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Chapter 408

🕑 Added 2025-03-21 18:59:00 +0000 UTC

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Con

Death Feeds Life Feeds Death Feeds Life she’s going infinite on it

KnightRider007

Yeah, this sprang out to me too. I think “advances” is clearly the correct word here.

Julie Smith

Matt is helping Melinda with rifts! A great topic. Cameron's POV provides great background on Matt's guild over the years. Rah has a path forward, but it's a lot of work. Nothing new there. No great progress finding new leads to the Senses cabal. I think they'll lie low for while and then attack from a new direction.

Jonathan Coffman

I'm just happy to read well ahead of audible

Sean Shivers

unwanted advancements... i think is supposed to be unwanted advances. A research guild wouldnt mind advancements... but advances like in a romantic sense would be problematic.

Adam

Matt is laundering his mana to the Emperor and back to the guild to hide his Talent. I think there would be less worry if Matt was officially fully funding the guild rather than Manny. Even having his in-laws fund it might be better. While we know the funding won’t dry up since we know the intricacies of their relationships, others can only make judgments on public information.

Adam

I don’t think inspirations directly tier up the nearby rifts. They increase the essence in the area, which may lead to the celestial body and uncontrolled rifts tiering up, but the crafted rifts already have formations that control the essence intake to prevent unwanted tier ups.

C_Mantis

That was an outpost, the moon is the main site.

Alex

Melinda’s Overhealth Talent grows with time and experience — as well as Tier — so it’s detrimental to her growth to Tier up quickly.

Rodney

So when Melinda gets her intent are we going to get the gang back together and go through a delving tier up the friends cycle ?????

E H B

Oh yea lots of fun with it a little sad I'm all caught up I want to see more of Matt's guild is rift making shenanigans

C_Mantis

I hope you enjoyed the binge.

E H B

All caught up been read for last month or so

JM O'Hare

But isn't the main site of Titans Torch on Lilly? Where Matt created the island area

SqrlyGrly

That works up until they hit that time limit without any big discoveries. Research often does that. Spurts of growth followed by nothing. Hitting walls. The guild would view it as a countdown timer.

SqrlyGrly

They might teir up the moon a few times if they are high enough level.

Xarow

Thank you for the chapter. Enjoyed the insights into the issues the guild has with retention. It felt well considered.

Moaz Khan

I think a nice direction for Matt would to be focusing on his sword and swordmanship, and I would be remiss the obvious when discuss a space swordsman, as this video made me think of Matt: https://youtube.com/shorts/DF94657BgKk?si=Azv9Kk0GmX_aV363

Immutably Empty

The funding concern seems like it could be addressed easily enough. Just have Manny publicly commit to "providing" funding for X time for discoveries already made as thanks/incentive and then he can add more time based on new discoveries.

JM O'Hare

Wait a minute, does Titans Torch have a "No inspirations on site" policy? Otherwise someone would have an inspiration and tier up all their test rifts 🤣

BluePegasus

Thank you for the chapter! It's fun to see the impacts of the tier 0 skills in the other great powers. The return to aperology for Melindas's intent is even better! I'm excited to see what comes out of the unique rifts.

Tristan R Mitchell

The casualties come from the rifts. Even with a t0 skill, a certain fraction of people die from the rifts. The restriction on the path went through because the republic pushed raw numbers of deaths instead of deaths per attempts or deaths per pather. Those latter two are higher than private delvers, yes, because pathers HAVE to delve up-tier in order to make it, but not so high as to provoke restrictions on the path.

Bob Bryan

I wouldn't say irreconcilable, unlike monster collective and federation due to how the latter acts. Don't forget the empire and the ascendency of the sun, i think it's what it's called, were conolete allies before they killed a champion from the federation, I think from there, in cold blood when he ascended and they turned on them. It all depends on what happens between now and then how when the federation loses its mind and declares war on everyone. Plus don't forget it's not like the sects, republic and federation actually liked each other. Maybe the republic changes. Never say never. Minus the federation due to crazy Mcgee polluting it.

