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Chapter 358

🕑 Added 2024-09-06 18:58:00 +0000 UTC

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KnightRider007

He's a caricature of the "self-made" millionaires who somehow don't realise that receiving the best possible education, access to a pre-built network of contacts, and a large "loan" from their parents *may* have given them a bit of an advantage...

nolan saylor

Someone being a spy would be delightful. That can give a bunch of fun options. Harper is the most obvious. It would certainly make any future meetings more interesting to read with the idea in mind. “Gentlemen, there is no need to worry: our plan is flawless. The Emperor will never see it coming.” —Grandmaster Ouroboros of the Order of Unholy Obsidian, later revealed to have been Dread Emperor Traitorous all along -A Practical Guide to Evil

Julie Smith

There's a classic trope of 'an unreliable narrator'. In the group of five senses conspirators, it seems we have five unreliable narrators. Smell did give some correct reconnaissance on Matt's guild, but he also misled them about his interests. I don't know what to believe from any of them. I like the earlier take someone had that one of them is a spy for the Empire. Regardless, they're playing with fire and will get burnt.

Julie Smith

That was my guess. The Baron's planet is especially bad for some reason.

David Tart

Is it just me or does this sentence need to be fixed or at least tweaked: "After all, why would they subsidize something when a superior replacement existed and was cheap enough to produce you don’t really need subsidies at all beyond start-up capital"

Julie Smith

Wheels within wheels. Matt's aura rift plates go live. One royal is going to make a killing off them. Five tier 40 somethings are plotting to throw a stick into Matt, Liz, and Aster's spokes. That bodes ill for them in the long term but in the short term, things will get tougher for the guild. However, they won't have the vulnerabilities everyone expects. Then there's Soerilia, simmering on the back burner. Things will blow up there sooner than later. MLA will abandon the Roland method, since the leaders aren't following it for faster, more direct methods. I can hardly wait for the explosion.

A B

(replying to Zack) Yes, that would be what we call a grammatical error. Their existence does not mean the actual rules of grammar do not exist. Similarly, some people misspell words, but that does not mean there is no correct spelling ( and yes, people have argued that with me as well) Although, thinking about it more, that could be good usage. Using an uncountable t measure could be done to express that the number isn't something they think they could count. And grains are, after all countable, it's just not practical to do so. Same with waterolecules and other "uncountable" things. So over could refer to an amount of people or other collection that would normally be countable, to imply that in the present case, it is thought to be impractical to count. I do love that language is flexible this way.

A B

(replying to C. Mantis) Apologies if it came out a bit didactic or whatever. On some edit suggestions where it involves some obscure grammar rules, I put extra info, as much for the other readers as for the author, who may have just been writing so fast it came out the way it did, typed. I know I've typed some strange things I only found much later.

C_Mantis

Today I learned.

Zack

I disagree in this case. When you are talking about demographics or groups of people, they often end up counted like those other 'uncountables'.

A B

Yep. Ones of those subtle grammar rules you just pick up from usage and never really think about. Uncountable stuff tend to get measured indirectly like by volume or weight - a cubic meter of sand, give kg of sugar, etc because no one is going to count each individual grain, and so on.

Simon

Normally I don't like alternate POV chapters, but I'm even looking forward to them here.

Simon

I wish you hadn't pointed that out. I will always notice now. Just like less and fewer.

arsha

Why do that when once Matt talent gets revealed, their clans will get relegated to hill billies and fall apart after not getting mana like everyone else

Drew Tunison

I greatly appreciate the fact that the schemers think the royals and the emperor are funding Matt and not Matt himself. Cant wait for them all to be forcefully ascended because of their schemes.

A B

Edit suggestion: amount of hereditary nobles -> number of hereditary nobles 'amount' is used for uncountable nouns like sand, sugar, liquids, etc.

Alex

Enrique's philosophy is self-serving, illogical drivel. The simple fact is that everybody is different - what works amazingly for one person isn't guaranteed to work for anyone else, and in some cases what works specularly for one person might be actively harmful for another. Take Melinda as an example - her Tier 3 Talent grows with time, so being on the Path was actively harming her growth, even though the Path is touted as this amazing thing that lets people reach their full potential. Some people just need time - they need to reach immortality so that they can find who they really are without the threat of death looming over their heads; I'm sure a significant fraction of people who use aura potions will break their Concept and make a new one once they reach immortality - and that's kind of the point, aura potions exist to give a chance to people who didn't have one before (kind of like how Agatha gave commoners a chance to cultivate when the old dynasty didn't allow them to, and just look how that turned out). Even if the people who use aura potions only make it to Tier 15 and retire to immortal planets as hedonistic wastrels that's still a huge benefit for the Empire, because immortals shit out a crapload of mana just by existing. There's literally no way aura potions is a bad thing unless you're an arrogant little manchild who's terrified that letting more people reach immortality means you don't get to be the super special boy in a world of mortals anymore.

