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Chapter 434

🕑 Added 2025-06-27 18:59:01 +0000 UTC

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Chimera80

Honestly, can’t disagree - that was a LOT, and I did end up just scrolling through a big chunk of it. I know Mantis needs to get the explanation across, but that was simply indigestible

Jesse

Damn that was a lot of exposition to skip through. Felt like it wouldn't end. Tftc

Julie Smith

Great chapter with an interesting inciting event--a random Tier 46 planet coming out of chaotic space. I love to see the banter as well as the tensions in the Ascender group. Lila rules the roost as the strongest of the bunch, Aiden notwithstanding. I love Aster negotiating for a Tier 2 chaotic spacecraft from Lila. As a fellow beast, she has that going for her. Lila just had to make the deal sweet enough for her.

Mitchell Meyers

Finally yes

Alex

Sounds like some T50 (or all?) ran off secretly to the fourth layer during this tide for something special happening there? My best guess anyway

Chase Hileman

I’m a little lost on what information Sien was betting on? Can someone fill me in?

leon keraunos

BOMBOCLAAAAT

Rodney

I was wondering myself if part of chaotic space is where the different adjacent realms The other tier 50 realms meet and if that was like a invasion point if you would or a breach to move along the different tier 50 realms. And maybe the wave and stuff coming from the fourth layer this time is because like you said maybe there are no tier 50s or anything in an adjacent realm it's ready to collapse or come apart it might take 100,000 years or something but you know that would be interesting.

PartyPlatapus

World hopping piracy mania!!

Rodney

Also this has to be where Manny was all that time his future site and Ally's talent makes him the perfect chaotic space explorer

Ian

Yessss, goodbye interesting but ultimately intermission chapters! Stoked for how this plays out, I hope in length it's comparable to Minkalla (or more??)!

Jason Hardman

Well I expect with Matt there they won't have any worries about having enough mana to power the ships shields.

Alex

Well Maya's using a [Clone] for this meeting, so Tier 35 for sure. Also, [Clone]s don't normally generate mana, which would render the skill completely useless in Matt's case because his whole build relies on his mana generation. It's possible the mana restrictions on the [Clone] ability will apply differently to Matt because his mana is all Talent based, but we'll have to wait until he actually gets the skill to see how it pans out.

Roro

Does anyone know at what tier the gang can start cloning themselves (so Matt can have a clone doing rift research full time, for example)?

Tom C

I’m just excited for Rah to get more screen time! His character is interesting as all hell. TFTC!

Chicken

That much strain from use of his authority has to be awful for how low a tier he is

Stephen Phillips

“but one of Aiden’s fiends had their own exploration ship capable of going into the second layer”. Does Aiden actually have underwater fiends of some kind or was that supposed to be friends? Also forgive my memory but why is Aiden damaged? I thought he just exerted himself during the war, I didn’t think he was damaged.

Chicken

Serious question. Can it be Monday already?

Kain

Possible, also could be some kind of ancient Tech sporadically but semi-consistently shooting out massive amounts of energy, solar flairs from an extremely high tier star, a wound in the realm left over from whatever destroyed the glorious kingdom, buncha shit really, but I doubt we will get answers on that any time soon something’s gotta be left for once the team is actually super high tier.

Alex

No. Being allowed into the Ascender groupchat is about having a mindset where you see something that's impossible/suicidally reckless and say "shit, that looks like a good time" Rah doesn't have that mentality. Yun Me doesn't either, which is why she isn't in the group chat despite having the same combat prowess as the Ascenders.

Esch

Is Rah in the Ascender's chat? I feel that if someone should be in that chat is our boy Rah. One could argue he is the only Ascender in the realm

Tsorov

To the shield: it could be a quality issue. The shield of the weaker ship may not be able to accept all the mana from Matt, even if he could theoretically boost it to the second level.

Alex

I don't think any of the Ascenders were presumed dead after being lost in chaotic space - Charl was presumed dead after Max killed him, but she brought his body back after their battle.

Maurice Williams

I wonder if the Rasdale Tidal Breach is an attempt by a remnant of the Glorious Everlasting Kingdom trying to reconnect to the core world's

Oblivion

Wait… one of the old ascenders is lost in chaotic space and presumed dead, right? What tier were they and what is the likelihood we find them here? It would be just the right amount of foreshadowing.

A Flashy BR

Oh this is going to be so fun!! Tyftc !!!

