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Chapter 446

🕑 Added 2025-08-15 18:59:01 +0000 UTC

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Julie Smith

After battling monsters to the edge of Tier 29, there's some battle going on between the Feddies and the Monsters. What will be the Ascenders' role? Will they defeat both? Watch from a distance? Help the Monsters? I don't know.

Hamish Poole

Having discovered the strange realm’s true rewards, they didn’t linger once they were sure nothing else was happening, and instead rushed back to base at their best speeds.

Sean Shivers

Ya, but he cant split his mana pool, unfortunately

Sean Shivers

Cancer

VanillaLice

How did they kill a boss with healing to get healing treasures?

Booksaregood

Arcane and void are polar opposites right, his domain is polar opposites right. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Jordan O'Hare

Am inspiration just before reaching T29, that he then tries to hold in while he gets the last essence necessary? Could be cool. I wonder if having an inspiration inside a SR works or not

Alex

The subaspect stuff is from his Domain, so that’d still be the same. Back in Minkalla when Matt was thinking about changing to Arcane if he got a Blood is Thicker floor he even mentions that endless Arcane mana would be interesting.

Pyrefiend

If Matt aspects his mana to arcane, will that override his mana's endlessness sub-aspect? That was the key ingredient to aura rifts, it would be a shame to lose it.

MinE

That makes sense; I guess it doesn't normally come into play b/c most people of the same tier have a relatively similar mana pool capacity.

SqrlyGrly

Or the stream of stars is the breach itself, all of the planets pouring out of nothingness.

Corvid

I can't wait until one of them inevitably fucks around and then makes a pikachu face as they are finding out

Alex

Also, Matt should compress his mana down to nothing before he tries to aspect it to Arcane. It stands to reason that it'd be much easier for a natural treasure to aspect <1 mana than half a billion mana.

DicedOnions

Theory craft: The part where Matt was working on harmonizing his power and he compared it to Rah's technique just that Matts was a river of stars. What if the stars were essence from all the monsters he killed, the stars in Rah's technique being different periods of cultivation. Realizing this or the connection might lead to an inspiration? Just a delightful little head canon that this chapter inspired love the story!

Havokk

So you have 2 teams of Ascenders working together which should be deterrent enough to make anyone think twice before trying anything BUT when they really want to send the "don't fuck around and you wont find out" message they just have Matt or Liz go talk to them lol.

Matt

Asters natural treasure better be a type ice-cream. Auraura ice-cream.

Alex

I hadn't thought about the Void skill problem: way back in the training world arc Matt says that Void and Arcane are the only two elements that TRULY counter each other - logic says that a person with Arcane mana couldn't use Void spells at all (which checks out with Zack being unable to use Void magic), so if Matt did change his mana type to Arcane he probably wouldn't be able to use [Void Claw] anymore. I think it'd still be worth it - Arcane mana is just better than Neutral mana in the supermajority of situations. [Cracked Phantom Armor] in particular would be massively improved with Arcane mana, since Arcane mana is particularly strong for defensive spells (higher level mana types are better for defensive magic because their complexity makes them more difficult to penetrate, and Arcane is as complex as mana types get).

Alex

Aiden was Tier 31 for the bulk of the war, but he Tiered up to 32 mid-fight during the Battle of The Citadel. It's a bit of a tangent, but if you go back and read Chapter 270 we get a PoV from The Republic's President Janet where she talks about Aiden's breakout war after he completed the Path. During the war he went on a Tiering-up spree where he shot from Tier 25 to 30 at record pace, then he just stopped and decided to sit at Tier 30 for a while with no explanation whatsoever. Everyone thought Manny was bribing him to stop Tiering up, until one day he broke through to Tier 31 and started terrorizing the Tier 35 bracket. I totally overlooked it at the time, but with the benefit of hindsight it is GLARINGLY obvious that Aiden was making his Authority - he Tiered up at record pace as he formed all the pieces he already knew about (Phrase, Image, Anchor, and Truth) then he sat at Tier 30 for a while as he tried to figure out the next piece (the Place) and he Tiered up to Tier 31 when he finished the whole thing.