Alex

For your first point; yeah, people are always going to find new and creative ways to be assholes to one another, so saying that Matt's mana would make war redundant was aspirational on my part - but the current paradigm in the Realm is that the Great Powers go to war with each other to cull their immortal populations, and seize resources and territory from each other. Matt's mana would make those two motivations non-factors: you don't need to cull your immortals when you have the resources to support them, and you don't need to throw lives away to seize resources and territory from your enemies when you have an abundance of those things. War would be fundamentally different with Matt's mana, and probably more infrequent. To your second point, the Empire and the Sects truly and properly hate each other: "Like the Empire and the Sects, relations between the Federation and Monster Collective were irreconcilable, and they would sooner fight each other to the death before they fought next to each other." - Book 6, chapter 26. The fact that the enmity between the Sects and the Empire is even compared to the grudge between the Federation and Monster Collective shows just how deep the hatred goes. Thirdly, Hornet thinks Manny's a coward because Manny actively avoids wars, and his dislike is at least partially motivated by Manny's Talents: "The new Emperor was a coward, like his father before him. A new Tier 50 had to make their mark and show their power. the normal way to do that was to duel the other Tier 50s and start a war, or at least fabricate a border skirmish [...] Emmanuel and only wanted to duel them, which was an outcome that no one would allow. The thief's Talents were well-documented, and no one was willing to allow him a chance at their Tier 50 Talent." Book 4, chapter 1. You need to keep in mind the viewpoint of the average citizen of the Sects and the Empire, because that's the perspective which will decide whether the two powers work together; the average Empire citizen would rather see the entirety of the Sects burned to ashes, because they've spent their entire lives being told that Secties are monsters who brutalize mortals and cause atrocities like the Ventyliria attack. Sect citizens fanatically believe that their Great Power is the best, and they would rather die than see a power like the Empire rise above them. Those viewpoints are irreconcilable.

Blake N.

I feel like the federation and the republic are just opposite sides of the propaganda coin at work

Blake N.

That’s a fun idea

Etoyrt

Well, part of the reason they are concerned is that Matt ithand/or the Emperor may decide to reassign resources to other areas besides the guild. Even with the source that is a legitimate concern. It is far less of a concern given how much Matt has available to him, but how can the average employee know just how dedicated to the guild idea Matt is. Clearly he cares a lot, but does he care enough that new circumstances wouldn't lead Matt to stop investing? I think not, but that is with the benefit of not just knowing his Talent but also having his POV.

Desidia

With advanced trainers that can prevent spiritual damage, Pathers can form tier 0 skills in 2 years. But they have to delve and train at the same time. Some people have to take longer to learn skills. I'm wondering how Pathers in PlayPen are reacting with their new time constraints. Are we going to get a lot people who flunk and age out of the Path? The PlayPen is also for the children of the rich who pay their way in. I remember that a lot of them die when they delve. What about now?

Bob Bryan

A couple of things. 1 if you think an abundance of resources would be enough to stop wars from happening in the future, you just don't understand humanity. Wars will happen later. so no, it would not stop war. Second, it's less that the empire and sects hate each other and more that the empire likes fighting and does not like surrendering. They can be crazy but they do not hate the empire. That more had to do with the Sect being 1 in power rankings and empire being 2 if I remember correctly. There isn't really any more hate than that around anymore. Monster Collective and Federation are different, and honestly, I feel like everyone is going to jump on the Federation either during/before or after that war due to everything going on there. Third, I think he thinks Manny is a coward because he does not understand that Manny wasn't building up for the previous war; everything was for the war after it. At that point, he will realize he wasn't a coward but a predator in waiting, something he would respect. So yeah, there is a chance the sects and empire could join up. Is it likely, no idea but it's not the federation who has gone so far off the rails their train is now a submarine on venus. But we shall see. Also, what I said was mostly a joke.

