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[Announcement] Charge Upfront System
🕑 Added 2016-05-12 12:33:24 +0000 UTC Hello, dear supporters! Did you know that Patreon just updated a new system into this website that can finally help me prevent all of the bots, fake patrons and thief accounts who become my patrons just to steal all of our arts and leave without pay anything? This is something that is not fair for me and all the other patrons who have the element of loyalty who truly support me with their payment.But before I can activate this system, I must inform you all first about what is going to happen after this system comes online, please read this IMPORTANT information so you all understand what will occur to all of us...
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What Is "Charge Upfront"?
Charging upfront is a new option for monthly creators that lets them charge their patrons upfront as soon as they pledge.
How will this feature change how your patrons are charged?
New Patrons: New Patrons will be charged on the day they pledge. They will be charged on the 1st of the month for their next charge and all following charges.
Example: A patron pledges to Jack (a Patreon creator) on February 25th for $10 per month. They will be charged $10 on the day they pledge, February 25th, for February patronage. On March 1st, the Patron will be charged $10 for March patronage.
Existing Patrons:
Your existing patrons will be charged on the 1st of the month like usual.
Example:
A patron pledges to Jack (a Patreon creator) on January 5th for $10 per month. The patron is charged on February 1st for January patronage. On February 25th Jack changes his campaign so that patrons are charged upfront. The patron will be charged $10 on March 1st for March patronage.
If an existing patron increases their pledge, they will be charged the difference between their last pledge value, and the new pledge value. On the 1st of the month (and every 1st of the month thereafter) they will be charged the full amount of their pledge until they cancel or edit their pledge.
Example:
A patron pledges to Jack (a Patreon creator) on January 5th for $10 per month. The patron is charged on February 1st for January patronage. On February 25th Jack changes his campaign so that patrons are charged upfront. On February 26th the patron increases their pledge to $15. The patron will be charged $5 on February 26th. Then the patron will be charged $15 on March 1st for March patronage and they will continue to be charged $15 every 1st of the month thereafter until the patron cancels or edits their pledge.
For more information => https://patreon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210291283
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This system is still not activated yet, because I want to ask you first if you are all okay with this change or not. If this "Charge Upfront" becomes online, I don't have to worry about bots that keep appearing all the time in my Patreon anymore (It's not easy to tell apart between the human users and automatic programs (Not until their pledge become decline at the beginning of the month), and especially who is truly going to pay or just come to steal…).
But "Charge upfront" is a permanent change and I will be unable to revert back once it becomes active.
IMPORTANT: Remember, existing Patreons are not charged upfront, you are all still charged at the start of each month.
So...Do you mind If I adopt the “Charge Upfront” system and stop fake patrons, art stealers and bots forever?
![[Announcement] Charge Upfront System](https://img10.patrefans.com/storage/3/pq/nu/563145-019e7ec7-d0eb-79c5-b6c5-668b54c35047.png)
Comments
Kazz
system supports paywalling
Borg Lord
If I had designed Patreon, this new system is how it would have worked from day one.
karl lurz
this will help in the long run so might as well start it now so you people cant steal anymore art
Smart Alec
I'd say the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. If new patrons want to complain, then they should become patrons near the beginning of the month so they can feel more like they pay for the entirety of the month. So not only do the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, the disadvantages have an easy fix. To make a long story short (too late), I say go for it.
Fine with me.
Sorden
Do it.
FramedPixelStudio
Just do it! This should be implemented long time ago. Screw all those thieves. Let's make them pay 8D
Drago Whooves
sounds good to me
Philip
Go for it. Honestly, I was a little surprised the first month I signed up that my first charge didn't hit immediately after I added myself to your list.
Justin
That's fine, do whatever helps you.
Duke Of Donuts
I'm ok with this change.
Nioxi Sterling
Absolutely do it!
Raile21
Go for it, the loyal one lose nothing and its not like you can or would misuse our personal and financial data like the FBI
UxieKnight
Well then I have no power people having what time of the month month they pledge
Tomba871
Just do it, no harm can come from securing yourself from bots.
Lokitty the Immortal
Go for it!
No problem for me, go for it.
Sura-Resch
Go for it.
Zeropony55
I'm fine but I kind of do feel bad about people who might pled near the end of the month let's say a day before the month ends. So they get charge twice and what happen if they pled for $100 for example. So they wasted an extra $100 if they could have waited one more day. I think if people going to pled should be aware it's a charge upfront then never at the end of the month
Magical Trevor
No skin off my nose. Go for it.
Mitch
I think the pledge upfront covers the first of the month coming, not the current month. Either way, seeing the numbers drop by 30 - 40 from the end of the month to the start of the next one, and then returning once billing period is over, tells you how many are just here for a free ride...This system eliminates that completely. :D
Edmon Star
No problem here; I'll still pledge my support
Incarno
Of course this system does come with a major drawback... namely that much fewer people will pledge to you in the last half of the month.
Incarno
It makes sense to have that sort of system. It's far to easy now to abuse it and grab a big slot for a few minutes just to see the art and then revert back right away.
Darkaito
Fine with me
Benjamin
No problem at all
Zosimos Wreden
You should do it, it's only fair to you, my queen. You literary working yourself down to your bones, those bots and thieves shall not get what they want.
Do it :D
vtcctv
sounds good
Mitch
Finally! No more fakers and thieves! :D
Ranma( Matty)
Have no problem