Cteatus

You know I wondered if Matt's visualization was the problem. Cords never felt right to me, I assumed it was going to end up as a solar system and based on the spin of planets, but the river of stars resembling Rah's cultivation is also a very cool idea. Speaking of Rah, I wonder if the Tidal Breach was brought about or perhaps made stronger because of Rah's ascension. I mean none of the Tier 50s saw it coming, and Rah's ascension was also a surprise. It would make sense to me that the Breach might have followed his Ascension like a wake. And even if it wasn't entirely brought about by it, maybe it was made stronger? Also I'm so curious about Matt re-aspecting to Arcane mana. It seems like it'll add more flexibility, but I assume it'll take void skills off the table which would be a bummer. But given the relationship between white and black holes, maybe one of his Domain abilities will be the ability to invert his mana? Anyway this Breach arc is dope. My one hope is we get more perspectives from the other members of Team Ascender though. Thanks Mantis!

Sean McClain

What tier was Duke Waters in the last war? They are getting close to that. Got to step it up Matt to match that monster.

Jason Hatter

I wonder if Aster tried something with ice cream ..

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! I approve of such mundane tallies as surprising your bff. It's like having long term wagers of a dollar between spouses. Just little things to keep life fun. Maybe a better in realm comparison is wagers amongst ascenders, but that feels more weighty on the rewards. I am suddenly reminded of Matt struggling to get Liz a blood growth item at T5. Now to see if they will go after other teams. Not out of malice, but because they would then risk their natural treasures being corrupted by other elements. -it might make it more likely for other teams to team on them. Rah bringing up the option of co-operation is valid. Another way of preventing aspecting of NTs they want is an agreement not to corrupt other's NTs. -Maybe even a deal about selling the NT a group was trying to farm to them, at a massive price hike but they still get first dibs. -ah yes, fatten the sheep... and then sacrifice them to foretell the future. I feel Liz would actually be the best messenger, assuming her blood clones can spread that far. She reminds them of her might, while also not at risk as it is a clone. She can inform multiple groups, even if her clones have a not insane range. Huh, I'd forgotten about the other GP Ascenders as options for what to make. Well, more I wasn't sure how many opportunities in this SR there would be, so one for each person in the group was already more than I was assuming. But yeah, aspected NTs of their element seem superb gambling stakes. I wonder why it assumed the SR would have a restriction on the number of the same affinity NTs instead of too many different affinities. I'd sorta assume the opposite. Maybe it is more that the few they mentioned are some of the rarest and hardest NTs to make, so maybe most costly for the SR. Hard to be really scientific, but it would be interesting if the sub-aspect of mana types used influenced the resulting NT created. Monster collective right next to the Federation... I'm sure both of the teams will not come to blows. So the Fed ships couldn't enter the SR on their own. Is that because they are all in the same GP or the same guild~? How different do people of the group need to be, and does the SR understand GPs? Would Matt & co. be able to start the SR with just the other Empire team? So that answers the range question. I wonder if the three nearest pocket spaces can all be ichor, or at least blood, that way she has no need to leave the base and is their permanent defense... unless she gets bored. -How will they make an ichor boss without an ichor skill. Just hoping drowning them in ichor, using an ichor spell instead of ichor skill, or using a blood skill with ichor is enough for a good NT. Ooh, a good point about the pocket spaces being aspected means there are opportunities to grow by simply experiencing the affinity. Like Aster did at the Path camp and the Moore family enjoyed at MAL's capital planet. I know Aster isn't the same duchy, but it seemed easier than differentiating M&L from their M&L parents.... of course now I've wasted even more time, but that's still humorous fun. Something like a river of stars... relativistic jet? The excretion of a black hole. Maybe the connection between a black and white hole. the path between them? Poor Rah. Well, he may not cultivate higher, but his skill may improve? Excitement! Who ever would've guessed that the MC & Feds who are right next to each other would be the first to attack each other.... truly a surprise.

Tom C

TFTC

C_Mantis

Notably they dont know what the NT's are until they leave.

SCDarkSoul

Mm. So in downtime the passive cultivation of Rah was good enough that he was able to keep pace with them while they all had to do other things. But active delving is still too much huh? Though really, that he keeps comparing himself with capital A Ascenders is certainly setting a high target for himself. I hope he and Susanne can manage it.

Kasamuri

Thanks for the chapter!

Bryce Daniel

Thank you for the chapter!!

Jordan O'Hare

Wow what a great chapter. I can't believe they got an endless teleporting ice natural treasure. What a find!


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