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Chapter 362

🕑 Added 2024-09-20 18:59:00 +0000 UTC

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KnightRider007

No, they’re referencing Matt’s attack, which was the Mana Beam. The 5 million MPS was the metric of the power needed to *counter* the Light Beam - Matt can’t inherently detect how much mana is in an enemy’s attack, but he can judge his own. Read it as: “How much mana was that angel throwing out, roughly? That was a pretty beefy [Mana Beam] (you were using to counter it).” “(I was using) about 5 million MPS, yeah.”

Julie Smith

Delightful chapter. I forgot how much I enjoyed rift delves. It's staggering how powerful the team is; Level 28 rift was relatively easy for them.

Alex

“there were a dozen or so worlds between Tier 43 and 46 somewhere out in the depths of Chaotic Space, they were all unimaginably far away, with only his connection to the Realm itself telling him they were there.” — Allister, Chapter 278. Tier 50’s can detect the existence and location of high Tier worlds from anywhere in the Realm, so the plan to set up a super secret Ascender base powered by Matt’s mana deep in chaotic space wouldn’t work at any Tier where it might actually be valuable. That’s not even mentioning the fact that Manny would be able to go to the Ascender base if he copied Allie’s Talents, since he gets all her waypoints when he copies her Talents.

Kelly Bryan

Thats the official name, everyone in The Empire just calls it 'The Capital'

Stanley Griffin

That would be great, but there is a Caveat. The other ascenders would have to know about Matt’s Talent and that would be bad news Bears

Jake Thorpe

No I remember Harper wanted to watch over Matt but they didn't because one of the royals suddenly dropping off the map would set off alarm and send the other powers into a frenzy trying to find them. Also the Tier 50s need to gather together when one Tiers up so the other Tier 50 is seen ascending to make sure he doesn't hide in the shadows and start fucking around. They also watch out for others trying to Tier up at the same time implying that if it went unnoticed they wouldn't know. So it should only be the actual Tier up that they notice.

Jake Thorpe

They should definitely make a secret Ascender base in deep chaotic space with Allies talent. Matt could just create any amount of high Tier rifts with only them knowing.

Robbie

Think I remember reading it called the Sophron maginex. After the emperors family name.

Jacob

Does the Capital have a name?

C_Mantis

Mostly its just being active on the discord and around when a new slot opens up lol.

C_Mantis

So he has two high Tier worlds. The Capital which is the capital of its kingdom level title as well as the empire level title, and a second high tier world in another location.

Jason Hardman

The boss buffed itself with a cage of icicles?

Danzafan37

Any way a talent could beat this? 'You resonate with the realm' and therefore you could hide the ripples? Because I believe it's only on tier up, otherwise how could the emperor jump into the Republic unnoticed? Or is it simply sense they exist, not where they are?

Danzafan37

I agree with the squirrel. I think it was some Xianxia nonsense but that the sect overseeing the rift was short changing people from another sect and it's on like Donkey Kong for the war to save face or some BS 😅

Danzafan37

I strongly disagree with this edit 😅😅😅 the first way was correct IMO

Danzafan37

He has two kingdoms. He gets an extra vote or two for just being emperor.

Kelly Bryan

I dont believe that to be true. Two of the only 16 tier 48s in the realm and ones that are fanatically loyal to their leader decide to suddenly go rogue presumably ending in one of them ascending in the middle of the tier ten tournament that their daughter is involved in? Nah, that would be worth the 'nightmare' investment to Janet let alone Virgil. Further his realm shaking talent would be worth the attempt. And if the tier 50s can just point the way thats all they need to do, there are Talents that break the rules, just imagine the HA equivalent built to hunt down the person valuable enough to tear The Empire apart from the inside? If there was any chance she could be detected there is no chance shed be left alone.

