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A few questions.
🕑 Added 2024-10-26 15:33:40 +0000 UTCHello, everyone.
About a month ago we published the first announcement of a new project. And this news was generally received positively. Yes, there were those who said that we are going to fail, because it is a game with a female protagonist. That’s a bit of a strange statement, since I have seen how much money games with female protagonist earn, and they earn a lot. However, the fact is that we do not really understand the principles of this genre so well, and that's exactly where we need some advice. But I'll talk about that a little bit later.
For now, I'll tell you about how the development is going.
While the programmer was writing the main part of the game engine, I was working on the interface. Now we are creating buttons, icons, menus, etc. All this is necessary for the realization of various side activities in the game. Also, a lot of time this month was devoted to the story part. The first released version will contain three large story days and part of the city, with additional activities and mini events. There will be a lot of content for a first version, in size it will probably be like DLC. As for the release on Steam, that will happen after 1-2 updates. I would like for Steam version to have more content than just a couple of hours, more like 4-5 hours at least. In any case, we will no longer work with episodes, but early access is inevitable.
And now for the questions about the game.
When I decided that the new game would be about a woman, I decided to play projects with a similar setting.
Question 1:
It's very common that alternative romantic relationship options, in the form of men, are so... well, how shall I put it…. unpleasant. I'm not even talking about appearance, I myself do not understand nearly anything about male beauty, but these alternative romantic options are in character and behavior, extremely repulsive people. Is this necessary for a game of this kind?
Question 2:
Content with people who are older. So far, we haven't added anything like that and if we do, it will be only if we are directly interested in them. There is one model, a large man... is it mandatory to use it? I do not wish to offend anyone if anything, all people are worthy of love, it's just that the genre of games and the genre of cinema always embellishes everything a little. If it hadn’t, Fiona's girls would look different too (and not just them).
Why I’m asking, 99% of the projects I've seen are really made like a copycat. And is there any point in trying to do something your own way... it's a rhetorical question. Developers are not fools. They do what makes money. Well, of course, within the limits of their own morality, which is different for everyone.
At the moment, the heroine's husband is quite a handsome man, he has a normal penis, and he generally satisfies the heroine. They have a normal relationship, though not without friction. The other men are also not without their charm. So far, we're going down this path, but maybe that's a mistake and it won’t resonate with the target audience. I'm not sure I want to do what I've seen in other projects, but I really want the money. I guess we're getting old. Once upon a time it wasn't so important.
Overall, I’m looking forward to the comments, especially from fans of this genre. What is important to you in games of this kind and whether you really need to have the things described in question 1-2.
That's all for now. Thanks for your interest in the project.
Здравствуйте, всем.
Примерно месяц назад мы опубликовали первый анонс нового проекта. И эта новость принята в целом положительно. Да, были и те, кто говорили, что нас ждет крах, ведь это игра с женским главным героем. Странное заявление, я видел сколько зарабатывают игры с женским главным героем, и они зарабатывают хорошо, вопрос в том, что мы не очень понимаем законы этого жанра, и вот как раз в этом нам нужна некоторая консультация. Но об этом чуть позже.
Пока расскажу о том, как продвигается разработка.
Пока программист писал основную часть движка игры я занимался интерфейсом. Сейчас прорисовываются кнопочки, иконочки, менюшки. Все это нужно для реализации различных побочных активностей в игре. Так же немало времени из этого месяца было посвящено сюжетной части. На релизе первой демо версии будет выпущено три больших сюжетных дня и часть города, с дополнительными активностями и миниэвентами. Контента будет много, для демо версии, по размеру она будет наверно, как DLC. Что касается релиза в Стим, то его сделаем через 1-2 обновления. Хочется для Стим версии все же побольше контента, чем на пару часов. Часов на 4-5 хотя бы игры. В любом случае, эпизодами мы больше работать не будем, но ранний доступ неизбежен.
И вот теперь вопросы по игре.