Alex

I don't understand why people think that the Empire and the Sects could ever be on the same side in the True War. Firstly, the Empire and the Sects absolutely despise each other. This goes all the way back to Agatha's day; shortly after Agatha took over the throne, a rogue noble in the Empire tried to cut a deal with the Sect's then-Grand Elder - the Grand Elder would kill Agatha and make him the new Emperor for some unknown compensation. When the Grand Elder tried to kill Agatha, Agatha cut him in half - he ran away then Ascended like a little bitch, and his successor started a blood feud with the Empire that resulted in no less than 9 wars between the Empire and the Sects during Agatha's 30,000 year reign. That enmity carries on to this day; when Matt had to divide Winter's forces in Minkalla, he had to account for inter-power tensions, and he SPECIFICALLY says that the Empire and the Sects can't be grouped together because the only two powers that hate each other MORE than the Empire and the Sects are the Monster Collective and the Federation. Winter Hornet respects strength to a fault; he treated Matt well during their meeting because Matt's proven himself to be one of the strongest people in the Realm at his Tier, but that in NO WAY means that Winter Hornet would EVER align his Great Power with the Empire. Winter Hornet hates the Empire, and he PARTICULARLY can't stand Emmanuel - he calls Emmanuel a coward in the chapter where he meets with Janet, and based on what we know about Winter Hornet, 'coward' is probably the most insulting label he would ever apply to a person. Finally, Emmanuel's plan is to use Matt's mana to alleviate scarcity in the Realm; if Emmanuel's vision comes to fruition there would be such an abundance of resources and opportunities that war would be outright REDUNDANT, because there'd be no reason for anyone to fight over anything when they already had everything they wanted. That idea alone would probably send Winter Hornet into a violent rage because he LOVES war. He was DISAPPOINTED when nobody wanted to declare war on the Sects immediately after the last war wrapped up, and that was the most brutal war the Realm has seen since the War of the Monsters. There is NO WAY that the Sects will fight with the Empire in the True War. That just ISN'T going to happen.

Throngler In Chief

If ascender be friend shaped why no do friend thing?

Throngler In Chief

"Ok, so, we're going to need you to ascend as slowly as possible while we create these rifts. And you, over there, we're going to have you ascend while these rifts are tiering up. Make sure you match the timing! As for you, you get the fun job. You're going to ascend while inside this low tier rift, breaking it, while we make a handful of exact copies next to it. Remember, timing is ESSENTIAL, you don't get any do-overs!" "...Why are we listening to this tier 15 again?"

Arlano

That's basically chapter 404 isn't it?

Preston

Cameron: Some members are concerned the guild may run out of money. Matt: We'll look back and chuckle about this someday.

Andre

Yeah when it rains it pours ! https://news.usni.org/2025/03/21/secdef-hegseth-extends-uss-harry-s-truman-deployment-in-middle-east-carl-vinson-heading-to-centcom

Etoyrt

One thing to remember is that tiering up does improve an anchor as it improves one's whole domain, but not in the sense of making it as if it were the sort of object it is but of the user's tier. A rift as an anchor probably would not improve in the same way that a normal rift would with tier ups. Perhaps a rift anchor could be delved if that is the sort of direction someone takes their intent when creating it or practicing it though. Also, a claimed anchor is that object, but claimed and made of willpower from what I can tell. If the rift was of a certain type and had particular tendencies as to the monsters and drops those would probably stay the same unless the person did something as they were resonating with the rift to claim it that linked it more with something else or adjusted its properties.

Disclancer

I mean she's always been a bit of a see you next tuesday, my dislike of her hasn't much dimmed with time it seems, such a well written character:))

Desidia

Oh yeah! With tier 0 skills and cheap Aura potions, there should be a lot less casualties. I wonder if the Empire met the Republic's demands for less deaths for children.

Desidia

Are we going to see Daftar again? I want to see cute scenes, where he's showing off to Aster with his steam skills. I guess at tier 5 for a dragon, this would be many years later. Maybe decades. Aster probably has her ice skills by then.

Isaac Boyles

Honestly I could probably read thirty more chapters just on the results of aperology experiments and be happy. I realize that isn't practical for the author or the readership, but I have yet to get tired of those parts ever

Desidia

Thanks for clarifying. So if Matt had the chance to make his own skill, there's no real benefit in delaying entering the PlayPen.