Thomas Todd

Also it's probably not massively common to actually need it, most talents with innate skills usually have the subsequent talents empower the skill. Fusing a skill that's really different or that would take the original far enough away from the original might mean their other talents won't apply. As an example Allie's teleport, if she fused that with another skill the part of her talent that makes it free could stop working

Thomas Todd

If she went far enough away the t50s wouldn't have been able to catch up to them. Even for the t50s going out into chaotic space that isn't settled isn't easy, navigating it would be a nightmare since there isn't any of the tethering ect going on. Plus the t50s couldn't leave their empires for that long, and they always risk MLA just ascending anyway because they've taken so long and Matt can create the rifts they need

Alex

Ruins are a profoundly rare type of rift break where instead of just dumping a load of monsters, a rift inverts itself and takes over a portion of realspace. Technically speaking Matt could make a ruin any time he Tiers up a rift since every rift has a chance to form a ruin when it breaks. I think the exact mechanism that determines whether a rift breaks or inverts remains unknown - I'd be surprised if Titan's Torch didn't try to research that problem at some point.

Kelly Bryan

So Mara could not have hid somewhere away from the tier 50s with her kids until they ascended?

Flopmind

I'm aware, but it was presented in such a way that it made merging with innate skills impossible, talent or otherwise. Hence my pointing out Julian's example.

Natox Biohazard

Was just re-reading bk 2 is it possible for Matt to cause a ruin?? The thing where instead of a rift break the entire rift is expelled into the real world

Trevor Mergen

Thanks!

Sean C Jackson

Mat didn't have an innate skill slot before going to Minkalla; the only way to get one naturally is from a talent.

Sean C Jackson

That's because with the exception of Minkalla the only way to even have an innate skill slot is from a Talent, that's why getting one from Minkalla is so valuable.

Colin Groh

After they enter the rift, the Angel is described as throwing out a [Light Beam] that Matt meets with a [Mana Beam] but in the next paragraph when they evaluate the strength of the angel's attack they call it a 5Million MPS [Mana Beam]

Xarow

If this rift is not fully charged then those wings may not be a reward. Like it needs to be for 777 feathers to drop at all. The guild would argue ‘you didn’t look well enough’. The teams are probably paying a mighty sum for the chance to delve this rift for the chance to get them. The guild can then also maybe keep the wings value artificially inflated through this.

James Townsend

Hold up. WARZONE?

Nathan

I think you have to send mantis some foxes… but I’m not sure

Jacob

How do we get on the Beta readers list. I would love that!

Jacob

I was going off of the number of Votes he has but I remember it as him having 1 vote for each kingdom. Now I'll have to go back and look.

Alex

I’m pretty sure the Emperor only has 2 kingdoms. I think you’re misremembering based on the number of votes he has among the Royals: he gets three votes — one for each of his two kingdoms, and one for being Emperor.

Jacob

So are you saying that the Emperor rules over 4 high tier worlds....1 Empire capital (47) and 3 kingdom capitals (40+)

C_Mantis

Two things of correction. You can continue to domesticate monsters normally so long as the rift isnt destroyed. Its just that no new rifts will spawn with that monster type. Second variants can be tiny. Wyrms vs dragons are a large example but you can also have Cats with six toes vs cats with 5 toes outside the rifts. Or a heart on the other side. The difference can be very minor.

C_Mantis

The sense is defined as "The realm" is anything inside the realm of this story. Leaving the realm is only possible via ascension.

C_Mantis

His kingdoms have capitals but there is only one Capital.

Jacob

Does the Emperor have 3 capital worlds or just 1? He technically rules over 3 kingdoms.

Flopmind

Cool. Thank you, Mantis. Just wanted to make sure it was kosher because innate and all.

C_Mantis

fixed ty

C_Mantis

Wow ty. Quite a few wrong words making it through the spell checks and beta readers (and myself). Thank you guys.

C_Mantis

Thats a good catch but AI and [AI] operate on slightly different rules as the fake skill is meant to be compatible with the real thing. Its a core functionality build into the skill which is why he can pull it off where Aster needs extra steps for her [Ice Manip].

C_Mantis

Good catch ty. Stupid spell checking doesnt catching real words used wrong and I dont spell good.

Kelly Bryan

Maybe Sien convinced her sect to take control of it because of the slight to foreign masters?

