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Chapter 473

🕑 Added 2025-12-05 19:59:02 +0000 UTC

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Brian Katula

I think the patreon levels are busted. I couldnt read this with the $10 level, it was locked

Shandlar

Given he had to completely reinvent a new way of enchanting the relatively mid complexity enchantments on his sword to handle the new liquid-solid mana, I dont think hes nearly skilled enough to actually create the notoriously ruinous difficulty enchantments for storage rings into the medium yet.

TimeDrawsNigh

I think this is the first time the word “email” has been used in-story.

Julie Smith

Ah. The old "take advantage of a problem to do what you want ploy". I see this in politics a lot. Now I see it in a cultivation novel.

MinE

Mostly an early chapter thing, but most non channel spells have a default/min cost.

Ian

80 mana reserve? Eh? Since when have we added distinct units of mana to spells? Or has this always been the case but we the reader are just inundated in Matts overflowing/crystallized mana? Edit: nice chapter, but felt like far more spelling/grammatical errors than usual.

Alex

I don’t think Lila’s back yet.

Tommy

TFTC! Some gentle suggestions… Few chances for close up interactions and character development missed here I think? When holidaying with Rah and interacting with the new guy and his new turtle. Spending time together just Liz and Matt. Seeing Aster’s ice element development and how it’s affecting her emotionally with her domain probably losing aspects of itself. It’s lovely from a certain perspective we get to see time passing and know that they’re living at immortal time speeds. But yeah. As I saw someone else comment. Still need to see the close up-and-personal interactions occasionally if possible? I still enjoyed this chapter very much! And still love the story obviously!

C_Mantis

That's the purpose of the time skip, to allow for more 'direct interaction' but I'm trying to keep the plot moving. I have notes the comments to this end tho. (It just feels like people were complaining about the opposite before the exploration arc so I'll take it as a win that people want the opposite)

Desidia

We’re not getting the Lila’s reaction? I sort a got the idea that Lila did horrible in her delve compared to Aster and the others. I kinda wanted a funny comparison scene… and maybe Wu Kong getting smashed more.

H3lg3

Thanks for the chapter!

Scott McGrath

I've been keeping up on these chapters for awhile and one thing that I feel has been lost to the weeds is the personal interactions. Since the end of...I wanna say minkalla it just seems to have been sped up to the point of impersonality. I realize we are spanning centuries with mortal time-frames but I think the most poignant scenes for me in the recent...year or so, have been when they are just talking. Rah being read in on the secret and reminding them they were mortals was really the last bit of personality I can remember. I would love to see some slowed down discourse from the main characters some back and forth or even just a slow scene with Matt and Liz talking about the past few centuries in a recap with their old friends. I miss the days where Matt was interacting with Liz's family and they had a pillow fight got drunk and Leon ended up in a bottle. I still keep up and read the chapters on the day they are posted, edits and rewrites be damned I love these characters. But I kinda miss interacting with them as well.

Gunnar Crider

I'm surprised he didnt try and store anything in his new crystals.

MinE

I'm seriously wondering how that works with the culling they do? I don't remember if it was done by time or tier, but they kill at least half every time. At minimum it'll take longer to build up enough fodder to put in the meat grinder.

MinE

I assume he did; he was at T14, had a Concept, wasn't actively suicidal ,and seemed to be doing better. Plus he knows T15's immortality is optional and how to detonate/crack his cores; I'm sure they waited till he got reasonably better to tell him the second bit, but he should still know it by now. P.S. I wonder if him getting an inspiration forcing him to T15 would shatter his Concept.

Reis_

Typo: The windfall elevated them from a third rate Order to a first *rare* one in only two hundred years. rare > rate

C_Mantis

I didn't want to slow things down too far given the chapter is already long. Happy for feedback.

C_Mantis

I will say without spoilers that we are well over the halfway bump of the story. I know our emd game point and don't intend to drag things out.

John Sanders

The issue is Manny is gone and the royals the only people who can tell dukes what to do can't interfere. And matts statement probably means he is going to go and beat them into submission for being stupid

Jason Hardman

TYFTC! Couple of edit suggestions: about a control Concept destruction. -> controlled his fine tune mana control -> wasn't sure if this should be "fine-tuned" or just "fine-tune", but I did learn that it's more correct if hyphenated.

StabAlloy

The issue is that with the accelerating passage of time it's difficult to avoid conversations between the characters feeling jarring when they happen decades apart. The events this chapter touched on could have been several arcs, and would likely have felt like endless politicking and experimentation.

A Flashy BR

Tyftc!!

