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Chapter 84 – Lightning Path

🕑 Added 2024-08-22 22:02:52 +0000 UTC

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gordianTangle

My guess is that those are a nightmare to build from first principles, due to all that is involved. Might be cheap because for most people it is fairly bad, but things can be both cheap and complex.

Derrick McDowell

I wonder why he isn't looking at any of those chaos bolt spells they were using to cheese fate before.

Corwin

It doesn't have to be wood. I said he should be looking at different spells and affinities for an answer. Even if he did it in 6 months, Tom has to deal with people who are immune to Stun by lightning. Or even partially immune to stun. Yes, he can use his sideways evolution to help offside the partially immune but not many people are going to play with him long enough to overcome it. As well as his precog affinity is higher than his lightning. So that should be easier if he goes that route. As for wood, he has spent a year and a half crafting with it so he should have some ability. His Earth, and Dark affinity he spent year in the tutorial practicing as well as spending his Extensia time using Earth as well as Lightning. As for how quickly poisons that nature provides? Depends on dosage. On earth it's between 30 minutes to 4 hours. But I doubt Tom has looked to see how Extensia plant life differ especially with tiers. And Tom and Corrine didn't figure out the best way to move Forward. Corrie took a battering ram to Tom's delusion of winning. Factoring in how many range attackers straight up counter him, immune to his lightning and so on. They took his current build to see that he had a 2 to 5 percent chance of winning now. He needed something to break a shield since everyone not named Tom has a Shield of Mana at least when they walk into a fight. And 10 percent of the people he would be fighting are completely immune to his lightning as well as an unknown number of people who are partially immune to his lightning. So branching out isn't a bad idea. And since he wants a multi element domain branching out is a requirement as well as figuring out how to blend different elements together, though that will probably take years.

Krzysztof Kiel

''Forty steps meant it would be over half a year of training before he would gain it.'' not 18-24. ''Lightning Javelin was the only choice available unless he was willing to wait over a year and maybe two to -gain something better.'' thats your 18-24 months, not Lightning Javelin. You want him to start new branch of magic he has lower affinity for from zero - both experience in past and no current spells and then you assume getting similar level of fighting power? Lightning is fast. Wood/nature/poison is not. What level of power they would need to be to both hit and do the job of slowing opponent down? How many of the opponents are vulnerable to life and how many to lightning? Tom went with Corrine over it and figured out best way to move foreward. The only possible faster way to get stronger we know of in the setting is Chaos Bolt and author still haven't revealed it's evolution path and we can't assume it's going to bring higher results on average, since DEUS is not recommending it. And every spell he works on that doesn't bring him closer to his domains is a setback.

Talen Drake

Yeah, I get that Lightning Spear is pretty sick with his skills and history, but something like Root Spear would help him more against enemies that hard counter lightning. He should be working on them as well. His eventual domain would be so much better if he focused on integrating it as a Natural Spear Domain or something, where he uses his affinities and his weapon in harmony. Healing = Life, Lightning = Weather, Wood = Plants, Earth is just Earth. I don't remember all his affinities, but if he boosted some others to make it come together it would be so much more powerful. His inability to step back and look at the big picture seems very much like arrogant Tom though. His whole crafting is lame attitude might be getting fixed, but the Trial Spirit not helping him see the rest of the big picture seems off, and DEUS guidance also seems off.

Corwin

No, I am not. A forty step plan that takes 18 to 24 months is too long of a time before he can increase his chances. Actually nature wouldn't be a bad thing, since you are trapping an opponent negating their speed. And poisonous plants could also help negate their speed even if they break free. As for precog his affinity puts his advance danger skill at Rank 2 at par with a Rank 6/7 skill. So precog wouldn't be bad either. As for Tom's past skills in Lightning, Earth, Spear and Healing. His skill was only in the usage not in the creation which as we have seen is a stumbling block. And after 18 months of him hitting the same block it's a bit old for him to think I this is the only path I can walk

Krzysztof Kiel

I think you are ignoring Toms past proficiency in lightning, that's why he thinks he can do it "so fast", others should take even more time to learn. And I don't think nature magic would be good here anyway, since his worst problem is opponents speed and why he's focusing on his fastest magic type. Not precog either since it was mentioned Basic precog abilities start at T2, and I cant imagine atacking precog would be low tier

GSA

that's hilarious hahaha, sorry hahah

Corwin

So if Tom is looking at different spells why not look at his different affinities for an answer if Lightning is going to take a 18 to 24 months, to get where he is going? Like Grow and Entanglement with his Wood affinity would be two spells but most like faster to achieve. And using poisonous plants to entangle his enemies would allow him to deal damage and increase his chances of winning. Or using his healing affinity to cause someone to have an aliment or two. Or mess with one or two senses. Or using his precog affinity to attack his opponents minds. Since most people will not have resistance to those kind of attacks at his stage of their development. Cause at the moment we aren't seeing an adult who plans and schemes to win.

Ambrose

I swear like one in ten words Corrine said this chapter was “fucking”.

Allan Greenwood

I tried to teach my kids that knowing swear words is fine. You just have to not use them when they'll offend people. Basically they're responsible for any offense they cause. First two kids are fine, barely swear and never in front of strangers. . Then my youngest when he was seven started throwing temper tantrums and he would pull out every swear word he knew and link them together... I kind of wish with him I had gone down the path of keeping them from him. Six months later he's better but still not there.

Scott Frederiksen

My mom's favorite saying is "it's never to early for the F word."

Shannon Sexton

Actually Tom should be asking Dometri to grant every graduating 15yo

Shannon Sexton

That's for the gods/author to decide

Shannon Sexton

He won't get them. Asking is the point.

Johan Persson

Well, i think the reason is personality. I like it, some people (me included lol) just curse a lot.

Adurna

Could be worth chilling on that to try and get more other randomised skills.

Adurna

How would that work with less sure affinities like spear or dodge?

Shannon Sexton

Tom could ask Corrine to buy him Chaos Bolt and later Chaos Domain just to drill the point of fate utility home!

Shannon Sexton

About time Tom considered efficient training using the training ring may actually have a sweet spot. Maybe pushing it to hard is actually less effective. He could edge up to be competitive with Brianna. This would help her and perhaps help him?

Shannon Sexton

Affinity based training rate, with 90 taken as 1:1. Given exponential nature of Affinity measures. Tom could end up with 200% on precognition, 50% on earth and lightning and 4% on healing. Total guesses on how this works, but fun to consider.

BerciTheBeast

TFTC! Corrine swore a lot again for no apparen reason.

Arnon Parenti

DEUS would most likely plan for that in the 40 years she had to negotiate before Tom's reincarnation.

Casual Ham

It'd be hilarious if Tom has a buff to crafting but a bad conversion for combat skills in the champion area.

Thomas Tainter

I like to imagine they bartered for Tom's skills before his precognition affinity was upped and most of his high affinities are pretty poor, but precognition is massive

Thomas Tainter

I'm interested in what they said at the end about the different rates for skill training Off the top of my head two things make the most sense 1: The rates are based on affinity and it's a simple or complicated equation involving it 2: There is some sort of bartering system the GODS do that affects training rates I'm not the greatest isekai fan, but in this case I really hope that Tom comes out on the OP training time end of the spectrum


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