Kelly Bryan

I hear what you're saying Flop, but what Thomas said goes a bit further, the pseudoskill is made to be merged with it. Its the only skill weve been introduced to that does that. A point in your favor would be that Matt's slot is flexible and Julian's would not be. A quick mention of it in their conversation with Sien wouldnt go amiss... Or maybe when Aster asks Luna about the whole thing she just berates them for not knowing based off the whole AI thing.

JoshCalmick

I adore the fact that Allie and Matt are so supersticious about rift drops

Kelly Bryan

They can detect them in the realm, which could be defined as all the universes tied to the great powers. Leon mentions that if any of the GPs wanted to bother any of their kids (in laws included) that he would hold off everyone so Mara could take them through chaotic space to safety, implying she, a tier 48, could hide from the tier 50s somewhere far enough away in chaotic space.

Flopmind

Thomas Todd, that's fair. I agree that it's probably a much smaller problem, but I'm largely advocating that it's addressed. I'm willing to buy a number of explanations, but the fact is that we don't currently have any; we only have a lot of good speculation.

SqrlyGrly

I think it might be because Matt pointed out they weren't actually full and people got upset.

Shmigit

Um, excuse you. The correct way to increase your catch rate is to hit Up+B on the first shake, Down+B on the second shake, and A on the final shake. Please don't go spreading misinformation like that on the internet. Thank you. /s

Thomas Todd

My theory is that it's a fight between the sect that controls y now and the previous sect that controlled it. They probably publicly called them out or it got back to them that they blamed the rift not being 100% full on them and so it's an honour fight with the possible control of the rift on the line

Thomas Todd

It's Liz's retirement plan, she's dipping into her pension for her blood tattoos that she was saving for when she retired

Thomas Todd

The t50s can sense anyone at t46 or t47 I can't remember what the threshold is so they know that there aren't any civilisations with people at or above those ranks

Flopmind

Sure but it's close enough and the previous chapter uses talent-granted skill and innate skill interchangeably in the conversation with Sien.

Thomas Todd

He's planning on merging it later but I think that's a bit different to merging two completely different skills. Matt also had his AI in his innate slot when he merged his pseudo AI. But I think because they are the same skill it works a bit differently.

Alex

What the Empire doesn't know and the Sects do is that you can merge skills with Talent-given Innate Skills, which is an entirely different thing than merging skills using a Minkalla-granted innate skill slot; all the Great Powers know you can do that.

lamp

Thanks for the chapter! I think "statute" should be "statue" unless I misread something

Flopmind

Mantis, with the innate skill merging mentioned last chapter, a small consistency error has cropped up. Because, to my knowledge, it being established as impossible hasn't happened before. That alone isn't a big deal. The problem is that, in book 7, Julian, the Corporations business man in Minkalla, gets an innate AI for his exit reward with the plan to merge it with the full skill later. This is technically not an error because the corporations could just have this knowledge too or Julian could be ignorant about the topic, but it does feel off. This could be fixed a couple ways. You could retcon the Julian bits. However, I think the easiest and best way is just to declare AI merging as a known exception because of Minkalla and mention that in chapter 361. Thanks for the chapter!

Ray S.

I think the cause of the war zone is far simpler. There was an unmentioned noodle shop nearby.

Kelly Bryan

Just good friends? I would say Besties.

Jason Scott

Rule 32. Humans are weird. That's all the explaining you need. Lol

Violet

"They also had arches" -> "They also had archers" While I'm sure the city had arches, I think the archers are probably more relevant here. :P

Kelly Bryan

Yeah, Sien is probably upset, especially with Matt offering to pay as his way of bringing it up. How much of an insult to her strength is it that he didnt even jokingly suggest she pay for the bump? She doesnt know mana stones are nothing to him and tier 28 stones would be nothing to her.

Kelly Bryan

I read this in Light's voice and it was hilarious.

Jason Hardman

TYFTC! Think the following line would benefit from a few commas being added for clarity: Aster countered a rage filled roar that tried to buff the mini-boss with a cage of icicles. -> Aster countered a rage filled roar, that tried to buff the mini-boss, with a cage of icicles.