Derze

Can anyone explain to me the last paragraph? Or is it intended to be vague. How are they getting the nobles to fix the issue. It’s interesting how aura became a distribution and logistical problem now that it has access to a market. Purposely made scarce. Then again isn’t there government incentives for companies that did produce them? I thought Manny had implemented more social reforms after Agatha’s . Can’t the Empire take the cost ? Overall having their citizens at a higher avg tier means they will recoup the loss , since they will have a greater mana generation/ delving higher tiers. It is in Manny’s best interest that auras be distributed at cost. Increase prices when selling to other major powers and limit exports to keep local. Have the Duchy or Vassals pay from their coffers. And have a tax return or reduced taxes for a century or two if they reach a quota of rifts or something. (Though in hindsight doesn’t prevent talent evasion,ie , people out tiering the world and moving to a different place, still… I’d imagine there are systems in place to compensate )

Tsorov

He helped so many people to make the skill, it became easy to him.

Kasamuri

Thanks for the chapter!

Jeppe Fiig

First rare one -> first rate one?

Nathaniel France

Lots of fun world building with this one. I’m looking forward to Matt’s growth item, and I’m assuming it’s going to be one of those huge game changers, the way Cracked Phantom Armor was, or Talismans during his time as Quill, or even how regeneration is a cornerstone of how he fights now. That aside, I find myself curious where we go next. We’ve obviously long since put the original premise of the series, the Path itself, behind us. We cleared Minkalla, cleared the path, have grown into themselves, had a dabble in Minkalla 2.0, so obviously we still have the big war, but that should be some time from now. 50 tiers is a LOT to cover without the story turning repetitive (clear rifts, deal with cabal, repeat) so I’m quite excited to see what Mantis plans. Do we put more spotlight on the future generation? Maybe check in with the next group or Ascender hopefuls? Or maybe we go back into the nitty-gritty as they work on personal projects again, going back to the R&D roots? I’m just really curious where we go from here, because Mantis has earned the trust that I believe whatever we do will be enjoyable.

Aaron Hardin

The higher Allie and Matt get in tier, the more likely that the Empire with limited allies would be able to survive the upcoming true war. As Allie goes up in Tier, she will be able to take higher tiers with her (if she gets high enough to take Manny (while he can copy her talent, I think waypoints may reset or something, so it does not work all that well) without much strain). Same with Matt, in that wars take time and mana, so the bigger the edge in available Mana Matt can provide, the better the resources the empire will have compared to the other powers (particularly as the war goes on). The other ascender getting into a higher tier that will make a huge difference is Aiden since a massive tier gap is really the only way he can be dealt with (Allie teleporting him is also a nightmare for the other powers). If the empire is able to get all their ascenders to T40 or higher before the true war (plus Lila is still around too) they will pretty much be guaranteed to win (Aiden may also pull off the next domain stage to just to show everyone up, at that point he has a pretty good chance of taking out the T50s if he can deploy it with them in spiritual range (their spiritual ranges are so much larger than his that they could always take him out from outside his perception until he gets into the mid 40s I am guessing though, so it would be more a surprise thing while having a higher tier giving him cover from just being taken out preemptively, more likely is him taking out at least one heir apparent T49).

Nathaniel France

On the other hand, JR might be a terrible person to tell because Matt has the potential to break the economy from a mana abundance perspective. Sort of depends if JR cares more about current riches, or angling for future riches.

Solopath

Great chapter, but the start felt a little jarring. Last chapter kinda ended on that cliff about Luna wanting to talk about Tim once Liz was available, only for Liz to respond saying she was ready, with italics. It made it seem like there was a larger issue or goal coming up, only for Matt and Liz to take a vacation.

CoolMusette

"Without looking up where they were, they spent two weeks traveling as fate and teleportation schedules directed them." Is this supposed to be years?

Quinton Ginger

Did Justinian ever decide to become tier 15? I can’t remember if that was ever mentioned.

William Howe

“ elevated them from a third rate Order to a first *rare* one “> ‘rate’

Endgame

I love this series but I need to say that there has been so little dialog ever since they went into the breach.

William Howe

“on a more time lax version of the Sects’ Path”

William Howe

“…he was confident he could direct someone to make the skill asleep.” ?

Ekuet

Is Melinda still trying to "cure" death? If so has she talked to Tim since he became immortal before Tier 15? I've been wondering about this for a while.

Rodney

I really enjoy that they got to spend some time just being regular people after having spent 180 some odd years on the path I wish they would have spent 10 years or more in their own duchy but I understand that they probably would have felt obligated to take care of issues but I would love to have read about their adventures back on Soerilia now that it's properly integrated

The Arcane Emperor

So around 500 years went by this chapter alone. How old are MLA now ? I would guess about 1500.