Abriel Blauer

The Marquess and his position toward aura Rift and similar alternative way to create a concept, including Minkala The things that makes me laugh is Duke Water. It is said that he finished 17th at his Tier 10 tournament on the Path. He wasn't such a monster, or even on the radar for most people until his Minkala run, when he got the best 7 floors in the ideal order for concept. It was said several times that Duke Water became a monster in great part because of Minkala. Also, while aura potion and Bottled Concept are easy to get (just needs money), to get your Concept from Minkala you need to reach the 4th floor and gather enough Genesis Energy to buy the Floor reward. I'll say whoever got his concept that way really worked for it.

Isiah Debarros

The worst part is that like I'm pretty sure that everything but the Forge when it helps you get a concept it will be up to you to decide what the concept you get depending on the assistance right like with an ascension it's overall the best it gets you into that space and you can decide what feels right what you think choose your concept hell even the forge would give a very good concept at tier 11 but people that enter at that tier wouldn't need one

Javidom

probably since breaking the realm barrier let's you get a semi unfiltered look at the fundamentals of reality, or it's framework even if you can at most subconciously glean some inspiration from that, that should be more than enough to build a strong foundation for any concept honestly, this stuff just shows how much of a freaking savant Waters is

Andromeda Adams

Thank you for the chapter.

tem

yesssss more of this please

Darthnarciss

Yay, big numbers and percentages! The baron even touched on his own miscalculation, comparing his population with just East Flower's

C_Mantis

They are a bit more than that. They actively help you make a Domain stage. As for the how no one is exactly sure but something about breaking the realm barrier is good for stuff like that.

gmc

Trying to sabotage use of aura rifts / potions is a supremely stupid move that will see the demise of noble lines that pursue it. When auras allow everyone to get a Concept, societies that ignore them will simply be overrun. Societies that utilize auras will be able to have 50+% of their population above level 5 and able to reach level 14. In the recently concluded war, the T25 and T35 battlefields were determined by the quality of the Ascenders. The T15 battlefield was determined by numbers. Aura's multiply the pool of soldiers for the T15 wars by a factor of 16 (6% on capital worlds) to more than 33 (Baron Avci's world). The battlefields of the past war had the Empire outnumbered 3 to 1. The next war will see 15x the T15's on the empire side - and probably closer to 30. That would see the Empire outnumbering their opponents 5 to 1 or more. Furthermore, the economic power stemming from a T14-15 based economy versus a T4 economy are huge. Economically and militarily, non-Aura societies will get eaten alive. True, some people do not care about immortality. However, there are also plenty of people that want immortality (or T5 even) that cannot achieve it. Think about all the t14 old folks that hit Minkalla to try to get immortality. A percentage will seek immortality and even if that percentage halves - you will see 10x as many people able to try for it as a result of auras. A further point here is that aura potions are superior to bottle concepts and make it more likely to get T15.

dragon

correct me if i'm wrong, but... don't ascensions and shards just let you not get the whole pass out/ amnesia thingy when touching on your concept, so you can just keep testing phrases/images the whole time?

MinE

Honest similar to Janet he kind of strawmans the argument that natural domains are better by not actually proving his point. I mean if he just funded a competition where cultivators with “natural” domains were pitted against the pale imitations he could at least prove he kinda has a point. He’s the worst kind of extremist where he so sure of his belief that he makes people believe the opposite. It’s been stated several time that self created concepts are better, besides Minkalla granted concepts for tier 11s and 12s, but since he so extreme as to argue against ascensions and shards of reality it becomes ridiculous to even think of agreeing with him.

Elaine

good chappie

C_Mantis

Same, I managed to avoid it through working from home and getting the shots but the con got me with it finally. Thankfully im feeling better already.

C_Mantis

The six percent Leon quoted isnt *wrong* but its not what that Baron see's on his planet.

C_Mantis

Fixed sorry. I was trying to update some spelling errors and such but didn't delete the old stuff.

C_Mantis

Fixed sorry. I was trying to update some spelling errors and such but didn't delete the old stuff.