Tom C

If that happens I can see them staking a space out when next someone ascends to higher realm. And building rifts there to see what happens 👍😂

Corac

I think as long as your still tier 0 i don't see why not since you haven't started your journey yet

Stephen Phillips

Lots of nice catching up this chapter. It’s nice to see Melinda again. I wonder how the rest of Team Bucket/Unbroken are doing

C_Mantis

its off your true age so yes it would could against you.

Desidia

Is it possible to wait to enter a PlayPen, until you create your tier 0 skill? Would the 2 to 4 years building the skill count in your path of ascension time?

JM O'Hare

Calling it now: Melinda will form her intent right there in the Rift testing area and it will have an effect on a Rift someone is creating / tiering up nearby. Thereby sending Matt's guild into an even COSTLIER avenue of having people form and use their Concepts/Intents around a rift while it forms.

MikeL

Yes, but Allie not complaining and just following orders just doesn’t happen. So it’s funny.

Kasamuri

Thanks for the chapter

Alex

Hmmm, upon further reflection I think I was wrong to say that a cultivator has to create a created anchor. I think a cultivator could turn a real object into a created anchor by imbuing something real with properties that make it unreal; say, if Allie turned an entirely mundane dagger into her Intent's anchor, and in doing so she gave the dagger the property that it could space, that anchor would be created because it has properties that make it partially unreal.

yannick schwende

Thanks for the chapter. I really feel with Matt, getting the work out of the way let's me enjoy other things far more since I don't feel like I should be using my time better or at least wiser. That said all work and no play makes me feel sick and tired so some play time is definitely useful. It just so happens that my definition of a good time equals a good story like this one ;-)

SunderGoldmane

“Reports were now hinting at the Federation looking to entirely rework their mortal populations. Those same reports spoke of six connected planets deep in Federation space destroying massive amounts of Tier 4 rifts and seeding them with aura rifts, as well as purging any information about natural Concepts. Those same planets had also rolled out modified skill creation methods en masse before severing all but one tether to the rest of the Federation leaving them an isolated cluster.” This has me intrigued.

Desidia

I'm curious how these tier 0 skills affect Playpen Pathers in the Empire. I wouldn't mind the POV of a PlayPen instructor or student.

Aiden Bishop

Thanks for the chapter!

SunStar

Healers are gods and goddesses of their domain and woe to all who forget it. Also best to assume there is no limit to their domain. Also Melinda has been bossing Matt around since he was a teenager.

C_Mantis

I will say you are coming close to some of the deeper workings ive tried to lay out so well done. Not everything was 100% correct but you are on the right track for a lot of it.

David Bean

I’m worried Matt forgot to have her check his head. Hopefully Allie will remind them.

Alex

The distinction between claimed and created anchors has been bothering me. According to Luna: "Much as Concepts have internal and external variants, Intents are what we refer to as either claimed or created. Claimed intents utilize an anchor that was once a fully real, fully physical object. Created intents, meanwhile, are the result of taking a portion of the domain and permanently manifesting it as a part of reality." This description emphasizes the origin of the anchor as the thing that determines whether an anchor is claimed, or created. If a cultivator takes something that exists and makes it their anchor then that anchor is claimed, if they form part of their Domain into their anchor then that makes the anchor created. The thought that I keep coming back to is, what if someone created an anchor that they could have claimed? Take Aiden for example; his Intent's anchor is an ocean, and we know that his anchor is claimed because he talks about "taking [an ocean] as his Anchor all those years ago" (Chapter 332). But what would have been the difference if he had of created an ocean instead of claiming one - oceans being a real thing that you can claim doesn't mean you couldn't create one, after all. Would there be a meaningful distinction between having a claimed, or created anchor if they're both identical? In my mind, the thing that makes created anchors special is that they couldn't exist without the Domain. Take Susanne's anchor of her Concept manifestation - her manifestation only exists because of her will, and its properties aren't a result of natural laws, they're a result of her understanding of the world. In my headcanon this is the true distinction between claimed and created anchors: A claimed anchor has properties that are entirely consistent with natural laws, which allows the anchor to exist independently of any Domain. A created anchor has properties that are the result of a cultivator's understanding of the world, which prohibits the anchor from existing without the Domain it's a part of. A cultivator MUST create a created anchor because created anchors cannot exist without the Domain, but I don't think it's actually necessary to claim a claimed anchor. I believe it's possible for a cultivator to create a claimed anchor provided the anchor has properties that are entirely consistent with natural laws - if they manage this feat then the anchor could exist independently from the Domain. I think a better naming convention than created/claimed is physical and metaphysical. A physical anchor has properties that are entirely real, whereas a metaphysical anchor has properties that are at least partially unreal. If this is true then it has significant implications; namely if a cultivator wants to give themselves a claimed anchor that they can't get their hands on - like, if Matt wanted to claim a white hole as an anchor. White holes are real, but the only existing white hole in the Realm is at the heart of Minkalla, which is beyond his reach. I think it should be possible for Matt to create a claimed White Hole anchor provided he creates it with properties that would allow it to exist independently of his Domain.