Kelly Bryan

Fair. Just another local dustup unlucky enough to have interrupted the team's day.

Kelly Bryan

Chekov's lost civilization? I would enjoy that. Tier 47 or so? No tier 50s but high enough that they could be problematic, and when the heroes are at a comparable tier, maybe they have a realm worthy treasure like Minkalla that Matt can exploit for the good of the realm?

Jason Hardman

My guess is that it's Sien, or possibly the other delvers, punishing the Sect that was skimming mana stones by not keeping the instances fully charged. I can imagine Sien seeing it being noticed by honoured guests as a major loss of face, and the other delvers would be pissed at being shortchanged.

Cindri

People still think if u tap a at the right time or spam a you increase ur chance to catch a pokemon. Its superstitions 101

Kain

My guess for the war zone is standard Xanxia nonsense. Old sect has precious item -> the rift, other sect, possibly coalition of other sects want precious item and so a war happened. Maybe the sect that currently has it lost some key figures in the war or a rival sect has a key figure rank up or some other triggering incident occurred. It’s the sects literally anything could trigger a localized war.

Alex

Sapient species cannot* appear as rift monsters, and rift monsters cannot be domesticated if there is an existing population of that species that is sapient. Matt is saying that since there are no new rifts with angels in them, and because nobody can domesticate the angels from this rift, that means there must be an unknown and uncontacted population of sapient angels somewhere in the Realm that's causing the Realm to say "you cannot make a new rift with angels in it or domesticate angels anymore." *A species that has a sapient population can appear as rift monsters if the rift they appear in predates the existence of the sapient population. **The story may include a contradiction to the idea that you cannot have a monster equivalent of a sapient species. Morgan/Bolt had a feathered serpent bloodline according to the Team Zero google doc, which means that there are sapient feathered serpents in the Realm. But, MAL fought a feathered serpent rift monster in the temple rift back on the training planet - either this was some variant of a feathered serpent that has no sapient equivalent, the temple rift predated the existence of the sapient feathered serpent population, or it's a plot hole.

Grond (James)

Thank you, that's exactly what I needed

Ed S.

This chapter makes me think we’re gonna meet a universe that was cast off during the Shattering and finally made its way back. Probably high tier enough to cause shenanigans.

C_Mantis

Just good friends who are both jokesters.

C_Mantis

Correct. Thats the prevailing theory at least.

Zack

Who would do such a thing?? Pre-pasta-rous!

Alex

Probably his Truth: "The Truth was a profound plea to the metaphysics of the Realm, connecting one’s actions to the underpinnings of reality in the same way that an Anchor connected the Domain to physical reality. It became a fixed point in the tapestry of defining Who You Were, the lens through which you would judge the Realm, and the Realm would judge you." - Chapter 329 I think he's resonating with an idea along the lines of "so long as I'm alive I can make anything possible".

Zack

If I recall correctly, once a rift species becomes 'domesticated' and can breed without the rift madness, they stop appearing as a species in new rifts. I think the topic came up when Matt was doing his early rift experiments and met the wolf guy who can influence rift creation.

Grond (James)

I don't get what they were saying about the Angels being out there somewhere. How does a rift not creating any more angels mean there's a random population somewhere?

James Faulkner

We can only hope!

Kelly Bryan

Could this be the first incident that Manny has to 'clean up' for them?

Kelly Bryan

I feel like the rift reward thing is mostly just the characters being themselves. Allie is totally the type to insist on doing something like this and Matt says there is no evidence either way, so with him being friends with her would agree to it for shits and giggles. I mean look at sports teams for some very serious people who do much weirder things to attempt to sway fate. I find the behavior humanizing.

Black Rose

Are aster and Allie together or just friends I am somewhat confused

Havokk

okay is that the start of Matts Aspect we see there ???? and just loving the aperologist in him doing a bit of a flex with the "it's not completely full"

Jacob

I love the foreshadowing in this chapter.

