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Conclave (2024) (w/ Brandon Taylor)

🕑 Added 2025-05-08 11:00:09 +0000 UTC

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Charlie

"The 30 Years War was an attempt to destroy the universal church" is a low key insane take haha I think you guys might be getting a little to deep into Catholicism when you pull one like that out. But more seriously I do kind of wonder if some of the ways the Church is discussed here might be a bit apologistic, or at least something of a gloss over it. Like it is fun to talk about the queeny Cardinals and the campy ceremony, bit the reality of the Church is deeply homophobic and misogynistic institution. Maybe one day it won't be, and I am not saying it is irredeemable, bit today it is, and has been for 2000 years. This is obviously something that Matt, as a gay Catholic, has to navigate much more than I do. But it is a note of discomfort I have in conversations like these.

Deborah Quick

while understanding & sympathyzing with matt's & sam's avoidance of bsky (although puzzled you both seem to still be on formerly known as twitter?) i commend to you & everyone else reading this looong but very interesting thread on bsky - https://bsky.app/profile/rahaeli.bsky.social/post/3lorau2fxx22b & would love a show discussing its contents.