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Chapter 456

🕑 Added 2025-09-22 18:59:02 +0000 UTC

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Chimera80

I can see why you have to limit the use of Emmanuel as a character. He’s a living Deus ex Machina, in that he can (narratively and plausibly) pull literally any required any required bullsh|t Talent out of his back pocket. And given: - his age - his resources and authority - the fact his *most* established Talent set focuses around clairvoyance and precognition - his drive to protect his Empire It’s not only narratively *plausible*, but narratively *required* that he do so (because he has means, motive, *and* opportunity to at some point have acquired that needed-in-the-moment Talent)

Julie Smith

This line jumped out at me: "Nothing could possibly go horribly wrong in that short amount of time". What a foreshadowing of a coming disaster! Particularly from a prescient, most powerful being in this Realm. What do we know? Matt and Melinda's talents are Real War disasters waiting to be discovered. Also, the Ascenders have gathered a boatload of rare natural treasures, as has Manny. All it takes is some combination to raise one of the magnificent seven to Matt and Melinda's level of scary Talent that would make a level 50 risk a Real War. Then we have Tim's dangling plot thread. Will he make an awesome break through? I think so, and Luna thinks that's a possibility too. How will Tim's talent affect Matt's guild? How will Liz's treasures affect her? How about Aster? What will she be like if she changes her bloodline to Space Ice? I think we'll get some answers in the next book.

Zwil

LOL

Kevin McGuire

Poor Tim. He caught Luna's attention

Sloth

Tbh so far I’m looking forward to Tim POVs more than the mc. Maybe that’s a hot take but I just really like his character. I hope his talent can provide some kind of technological/cultivation insight that changes the realm

Alex

Well, it was either that or “we’ll all jump on you because you’re becoming too strong too quickly.”

Endgame

I don't t understand why Manny let the other tier 50s regulate "the path" in the Empire. Just because the Empire is turning out Ascenders faster than the others gives them no right to regulate the empire. I mean, what about all the atrocities the other superpowers are doing and no one is regulating them. Sorry I know this is from chapters and chapters ago but it was on my mind.

Etoyrt

He might have only gotten it once and thus becoming stuck at a lower tier version of the growth talent, if it is one. He might also not know if it is because he only got one version of it at one tier.

MinE

Did Manny forget to use his T3 when he met the guy; It say's he got it from a passing T12, so they should have a T3?

Addie

Powerful ending.

Alex

I always wondered if there would come a point where Matt would say "okay, that's enough" and stop doubling his mana. By the time he reaches Tier 50 he'll generate 1.4 quadrillion mana per second, and his 1% will give him 14 trillion mana to throw around at will. By the time he reaches Tier 75 he'll generate 47 sextillion (that 22 zeros) mana per second, and his 1% will give him 470 quintillion mana to throw around at will. What's even the point of having that much mana?

Cteatus

Its cool that Matt's journey to Aspect is going to be made with the Talent as a hindrance rather than the pure boon its been for the past 20 tiers. Its mirroring the concern Matt was having with concentration leading up to his Intent.

C_Mantis

If I'd plan things better it wouldn't be ending here. But if we want this book to go to print, it can't be too long. Sooooooo yeah that's why. I think it works out but yes, you're not wrong.

MinE

For a guy who has had at least two True War level Talents show up on the same planet within ten years of each other, he is a bit overly optimistic about that. P.S. I consider Melinda's Talent coming out possibly causing a "True War" as in T35+; Matt's is just more extreme with it potentially going all the way to T50 with all agreements out the window.

Etoyrt

A few hundred years? A blink of an eye? He does know that Ascenders can be born and rise within that time period, right? Those types can really mess up his plans from what we know so things could in principle be sent off the rails.

Jsar

I'm surprised the book is ending here. I thought it would last until they get back to the empire. Mind you in my brain Minkala is all one book too.

Ron Jarrell

Heh, I picture we get to the end of the series and find out it was actually about tim all along.

Spencer Needler

My guess is that Aiden is the only other person to succeed

Isiah Debarros

He pays for the simplification

Apep

I must admit, I do not enjoy the Tim parts. His talent is too absurd. How does this work? Money is arbitrary. I could accept the talent without the buying part.

