run a GP. Sounds dreary... but maybe preferable to the constant risk of death. -I wonder if immortal HR is a significantly better system. It is hard to accept that general welfare is beneficial for immortals. It just needs to be understood that it is an immortal timeframe and as such more people living in good conditions means more people in general and that is expansion. A greater eventual amount of immortals. In her defense other immortals are still figuring that out. (Also happy mortals leads to happy immortals, instead of unhappy immortals who want revenge or to destroy the system.) Interesting that she gravitated towards teaching others about her culture. Letting others become immortal instead of herself. And also, it is hard to instill the importance of culture in people, particularly in times of great change and when that change may be for the general betterment. -Ah good, not the young. Nor the old, as despite them knowing the culture they have les physical benefits to advancing... though they may have more drive to not die? I wonder if this world has an olympics, or other large tournaments that focus on the martial abilities. That would even allow for it to be a diverse group of different cultures. Maybe various renfaires, though we really don't know much about how this world differs from ours. How ingrained is the war, the two combatants in the large war seemed fairly quickly to put aside their differences. Huh, and Tara doesn't only focus on her own culture. She is practicing what she preaches. I know it's silly, but I do like the Earth phrases dropped in. Faustian bargain, here there be monsters. It is just enough to make me curious if Earth exists, or existed here, despite Mantis outright saying otherwise. I know it's just the easiest way to say the idea, not making things weird by making up a new phrase that seems so odd on its lonesome. I do enjoy the cut-off. Ignoring politicians is just a common thought people seem to enjoy. I wonder if the feeling of water was the awakening machine, his mental interpretation, or his Talent. I do like this new look into the realm. A more relatable mortal experience. Less cutting through them like butter and more struggle. I think that was a bit missing in the series recently. All the opponents are weak or are like cutting the air, impossible to get satisfaction from. It isn't just a future ascender having it easy but normal mortals smudging forwards as best they can. -This is what Matt forgot, and honestly never really experienced being a normal mortal. He was an orphan but the magic was mundane to him. I guess this is closer to the portal fantasy. The sort where it was an apocalypse of a whole country or the earth is now gaining magic. -I like it :)


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