Tom

I think it's less that they don't dare complain, and more that she saved their lives/their friends' lives/them from healing cool downs hundreds if not thousands of times during the war. They're grateful and want to help her get better for when they need more healing

A Flashy BR

Tyftc!!

MikeL

I love that Melinda can just order around all the Ascenders. “Make me rifts”, “take me to plants stores” and even Allie doesn’t dare complain.

Bob Bryan

Honestly the sects could possibly join the empire in the war when Matt's concept is released. All matt would have to do is hold a decadely, once every decade, open fight tournament and they would probably be happy.

Rodney

Nice let's go Melinda

Maple

THANKS!

Burgismik

Yay, power progress (addiction fed) until next time!

C_Mantis

Truly bad timing.

James Faulkner

Tftc!

Justus Saucedo

I'm here early! thanks for the chapter!

Andre

No birthday present chapter on the 4 -11 for me:(

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! I am glad Matt's first reaction to learning they couldn't fix Matt is Max had done something to him was to laugh instead of worry. He is growing to trust others. A unique area simply forming. Cameron update! It's nice that Matt is sorta trying to stay grounded. People using an Ascender's guild as a catapult makes sense, I am surprised people are being poached even with Matt's terms. I hope they get good poaching terms. I am curious if other realms have skills that are slightly different than the skills in this realm. Partially as if they are different enough [Solar Flare] and [Hand Shield] may be different enough to spawn there. Fire weapon for crafting is intriguing. Using it on a smithing hammer is cool. But using it on the hunk of metal you're hammering, to remove the need for a furnace, may be better. Though not mana efficient it is a starting point. Or may work for smaller items or in rift repairs. I am curious about interlocking skills. I'd been curious how cohesive an army truly is in this universe. How closely they work together as they have more individual styles of combat. Purging information about natural concepts... is Virgil going about creating people from scratch? Removing the individuality of Concepts? Having the government chose their Aura Concept based on their Talent? Is this an idea for widespread usage or a pet project to make it easier for Virgil to make rune troops? A more matching template. What tier is Melinda going to be forming her Intent?!! Ooh, culmination Domains. Parts directly tied and reliant on the former part. Maybe a rift as an anchor... that seems cool!!! Even if I'm wrong I'll be thinking up how to do that. The implications of a rift tiering up with a person. Can they delve it? Does it have rift breaks when tiering up? Can the control, or influence, the direction it changes to? Will their Domain or Talent influence the contents? Might it drop only healing skills and such? Environmental cycle rifts also sound cool. Rifts that change as time goes on. Do seasons happen in higher tier rifts? Would the monsters change as a planet in a T40 rift goes from winter to summer? Though I feel this is more for a whole rift changing seasons, you can beat a rift in it's summer phase or winter phase, for possibly different drops. The drop rate changing would be cool, fireball in the summer phase and ice bolt in the winter. Or maybe it doesn't even follow the theme but simply changes. A monster as an anchor? I had thought of people as anchors but somehow a monster didn't cross my mind. That seems cool. -imagining Helen's anchor as the friendliest golden retriever. Melinda getting an Ascender and high tiers to help with her Anchor. Just funny. Pause is out there being prissy about the unfairness of it all.

John Sanders

thanks mantis and paper


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