Nyroe

Yeah, what is the plan if only one person gets a Tier 50 or 49 artifact? Wouldn't that sway the balance of power too far in their favor, kicking off a real war?

Alex

Your enthusiasm makes me think that we understand Luna’s idea of ‘care’ very differently.

A Flashy BR

Hell yeah tyftc Poor Tim Luna will take care of him

Nathaniel France

Honestly yeah, he could hit up Minkalla as a T11 who’s as old as T20s and basically have a scope AND depth of skills that would allow him to perfectly face any floor given the floors are known. By not being on the Path, Tim (assuming he bounces back stronger then before mentally speaking) could achieve an insane Minkalla and just imagine what benefits someone with his talent could gain from that.

Corvid

Time for Tim to get that existential dread intent!

Tom C

Ah love a bit of character development! Exciting to see what becomes of lil Timmy TFTC!

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

Ali Sha

So Emmanuel has just jinxed himself into the true war with that statement right?

Justus Halbach

Thanks for the chapter! I'm excited to see what you've got cooked up for us in this next book! Enjoy your break and come back to us with fervor!

GrimmRozen

I wonder if the tyrannical stygian urine has anything to do with Matt's stygian gossamer. It would track with them being the guards to the kingdom of eternal prosperity's ruler and the gossamer's indestructibility

C_Mantis

Im glad you enjoyed. Well recap Soreleila once we return to settled space. And ty I need the break lol. As for edits thats fine. I check the comments and reply once ive made the edit.

Thane Tuttle

Hi Mantis, I just wanted to let you know how much I've been enjoying this series. I started in late August and I have just now fully caught up (and at a good time too!). I've really been enjoying Tim's story a lot, as I see a LOT of myself in him (both good and bad). So I'm really curious to see where things go for Tim in the next book. I'd also love to revisit the folks on the former veiled Republic world. Hopefully they're doing better? Until then, I hope you have a great break! Last thing: if we spot a typo, do you want us to mention it in the comments? Thanks for all you do!

Sean McClain

Even if only temporary, she could use it as a great stabilizing skill.

C_Mantis

I dont intend to say too much but I do expect some level of confusion. If people can say what specific aspect they are confused on I might edit but I do want some level here and I obvious can't say waht about

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis! Have a nice break! Ooh, extinct bloodline. That will be fun, and an apparently powerful one to boot. -I assume the stygian refers to some sort of metallic part of them, but I wonder why they got the word Tyrannical in them? Metal for the R1 is likely, but the R2 is probably responsible for the tyrannical, and that has fun potential. -a good person for some M&L's kid to meet. Maybe not the first generation of the bloodline, but the second generation is an option. Kinda fun that Matt isn't shown to be the only one having difficulty. Manny, and Light, have trouble. Matt gets to be shown as masterful in his mana control and only seems lacking at times due to the utterly insane volume of it. Sure Manny is having a large amount of mana at once, not merely a stream of mana, but the point stands. Matt is amazing. I feel that Matt's T50 should be about spiritual strength, or some manner of better controlling his insane mana. Possibly just surviving that insane mana. Nice of Manny to have an option in case Matt needs help. He is still 'good guy Manny' Some people do just die. It sucks. I wonder if that tool is for helping, for the war, or for framing the MC. With Manny's special Talents I wonder how rich the Empire is. I am sure the other GPs are thinking the same about the Empire's reserves. Or maybe they have other somewhat similar Talents in their GPs, Manny is just useful as he is able to come this deep into the Breach. It could be a way to make them think he has his wealth from rift Talents and not Matt's mana. I got excited, and a bit confused, for a second thinking there could be Secret Realms inside a rift... it said Secret Areas. Not sure if that is new. It might just be something we've seen before with a different name, or meaning to a larger degree. I like how Manny's PoV lets us & him see how other people have their own plots. Lets them be more fleshed out as characters. The more you do the more people expect from you. Fun rare rift!! The rewards not simply being up a single tier, but up 2 tiers. Sure it's when full, but the T50 gap is huge. -ah, not so rare... does mean he can more likely take advantage of it. This is not simply something only in this rift of Aofie. Lol, Manny sure knows how to get them attentive. I look forward to Tim getting a literal moon of money for something. I wonder if they did hinder him. Or everyone was leery of why the dukes didn't help him. Either thinking he pissed the dukes off or that Tim was some experiment for them and not ruining their student. His affiliation would surely show up in the background check. Tim went from semi-lazy to fairly-obsessed. Considering Luna, her lover, and others I am not sure if he is a cautionary tale or not. -so still the easy way out? Oooh... Melinda is going to like him. We may even see her this chapter. Oh, this is an interesting PoV, a ruined Concept. I do feel apologetic for Tim, but I'll focus on the interesting. He was going crazy anyhow. I had always been of the mindset that people who failed Luna's training were not obsessive enough. While not a student this can show the opposite. I kinda like seeing Luna's faults. Not because I want her to be wrong, but because it shows she is imperfect and makes the faults she has made more reasonable. She was introduced as perfection for teaching. -like "they drown" Scheduling teasing... how Luna. Luna is a good option for keeping watch, she is too much of a perfectionist to slack off or get... too distracted. See y'all next arc!