Alex

They're more likely to find a remnant civilization from the Glorious Everlasting Kingdom. Quick refresher: The Glorious Everlasting Kingdom of Prosperity preceded the current Great Powers, and it encompassed all of them (as in, each of the current Great Powers - except the Corporations and the Monster Collective, which came later - used to be part of the Glorious Everlasting Kingdom). The Glorious Everlasting Kingdom was HUGE, and its Tier 50 rulers were notoriously awful. As a result, various sub-factions of the Kingdom (that vaguely equate to the current Great Powers) simultaneously decided to launch coups to overthrow the ruling dynasty and seize control. This resulted in a war that would later be known as The Shattering. This wasn't a well-regulated war like we see in the current setting, this was a True War, where the only rule was that you needed to be the last one standing. Legions of Tier 40+ cultivators took to the battlefields, and the resulting conflict was so violent that it tore the Realm apart. Some worlds were totally annihilated by battles that shredded the membrane keeping out the corrosive energies of chaotic space. Other worlds had their tethers broken, which flung them into the depths of chaotic space, never to be seen again. Some civilizations will have survived being hurled into the depths of chaotic space by The Shattering; whether we'll see them in the upcoming arc is another question, but they're definitely out there.

winter north

After the mention of exploration groups getting lost in chaotic space forever, it would be interesting to run into a world where a group of explorers got lost, settled down, and started their own civilization, that could have expanded over a few hundred thousand years

Havokk

fantastic set up to the new arc. Poor Sien and Maya..... still not getting a look and the Aura

Alex

Yes. Weight, frequency, distance, and obstructions (like anti-[Teleport] formations) all increase the spiritual strain of her [Teleport] ability. She says that outright when she [Teleport]s Light back to fort Lightfoot after he got half his head blown off by Valentina.

Axim

Quick question on Allie’s talent. Is it distance or how often she teleports and teleporting others with her that causes strain/fading?

Mick Gormley

So when Manny went missing a while back, he was definitely doing something shady out in chaotic space

Alex

Theory Time!!!!!! It's been mentioned at various points that the Realm is sort of broken because there aren't any celestial bodies at the Tier cap. It was also mentioned at one point that the stability of the core layer of chaotic space was believed to be because the Tier 50s spend most of their time in that region - It's assumed that Tier 50s have a stabilizing effect on chaotic space. Question: what would happen if the Realm didn't have any Tier 50s for too long? Hypothesis: If the instability of chaotic space is because there are too few cultivators/celestial objects at-or-around the Realm's Tier cap, then it's reasonable to assume that a Realm would become increasingly unstable as time went on without anything at the Tier cap. Prediction: It may be possible for a Realm to become so unstable that it would begin to fall apart due to there being too few objects at its Tier cap. In the event that a Realm fell apart, adjacent Realms might absorb pieces of the shattered Realm into themselves. Potential Evidence: Minkalla. The origins of Minkalla have been a long-standing mystery: what if Minkalla came from a section of higher-Tier Realm that fell apart and got absorbed by MAL's Realm? That would explain why it exhibits properties beyond Tier 50.

C_Mantis

fixed ty

C_Mantis

She saying, Tier 50s know its a layer 4 breech and already left to investigate.

C_Mantis

I fixed it. Or I think I did. Let me know if I need further edits

Alex

Maaaybe. Remember that Allie has limits on her [Teleport] ability; when she overexerted herself on The Day of The Long Shadow she literally started fading from existence. She had to go on healing cooldown for over a decade after that stunt. Her recall ability is a great "oh shit, get me out of here" ability, but if she starts abusing it by repeatedly [Teleporting] over vast distances she'll put herself on healing cooldown real fast. It's definitely an advantage for Manny though - the whole thing about not being able to travel into chaotic space because it would leave the Empire undefended wouldn't apply to him.

Sean McClain

I am a little worried about Aiden, he is the strongest Ascender for his tier and that makes him a big threat strategically if he reaches tier 40. He will be injured and in a location where "accidents happen" and he is arrogant enough to enter traps for fun. Our crew will be able to stand up to anyone in their tier, they will have an overwhelming crew, and should be able to escape a punch down attempt making targeting them suicidal in more ways then one. But Duke Waters is a different story.

Ali Sha

Oooo, so excited for this. I loved the Minkalla ark and miss high stakes delving.

Matt H

That surprised me too and I started raking my memory trying to remember if something else had happened to him since then. Although if he's still so injured I'm not sure how Maya should be in any sort of shape to be fighting On The Last Line right now.

Axel

"but one of Aiden’s fRiends had their own" Missed an R there I think.