CringeWorthyStudios

“Those who made their Concept with external aid were but pitiful shades of a proper Cultivator. Ascensions, shards of reality, aura, or worst of all Minkalla, produced whelps unworthy of the everlasting life they’d been given. How someone could be so strong and yet so foolish was a mystery Enrique couldn’t comprehend, but the damage was done.” > Does… does this idiot realise that the Ascenders that he touts as the pinnacle of his thing on natural concepts being best used an Ascension to finish their concepts? Nope? Yeah, that checks out. Wonderful chapter though. I loved the PoVs. Thanks for the chapter!

CringeWorthyStudios

I dunno, with how some of the immortals we’ve seen act ‘the race for immorality’ isn’t too far off…

b51015

Have to remember the Emperor Has his Father’s talent to feel out the future. I’m pretty sure Matt Will manage on his own for the most part, Plenty of ways for him to get support organically too. I look forward to what I assume will be Aster Sitting back and “Playfully” defending Against any “tooth breaking” until she and her “no nonsense” seneschal have what they need to legally wipe the floor with them 😆

Andrew K

Could be interesting to see a PoV in the future where a spy from another great power is trying to *help* something MLA are up to, based on a theory that whatever it is will actually destabilize/weaken the Empire. Bonus points if the theory is shown to be partially based on misinformation planted/leaked by the Empire's counterintelligence strategy.

Username

It seems to me that the chapter contains the same text twice

ByLAWphoto

Looks like content was put in twice. I also got the new, hip COVID and was sick for 7 weeks. If it lingers more than 3, go back to the doctor!

Sean Shivers

Funny af header. Sad to have missed you at dc

Vantanova

Thanks for the chapter!

Derze

"It could help any of his grandchildren or great grandchildren who did decide to join the rat race for immorality" immorality->immortality

SunStar

Ascender Titan's concept is partially Ascension fueled. Matt will be T30 before too long. Perhaps the Marquess would like to personally affirm his beliefs in the inferiority of people who use such aids for their concept at that time. Surely he'll jump at that opportunity, right? Right?

Bryce Daniel

Hope you get over Covid it’s a crappy virus. I wish I got to see you at dragon con this year but guess I’ll just have to wait till next year thank you for the chapter!!

Weirwood

It's always interesting to see how people at different ranks view the changes.

Charlottef

I'm still not sure Enrique's strategy would work though. As shown by the section of the chapter with Afasa Paea, most people don't care for the race for immortality and are just looking for an extended lifespan, which the aura potions will give them. All he will be doing is discouraging those that are looking for strength, not just longevity.

wanderer117

Enrique is falling victim into his own propaganda / preconceptions. Citizen average tier correlates directly with a world's economic prosperity. It doesn't matter if 99% of the population are civilian immortals, useless at combat. The consequences of convincing his commoner population that aura potions are bad will result in his world(s) becoming economic backwaters.

Tommy

Oooh I really hope team Bucket have a good spy / information network. If they have set something Seriously comprehensive up then all of these machinations will be for naught and these pathetic fools will taste Titans Fury! TFTC

Jonathan Robichaux

It was great meeting you at the booth! I was lucky enough to have gotten covid the week before and so I got to enjoy it in my little immune window lol

wanderer117

Immortality is T15, but common wisdom is that the main bottleneck is concept creation. Something like 90% of those that make their own concept reach T15. Bottled concepts move the bottle neck from T4 to T14, and that's where all the Minkalla graybeards come from.

Charlottef

It is possible, as the quote I mentioned above from book 5 is Leon speaking to Matt. However, the capital worlds are not specifically mentioned at all in that conversation. It also mentioned that of that 6 percent, about 10 percent (so 0.6 percent of the population) reach tier 25. And 60 percent of that 0.6 percent of the population (so 0.36 percent of the population) gets to tier 45. I vaguely remember a different chapter that said that 1 percent get to tier 14, which would contradict the above quote, but I have not found that yet. I think it was around the time they went to minkala.

Jeff091

hi, thanks for the new chapter typo feely-->freely ######## immorality-->immortality ########### learned forward -->leaned forward

Moontunnels

Sick with COVID

Moontunnels

I got sick. I blame TJ Reynolds because of her “sore throat”

Apep

I think she even had her complete concept with the age of 9. She just could not realize it before peak tier 4 and it shattered when she awakened. She mentioned that after folded reflections.

Cam

Thanks for the chapter!