wanderer117

biological immortality sounds like a great thing for Melinda to study. Her concept was already letting her heal impossible things. She could create a biological immortality treatment, maybe even a bio immortality skill / magic item in time.

William Johnson

"Nothing could possibly go horribly wrong in that short amount of time." Emmanuel! A tier 50 should know better! I'm really curious about where Tim's deal is going, he's clearly going to do something while the main cast is all off gallivanting, I just have no idea what. Thanks for the chapter, enjoy your break!

wanderer117

Tim's section felt, strange. I'm still not 100% clear on why his talent collapsed when he picked up biological immortality. What were his concept's words? I will be immortal or something?

Trey

oh tim, i hope you have the chance to pick up the pieces of past friendships and put them back together. i do wonder how his immortality might work once he reaches tier 15 though. im trying to see the silver lining of this and maybe his immortality will let him discover things before hitting tier 15 that would take too long for most other people. he could wait for the perfect minkalla run? if he has has immortality and his talent lets him do more that researchers can study, anything they learn would be relevant to people at lower tiers so he kind of is a perfect study forever? if that’s something he decides he wants for himself obviously. phew i really hope he meets helen maybe she’ll have wisdom she can pass to him.

Alex

I imagine Melinda will be VERY interested by that entry.

Alex

Tim’s Concept was always going to shatter in my opinion — he made it because he was obsessed with reaching immortality, so even if he had of gotten there the normal way it wouldn’t serve any purpose anymore. It’s a bit like the Concept Rah made in his old Realm to avenge his lover — once he’d gotten his revenge it shattered because it had fulfilled its purpose. It raises an interesting point about Domains with finite purpose — if someone bases their Self on an eminently achievable goal, what do they become when they’ve done the thing they wanted to do? Take Manny for example: his Truth is that he is Not a Tyrant, but will that mean anything once he Ascends and he’s not The Emperor anymore?

C_Mantis

tixed ty

C_Mantis

I wont say much but once his arc is over I will ask for feed back and edit accordingly. So everyone please do let me know what you think so far. It is helpful and I do read it every comment.

Alex Ledger

Enjoy the break, and yes this book has been a real fun read :)

Etoyrt

It is interesting that this came not long after Rah's discussion of the Ascenders being young.

NotEnoughPixels

Congratulations on wrapping up another book! “That power seemed irreverent as the situation…” -> irrelevant

Thomas Todd

Loved this chapter, some sweet loot and plotting from Manny combined with Tim having a mental breakdown with a splash of Luna. Couldn't have asked for more

Bob of Doom

Huh, so because Tim succeeded at the only thing that provided motivation his world shattered since it wasn’t done in the normal process. I don’t know how I feel about this. It just feels like he crashed out 7 tiers early.

Bunny Waffles

I will admit, I am very firmly fascinated as to where things are going with Tim.

Burgismik

Thank you for the great book! It’s been my favorite so far of the post war ark!

Owen Kaz

Ah Tim, honestly his concept was bound to break, even if he did hit 15. It was just too rigid. Perhaps he would have been fine if he reached tier 15 on his own, making it a stepping stone for his domain, or something along those lines, but I doubt it. His talent is himself afterall, but ultimately he used it as a crutch and was thus setting himself up for this failure

C_Mantis

tyty

Captain Nuclear

<3 Have a lovely break Mantis


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