Kelly Bryan

This is the best guess at what set them off so far. I imagine the delvers fighting the sect in control of the rift for not giving them what they paid for, probably instigated by Sien whispering in a few ears. The timing would be complicated though, maybe an hour or so with people fighting outside the rift and rift runs taking days at that rank, planning them coming out in the middle of a warzone would be... difficult. I guess Im just impressed at their luck and presumably Sien's skill at manipulation.

C_Mantis

fixed ty

John

Thanks!

James Faulkner

Oh boy, a war zone?? Maybe we’ll have some fun after all :D

Clint

They will come.

C_Mantis

ty lol

C_Mantis

Fixed ty

Uuds

I thought Liz and Matt. Which was how the previous paragraph started.

Tommy

If he builds it

Tommy

“Himself” should be “he”

Owen Kaz

It is useless thought. It's just an item that hits the randomizer again. If you don't know what's already there, then that item is useless. You're trading random for random. The item doesn't let you choose a specific reward from a rift if I recall correctly

Uuds

Typo? This line feels weird: Together, Liz and himself threw themselves at the mini boss.

Alex

I find the superstition about rift rewards to be really bizarre. During the tournament arc, there was the auction event where each of the Royals submitted an item for the competitors to bid on. Frederic's item (which was an orb if I'm recalling correctly) had the ability to change what dropped from a reward distortion, provided that it was used before the distortion was dispelled. Matt says at the time that he thought the item was worthless for anyone who didn't have a Talent that would let them see what a reward distortion was going to drop. Keeping that in mind, there must have been somebody in the history of the Realm (probably at that very auction) who had the ability to see through rift distortions and answer the question "are rift rewards predetermined". It's simply impossible that this is still an open question that people don't know the answer to.

Matt

Great chapter. I love the last line. Someone was not supposed to be skimming mana off the top...

Isiah Debarros

Well that was fun and it looks like we have things to look forward to

MikeL

Edit: did you mean statue, not statute.

Tom

"but with Liz’s pension for blood tattoos" Guessing that was meant to be penchant?

Tommy

“Together, Liz and himself threw themselves at the mini boss.” -> Liz and he TFTC

Alex

"Their bickering lasted until they exited the rift, where they entered a war zone." I'm guessing someone built a noodle shop around the rift entrance while they were delving.

Owen Kaz

No, no, no, you should only enter after performing an interpretive dance and threatening the rift with castration.

Bob Bryan

All matt needs is a baseball field and the angles will show up.

Asattor

Thanks for the chapter! :D

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! Angel rift is fun. Fun to speculate. Ah yes, people always want to bang the attractive looking things. Is that PoA's version of furries? -Do people with a beast bloodline find similar species attractive? Particularly beast at lower tiers? I am not sure I like this train of thought and so am stopping. Possibly a different humanoid bloodline?! I am quite pleased with this possibility. -aww man. Still a maybe. We can see weirder stuff further in chaotic space?!! Cthulu here we come! I am curious if the GPs are truly in the center of the whirlpool or if they are similar to people on Earth thinking that Earth is the center of the Solar system or universe. Is there proof the GPs are the center or is it ego? -Huh, so the T50s may be the cause of being the center of the whirlpool? A sort of spiritual weight, similar to how a blackhole drags mass and space towards itself. Making a single T50 rift is likely less noticeable than a T50 planet. A lot quicker to boot. I do wonder how difficult it is to delve up tiers to a T50 rift, another milestone level. I wonder what will happen as they all tier up. Specifically if we will even experience a full delve with them at later tiers. Leon called the one book Matt found about a high tier delver a fantasy as it was so short. Mantis would seemingly need to write a whole book about the delve if nothing was skipped or summarized. I admit that all of them getting a pair of angel wings that match their elements sounds cool. Sure Matt misses out a bit by not having a focus mana type, or able to change it on the go like Zack, but it would still be cool! Just a fun image. Ah yes, a war zone. The question is who caused it... Sien is a reasonable guess, maybe some sects trying to get at the Ascenders, maybe Siena again but just messing with people mentally, or maybe it is completely unrelated to them like some group that wants to get rid of the angels. Anyways, a fun chapter. :)


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