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Chapter 66 – Obvious Solutions

🕑 Added 2024-07-16 22:00:07 +0000 UTC

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Allan Greenwood

Ranks are basically normalised attributes excluding fate. They're just an easy number to point at. Tiers are basically the potency of a spell or skill. Each tier you go up increases potency by 50 percent. This is compounding effect so a gap of 5 tiers is 6 times as powerful. A gap of 1 tier is on 1.5 times as powerful. Levels is expertise within an ability. Each level in a skill or spell increases the efficiency of of the ability. At level 2, 4, 8, 16 ... Each ability may have a threshold bonuses that adds extras to the ability. Lower tier spells usually get their first bonus at 16 or 32. Higher tier ones get them at 2. The exact benefit each level is never defined. But at tier 0 32 levels double the power of most abilities. At higher tier 4 levels will double the power of the ability but the levels are far harder to get at higher tiers... Yeah it's complicated

Brian Beard

So can someone run me through how Levels / Ranks / Tiers work again. I though I had a handle on it but I think I've got it wrong ans I cant find where it was originally secrib3d hack at the start

Corwin

I am sure he can shorten the time. But I think it will take more than once to see something done. Average person takes 66 days to learn something new. And Skills have taken Tom to learn. And these were T1 and T0 skills

Corwin

Nah bud. The system denotes age and rank, if you are 6 years old and have the attack power of a Rank 4, this is your area of battle. So no lies there. And while potions exist how many can be given to a child without adverse effects? And I am not saying Tom will enter at age 6. That is what he was striving for. 8, I think might be pushing it but I believe it might be possible.

Arnon Parenti

But Tom has all the cheats, he has perfect recall from the pseudo system room, he has Fate, and he has precognition mana to ignite any skill. He can observe Kang doing the skill once, then go over the lectures as slow or fast as he'd like, pause and repeat ambiguous parts, ask hard questions like Deus taught him with the Oracle and whenever he gets close abuse fate and precognition to roll over the problem.

Arnon Parenti

The variation is immense, one human grows linearity, another has growth spurs, another has developmental problem, one was hit on the head and is marginally shorter, another was fed an elixir and is 15ft tall... Now take your charts and tell me if this child is 6 or 10, when the GODs tell you he is 8 and you have no reason not to believe them, when the average age to enter the Trial is 12 and prodigies make it as young as 9, you try to tell me shorty over there is so far off the talent chart he entered the competition at 6? I think you spent too much time around the human spawns, you need an urgent vacation Seer Corwin.

Corwin

Now think about Kang and Briana. How well do you think they can teach? Since those two would teach Tom

Arnon Parenti

Tom is the absolute greatest teacher of skills in any literature I ever read. Consider Rahmat, Tom got him to develop a Domain so powerful it killed a dragon and made most of the Trial of the GODs trivial, from a bunch of dreams, try to describe "purple" and up it to 11 for conveying an amorphous feeling from a Domain Skill Tom didn't previously have. He managed to inspire everyone in his group to develop their fate application to a level that angered the GODs in spite of a Gaeas, an enhanced Gaeas, and a curse that was literally a GOD telling him to shut up. Tom's fate prayers are still 60 years into the future Humanities strongest tool. Tom isn't a great teacher, he is the greatest.

Corwin

Why do you think it would take a long amount of time? It's height measurements maybe weight (if someone has a weird skill). With three facilities that house kids, with a variety of ages and sizes, you wouldn't have to spend that much time. You wouldn't even have to get close. The kids are let out periodically and into soft target zones instead of the hard target zone we're they sleep. 3 people, six or seven years. Than you go home write your report and send it to the masses.

Arnon Parenti

Humans grow from a foot long to 6ft long in the time it takes to travel from the colony to their spawning halls, you can't track this kind of growth unless you have someone on site making charts for some odd reason instead of doing their job of tracking human spawn abilities to find the teleport earth golem expert as soon as they reincarnate.

Corwin

I would assume species have the same problem as race within identifying. But size of children is tough. Since while 6 and 8 might be close, 10 and 12 are bigger size difference.

Corwin

The only issue I see is the effectiveness of teaching. Kang and Tom should have a small ability to teach. Though Teaching is usually good for deepening knowledge about the subject.

Corwin

But would he need to be boosted to that high of a degree? With a 75% perception boost. He wouldn't need to be faster. So much as being able to move faster after he perceives the threat.

Allan Greenwood

If I was going to hypothsis I think it's probably related to the fact that there are no buff abilites or movement skills that can boost him enough at the tier 1 level. He needs to more than double his speed. There would be stuff at tier 2 but she's restricted on only teaching tier 0 and 1. I guess she could get aroudn that by, teaching the sub parts (tier 1 skills) and provdiing high level guidance to evolve them to the higher tier but that would take too long.

Arnon Parenti

I assume he'll use a spear in the trial, as it's the most common human weapon and it was hinted the gods themselves protect the identity of trialgoers, it could be as subtle as saying he was 8yo and no one can link SuperTom with ClarkTa because they search in all the wrong places. Humans all look the same to Wador, arguably the closest competition race to human as possible without being demihuman, so no way anyone else can differentiate a 6yo and an 8yo.

Arnon Parenti

How much worse than nothing can it get? He didn't have anything like it before, so he has no reference point to build the skill from scratch, if learning from a 5yo tutor a skill he has to physically develop kills all future evolutions how is he supposed to learn any advanced skills ever? I get not buying skills from xp shop, and not gaining Traits from stones, but not learning from a tutor seems oddly adversarial.

Corwin

Curious on why April is suggesting a spear skill over a different skill. Assuming he could use a movement skill or a buff ability

Allan Greenwood

I was going to argue too... but... it's not a bad idea. Even if it takes him a year or two to develop outside the trial it's stuff he can add in to his day to day training.

James Faulkner

Tftc!

rusty_roots

I was going to argue, but a five year old would obviously want a skill like quick step and it would maximize his time spent. Though... would it be worth potentially getting a worse skill?

Arnon Parenti

Feels strange that Tom isn't tapping the reincarnators' skill pool, he really should try to get his hands on some hints from Kang and Briana about their Skills.


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