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Josh

@Penguin - oh yeah, it's the kind of thing where I don't really BLAME him; he's not much of a critical thinker and he's in a terrible situation - it's more of an indictment of their execrable society.

HandsomePenguin

Nothing quite like a sibling to know JUUUUUUUUUUUST what to say...

HandsomePenguin

He has also been going to war since he was a literal child. So the definition of good might be a bit skewed here.

Josh

@Rob - I have noticed that this Lemuel character may not actually be a very good person

Rob N

Wow, using someone's survivor's guilt against them is a real dick move...

Duke BG

I see. But this "giving an enemy a chance" reasoning comes a very close to the general trope of victim-blaming. Of course, with a huge difference that in a war, you have to take reasonable precautions to not "give" an enemy such a chance. In real world there's usually a need of whole separate system of military court to determine whether some orders were criminally endangering the personnel or reasonable within the situation. And it's especially tough because (1) civil judges are just not equipped to make such judgments – thus a military structure needed which is kinda itself a waste of military resources during the war (and personnel wasting time in trials instead of fighting); (2) the people that would have a good perspective on the situation / be witnesses might be already dead. There's no conclusions in this post. Lemuel stabbing Duane by Duane's own insecurties about this, though...

CD

I think the part that's killing me is they're both kind of right? People ARE almost certainly preying on Lem's desperation. Duane DOES tend to retreat into narrative and philosophy. Those boys from The Brothers Adelier are shining through, this scene :(

Spen Cyrrh

duane must be either pretty socially thick or have intentionally forgotten this conversation, for that subsequent chat to make sense in context. why not both i suppose

Ashley

Lemuel's logic is Duane wasted time fucking around trying to impress Claggart (ego), Jon called him out on it and put a stop to it, and the enemy had their chance to conclude their attack. Everything exploded from there. Lemuel thinks this because Duane has thought this in the past, and agonized to his brother over it during many a drunken pity party. It's a very shitty thing to throw back in his face right at this moment.

Duke BG

It doesn't even make much sense. Duane's ego was neither a cause of that particular engagement, nor a cause of Jon's demise.

Ashley

It circles back to status quo by the end, and winds up... making that chapter 7 conversation come off quite different. This is a bad night for Duane.

astine

Low blow

Capsandnumbers

Oh man this is so real. Great page, really heartbreaking! It's funny to connect this to chapter 7 where Duane's like "Hey is something bothering you?"

Stretch Andrews

No one can wound more terribly than family.

Ashley

Pretty accurate.

Ladile

Me: Whoa Lem, that's pretty rude! Also Me: Pretty sick burn, tho *Oof Stones meme goes here* More seriously, I actually do feel bad for Lem here. It might be a simplistic summation of things but it feels like Lem wants Big Brother Duane to make things better like he did when they were kids, only Duane can't/won't. So Lem's concluded that as much as he might love him, big bro ain't shit so he's gotta Be The Adult and take care of matters himself.