Throngler In Chief

Thanks for the chapter! I have a mental image of Matt playing the role of Teddy Roosevelt in one of the old "Trust Busting" political cartoons, except wielding a Liz as the club while a golden Chicken-Liz laughs on his shoulder.

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! Now time to see if the Growth Item will be broken! Huh, was Tim created by Mantis to give Aster a foundation for altering her Concept? Oof, I hadn't thought about losing the Concept boosts she's worked so hard to get. Oh no, immortals wanting to live among mortals... throwing shade at the veil a bit. I wonder if there are any immortals who just like being a gossip, low stakes things. Any immortals playing Karen in HR. A nice relaxing 9-5 with a 1 hour commute each way... rich people are weird. Now Liz and Matt get to be the secret immortal teachers in the stories! -I wonder how many people, even in other GPs, hope or think that someone they know is secretly an immortal. Maybe going the greek god route and treating people nicely just in case. Dang it, people know. Still can have some fun stories, or make some cheesy movies more believable if it is known to happen. -I'm thinking Rom-coms... thought admittedly immortals among mortals as romance doesn't have the best background, it just fits the successful person coming home. And a bit of the cheesiness if the person helps their love tier up and become immortal, fitting some other romance tropes. -I wonder how often immortal among mortals causes issues, with showing how deeply integrated the immortal is. Has Suzanne gone as an immortal among mortals? A good reminder that non-combat roles are a huge percentage of the population. Still wanting a Talent based around T0 skills. Not even needing a broken Talent. Kinda happy to see a different version of the Path. Hall of Aspirants. Increased mana stone density! (sorta, and limited, but it counts.) "He didn't quite make it".... Inspiration?! (Couldn't he hold it?) Not sure if the issue, with Aura's, is real or manufactured... which is a fun question in fiction but less so in real life. Meh, gonna have fun for now. -I think it's real, maybe emphasized but real. I don't think the Empire care's too much about diversity as long as people have the opportunity. Or maybe they are willing to delay addressing the issue until after the true war, just getting more immortals for now. -oh different but still annoying political/ business issues. And still interesting enough when kept in fiction. Another political mini-arc on the way?

Alex

It's such a bizarre idea that people are spending centuries traveling back from the breach - and it really puts into perspective how game-changing Allie's Talents are. It's a great example of an idea that's really easy to overlook: Talents can fundamentally change how a person experiences the world. I think that's one of those things you can 'know' without really UNDERSTANDING. Distance and travel are such fundamental parts of a person's experience of the world, and for Allie they basically don't exist. Just try and appreciate how different her view of the world would be from the norm, just because she can treat any distance as a zero. I find ideas like that so fascinating: how you can change one little part of a person's experience of the world, and they almost become a different species altogether because of how alien their perspective would become.

Toxiferous

Also: but now that about Tim she only intended Looks like the above needs reworked a bit

Toxiferous

Thanks for the chapter! Just started, but saw a couple extra apostrophes seneschal's rein's

Brisingaer

Hmm. Thinking about Matt's growth item. I do hope it is more interesting than a direct spiritual crutch. If it literally just lessens spiritual strain for overchanneling that would be a bit of a letdown. Especially if JR could custom make a guaranteed Minkalla-level growth item. He would probably have to be read in on Matt's talent and given context for Matt's true desires for the item. I bet JR could be paid off to support Matt's freedom and the Empire if Matt makes a binding promise to provide him a T50 planet. Plus it makes Max less of a concern given she is the Corporations Ascender. Her T50 leader already knowing the secret would help the cause if she eventually fully figures out Matt's talent.

Thomas Todd

If I'm remembering correctly he combined it as part of the reward during one of the earlier strange realms. He decided to combine those instead of Phantom Armour and his buffing skill because that combo was easier and he wanted more research before going for the Phantom Armour combo

Westin Lanser

TFTC

Desidia

I love the new world-building on tier 0 skills.

Cteatus

> Even before he combined [Mana Slash], [Mana Charge], and [Tribulation Strike] into [Titan’s Wrath], the improved liquid mana core allowed him to express almost five percent more power alone. So I assume this means [Titan's Wrath] is done? The Skill has been successfully modified? This feels like a lot of ambiguity for a skill that's been on the horizon for so long. I assume it'll be properly shown off in a fight at some point, but I do wish it got a little more fanfare. Or at least clarity (assuming its done)

C_Mantis

Fixed ty

Alex

The loss of Concept diversity caused by aura potions is an interesting problem, and it suggests that making pure aura Rifts should probably shoot up to the top of Matt's priority list.

Dan

“Aster had originally planned to join them but now that about Tim she only intended to take a break” missing some words here I think


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