Nathaniel France

The idea of this turning into a Minkalla 2.0 is definitely interesting. My question is, if Allie is with them, doesn’t the Empire have an INSANE advantage? Like they can be back and fourth from chaotic space and the capitol for that matter without issue.

Cteatus

Oh very excited to get back to exploration! This arc has me very hype! Tiny editing note: > which wasn’t a given, but assumed so, if for no reason beyond there being no reason for the Realm following the laws of geometry that enabled spheres to exist This bit is extremely hard to parse.

C_Mantis

fixed ty

Rodney

I love where this is going The only thing I wish is they could get the entire gang back together their entire friend group to go explore I would love to see how Connor Emily and Annie are doing along with team bucket

Domy

I can see a scenario where the best thing that could happen to Matt and team is for them all to get stranded deep into the 3rd layer or deeper on a planet that does not get tied back to the central powers. Matt could potentially create a tier 50 world were he and a number of allies reach the tier 50 limit and come swanning back in to the shock and horror of everyone. It wouldn’t happen for a number of reasons, not least of which the Other tier 50s would sense them and try to drag them back, and that their guild, duchy and possibly national would be ruined. But it wouldn’t happen because it’s a bit boring and montagey.

Alex

Aiden's still recovering from the Battle of the Citadel?!? That was like 250 years ago!!!! It didn't take Luna that long to recover from delaying Matt's Inspiration!!!

Alex

I can't imagine Allie's Talent wouldn't work in the deeper layers of chaotic space. it's canon that she can punch her way into Tier 47 Rifts with her recall ability - which is a feat that even Royal Tier cultivators can't replicate if they don't have specialized Rift breaking abilities - so she should be capable of recalling from any layer of chaotic space. It's possible that her Talent would cause too much spiritual strain for her to actually use it in the truly DEEP layers of chaotic space, but that's not really a mark against her Talent per se, it's just that she's too weak to exploit it to its full potential.

Alex Ledger

Ominous after chapter note, looking forward to it! :D

Captain the Red Beard

Ohh, snap. Minkalla take 2: chaotic space boogaloo!

John Smith

So here’s to guessing this is where the emperor went with Allie’s talent. Didn’t see them address how Allie’s talent could/couldn’t work across the layers. Would be curious how that impacts the team exploring

Adam Andersson

I think you inverted you size comparison, Mantis. I have a hard time seeing the great powers outsizing the realm. Also think you inverted the thing about the shape. Assumed to be spherical bc there's no reason to think it follows the usual laws of geometry? Feel like some part of that should be the other way around.

Braincase

So does Sien's thing mean that on of the tier 50's failed in getting their 4th revelation and is going to ascend early? Or that they succeeded?

C_Mantis

Good catch. fixed

Alex

Hold on, I thought Tier 50s could only sense things that were Tier 46 or above, there was a line about it back when Matt was setting up his guild that Manny wouldn't be able to tell if a Tier 45 snuck into Imperial space to spy on him.

Kasamuri

Thanks for the chapter

nolan saylor

Wheee! Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! Joining the bet, because why not, I bet Sien wins. Sien feels like they could have their Authority. Gideon & Eclavorn seem to have an object or event which Ascenders find less exciting than combat stuff. -It is an event, I was right. I'd even thought a celestial event involving an interesting planet. I'd just thought too small, this is an event that can have multiple interesting planets. -dang, I was right that Sien was more interesting, but not for the right reasons. Her manner did giver her and edge so at least I was right. Glad that MAL won the wager. PoA is truly a tiny part of the realm. It's part of why I like the idea of lower tier realms. Just imagining other realms ascending into this one. Not high enough tier to be noticed by T50s. Entire civilizations out there. It also just is fun to imagine the Realm growing. Yes they assume it is a sphere, but that seems fairly fitting to modern irl geometry and astrophysics. When things can connect various universes with spacing being altered it seems reasonable that a sphere isn't the only choice. With mass affecting things it could be a disc as well, and different levels of gravity and the magical equivalent there could be bulges or waves caused by large objects. Irregular inner mass means easily possible irregular outer shape, like a person making the bottom of a trampoline bulge. A mere "few hundred miles" I wonder about how common it is for an Ascender to die outside of a war. A bad rift or this third level seem possible, it was even part of a wager with Wun, but how common is it? Is Matt not able to power enough of the ship shields to boost it into the 2nd layer? Is it more complicated than that or merely too risky with possibly T40+ people able to spy on them with the shield of chaotic space? Time for more excitement! I wonder how crazy it will be. How crazy can Mantis imagine!


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