RedeyeA

Enrique's rhetoric will certainly contribute to the deaths of many, but diamond prices are mostly because of the monopoly and now oligopoly of the De Beers Group. Nobles with regressive attitudes about aura granted concepts will by definition not control the market of aura rifts, so they can't directly sabotage things. If the speculation of the future price of aura potions in this chapter is correct, most people who can buy these will be adults several decades old. They will be less likely to be blinded by pride than people the age of Matt when he got his concept. The people most likely to resist aura potions will be pathers.

hachetnif

Great, chapter enjoyed it. Like The conspiracy people talking about events unfolding And changing things that effect them. Which they don't want, so they're gonna be a road obstacle. But at the same time, I think that they Have not done they're Research on these ascenders. I don't know what the past ascenders. Goals were and why they wanted to ascend, but for at least Matt One of the biger reasons that he did it was to Make wonders for the Realm. I know the other characters have secondary goals other than becoming Ascender bet Not to the extent as matt

BurnNote

It's got a basis, but there's a crucial difference. There's no big player IRL who wants lower diamond prices. Here, all the biggest players really want this, for both ideological and practical reasons. They'll have very talented people watching for this, and will come down on it. Enrique is just smart enough to build a gallows, but not quite enough to realize it's his.

Charlottef

"Those who made their Concept with external aid were but pitiful shades of a proper Cultivator. Ascensions, shards of reality, aura, or worst of all Minkalla, produced whelps unworthy of the everlasting life they’d been given.". The Marquis doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that growing up around those with concepts makes it easier to get one, does he! This was mentioned buy Liz when they were on the training planet, as to why she had had most of her concept since she was a child.

Shukketsu

You are the fourth creator that Aunt Corinna visited in the last week or so, I hope that is just coincidence and not a sign for things to come

Mick Gormley

I bet Harper is posing as one of the high tier conspirators. (Or at least has an agent in there). I don’t remember them accomplishing anything specific at his own tier and there’s tons of potential with this story line.

Ryan Romano

Yep, they're all personally free to fuck around and find out

Luciaron

Now that I’ve read the chapter, really digging these political chapters. The crew is in for a different sort of battle from what they’re used to

austin kutz

I thought that 6% only applied to people born on capital worlds

Charlottef

"There were no good estimates for how many people made it to Tier 5, let alone Tier 15, but it certainly wasn’t the 6% that Empire officials so often liked to quote". Is this supposed to mean that 6 percent reach tier 5 or 6 percent reach tier 15? In book 5 it was stated "it's something like six percent of the population that's expected to reach immortality"

austin kutz

Lmao, the monologing to her corpse thing was my comment in that chapter. Pretty funny that these nobles are now referencing it

dakota downey

Ty for the chapter hope you get feeling better

Alex

Judging by how effective the “lab diamonds aren’t real diamonds” bullshit is at maintaining the price of natural diamonds, it’s depressingly likely that Enrique’s plan to smear aura concepts will work.

Corac

Oh all the back door intrigue is awesome

Michael Younger

Too many Enriques in the real world

Isiah Debarros

Yeah, I don't know how you see Matt monologue over corpse based on principal and Decide that you need to deal with them

Isiah Debarros

Yeah, no it's just a weird to flex about. Like Aura helps you find your concept if you have the right type it can be just as good as forming your own. It's just about the speed when you get assistance from something else hell a lot of people can just break their concept and get a better one after going to the Forge

Matt H

Yes, the Emperor seems to favor a degree of personal freedom within the laws. But at the same time he's betting the entire Empire's future on Matt. Anything that significantly harms or hinders Matt's endeavors is an existential threat to their future. More importantly, delays to any inventions or advancements now are far more detrimental than delays ten thousand years from now since there will be less time to capitalize on exponential growth.

strmtrupa

Feel better Mantis! Tftc

Joshua Jernigan

I dont know if that's true about aster I think it was just she was there and got a slight boost. Helen in that book or the book after talked about how all bonds have a concept thrust upon them so she broke hers.

MinE

It’s odd how they had a superiority complex against any form of assistance when all three of their newest Ascenders used an Ascension to form their concept. Matt and Liz used it to get their perfect image and Aster also needed some help. P.s. I wonder if they look down on bloodline or talent based domains as well.

Ryan Romano

Manny did tell Matt that he could do whatever he wanted in response and he'd cover for him

crusaderstar

Fun chapter! Looking forward to Aster's Ice Liberation!

Ryan Romano

Well, it seems like this cabal is going to be wiped out

Thomas Todd

I doubt the empire will do much to stop them unless it gets out of hand or they damage important projects or get close to discovering Matt's mana. The Empire is pretty big on his people being free to work within his rules barring a few big things he won't allow.

Matt H

Harper! It seems we've got some roaches for you to uncover and neutralize! Edit: eliminate to neutralize since that's more in line with the established universe.

James Townsend

Covid really has been going around! I finally got hit with it a few weeks ago - only took me 4 and a half years for my turn D: It SUCKS

QuakDoktor

Can’t wait for the follow up in 30 chapters where one of them is dead, all their plans have mostly failed and they’re at each other’s throats

LazyF0x02

Interesting reading about the but arguing against aura, because the strongest do seem to show their strength/talent early on, making aura seem unnecessary for elites. In a universe where differences between tiers are so huge, fodder is unnecessary, but an increase in population and interest in ascension does lead to more powerhouses.

Bob Bryan

Little Barty and his sense are in for a very rude awakening. They have absolutely no idea who they are f-ing with.

Colton Horton

Oof. Mee too, mantis. I feel your pain. The 'Rona' was strong this week.

Luciaron

Covid is still pretty serious. More people died in the US from Covid last week than died in 9/11.

Trevor Mergen

Thanks!

Asattor

Thanks for the chapter!

eloi Boco

Mantis coming in clutch with the backlog!! Hope you get better soon

Kasamuri

Thanks for the chapter

Tommy

We back! Let’s go! TFTC!

nolan saylor

Thanks for the chapter Mantis! Thanks Dae... though he can't see it :P I didn't expect another PoV chapter, but I do rather enjoy it. Amused by the different flavors of rifts, 'sunrise' light rift. I am curious what other flavors there will be, but the naming kinda make it feel like this is either tea or weed. -paying off 10 years of loans in a single shipment really doesn't help it not feel like drugs. Curious that the first is donated to charity. Sends a good message but feels odd. It's the little things that get me, like 10 years of loans in a single shipment. It feels like a lot but in immortal terms that may feel like a month's payment. The Marquess does have some points. Still, a bunch of T15s are a larger source of profit, even if they are weak, than those same people dying at a low tier decades ago. -I do question if the Sects will spread aura rifts for that reasoning. I wonder if any Young Masters are allowed to not have a concept by T5? People in power telling people without power that they are being kept down for their own good. The Marquess is a noble/politician indeed. -I had a funny thought about some noble being named Boomer who mocked people for not tiering up when they were able to, ignoring all the benefits they had from those in power helping. I feel this guy could've fit the bill. -It's partially because he calls people commoners and so I assume he is not a first generation noble who got to this position by his own merit, thus he complains of others getting a helping hand when he had his path to immortality handed to him. More reasonable world building with people thrilled, annoyed, and ambivalent. Ah, and angry. I know it is hard to make assumptions when there is only so many words for "group of people' but I am curious if there other clans in the Clans that are a whole bloodline. Specifically a bloodline that is not dwarves. It's always amusing to read people complaining when their profits/interests are hindered and then the person immediately comment on other things that hurt others and complain. They take advantage of the travel mana being freely given but complain about not being able to take the profits from it. -Well, stuff like this is funny until you recall that it doesn't feel fake. People, or more towards large companies, really work so hard to stomp on anyone getting ahead. Stealing ideas and profits away from people unable to fight back without being bankrupted into still not being able to fight back. I wonder if it will be someone like this who figures out Matt's unlimited mana. Not an enemy GP spy but a traitor. Someone who wants to be a big fish in the small pond instead of medium fish in a medium pond. -Amusing that Bartholomew keeps making notes of others. It really feels like he is preparing to turn traitor on his coconspirators. It wouldn't thus feel surprising if he then turned traitor on the whole empire. -Though stuff like Touch mentioning being an aperologist feels like an easy fake tell, something phrased to indicate they are one when in actuality they are not. Perhaps they have a relation to someone who is at best. Bart goes on to show how to not out your true identity by not bringing up Wraith. Ah yes, cutting the funding will surely work. -It really will seem like they have Manny's unyielding support with Matt keeping his guild funded. Ah yes, deliberately causing incidents. Gotta love politics. The idea of not directly pissing them off but wearing them down is very much like Yun Me's strategy of not getting their heart pumping. -I do wonder if Matt's 'unending' and 'dauntless' will come to apply to persisting in the face of political combat and not only direct combat. It would be fun to see these guys again, maybe with different false names and PoV to force us to figure it out. Maybe the PoV helps a bit with thoughts about the identity of our current PoV, thinking them antagonistic towards Wraith in particular and noting to review who her political opponents are. A fun bit of karma to have Bart and his people get tossed under the (transport mana powered) bus, and even agree to it, after wanting others to be made into roadblocks for Titan and Torch. Let others feel the pain while we profit isn't so fun when you're not on the side profiting. -Perhaps Bart will be removed from leadership and Aster's winter wolf would-be suitor is raised as heir apparent as a means to appease her. Or maybe they assume the boy is too used to being walked over by her. Well, fun all around.


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