Я когда решил, что новой игрой будет женщина, решил поиграть в проекты с аналогичным сеттингом.
Вопрос 1:
Очень часто, что альтернативные варианты романтических отношений, в виде мужчин, такие… ну как бы это сказать. Неприятные. Я не говорю даже про внешность, я сам в мужской красоте не понимаю ничего, но они и по-характеру, и по поведению, крайне отталкивающие люди. Это обязательно для игры такого рода?
Вопрос 2:
Контент с людьми в возрасте. Пока мы не добавляли ничего такого и если и будем добавлять, то если нас прямо заинтересуют. Моделька есть одна, крупного мужчины… её прямо обязательно использовать? Я никого если что не желаю обидеть, все люди достойны любви, просто жанр игр и жанр кинематографа, он всегда все немного приукрашивает. Если бы этого не делать, то девочки Фионы, тоже выглядели бы иначе. (да и не только они)
Я почему спрашиваю, 99% проектов, которые я посмотрел, реально сделаны как под копирку. И есть ли смысл пытаться делать что-то по-своему… это вопрос риторический. Разработчики не дураки, они делают то, что приносит деньги. Ну конечно находясь в рамках собственной морали, у всех она разная.
Пока на текущий момент, муж героини, вполне симпатичный, человек, у него нормальный член, и он в целом удовлетворяют героиню. У них нормальные отношения, хоть и не без трений. Остальные мужчины, так же не лишены своего шарма. Пока мы идем по этому пути, но возможно в этом и кроется ошибка, что мы не попадем в целевую аудиторию. Не уверен, что прямо хочется делать то, что я видел в других проектах, ну уж больно хочется денег. Видимо мы стареем. Когда-то это было не так важно.
В целом жду комментариев, особенно от поклонников жанра. Что для вас важно, в играх такого рода и реально ли нужно делать то, что описано в вопросе 1-2.
На этом все. Спасибо за интерес к проекту, и пока.
Comments
Novel
??????
Ananias
I'm perhaps oldfashioned (or call me even a redneck, if you want to) but men-with-men relationship,,, well, are not my cup of tea, at least not to play in a game
Novel
It's hard to say what new things there are to offer the gaming market. Everyone wants to look at art and that's it. As sad as that is.
Novel
Thanks for the detailed response and opinion.
AEarthbound
#1 I don't feel it's necessary. I would find a female protagonist with a normal partner enjoyable to play if it had a good story and dialog. For the male NPCs, if not appearance are you talking mainly about non-con? I agree there definitely seems to be a market for that. Peruse through the Skyrim mods in LoversLab and you'll find a vast array of mods designed for female players who wish to be abused in more ways that I can imagine by both male and female NPCs. That's not something I'm into, so I've been somewhat shocked at the amount of time and effort that authors have put into creating those. But it's clear that the fetish is something that a sizeable chunk of the player community is into. #2 Appearance/age outside the normal range might work, but to be honest sticking to reasonably young, fit, and attractive is the best bet. I think people play these types of games to escape reality. The models don't have to look like Lara Croft or Clark Kent, but it's like with novels where success depends on the main character being likeable. For a VN requiring many hours of attention, the characters need to be both likeable and visually appealing. Realism is important to a degree but there's a reason movies and TV are filled with mostly good looking people. Everything you've posted about this new project has me very intrigued and I like the direction you are taking.
Sombrero
It is common in visual media to stereotype appearance. Truck drivers should look like truck drivers, doctors should look like doctors. And everybody should be good looking except for bad guys. I suspect that helps viewers quickly make sense of the story. Novelists often don't need to mention whether a character is beautiful or ugly. 99% of projects are copycat. It might be that they are following what works, and it might be that something that sorta works but can be delivered quickly is the priority. And that could work with a lot of players who simply want to see nakedness. I do think though, that the best strategy, especially after a certain type of project has dominated for a while, is to try to invent a new something that works. If you do that, your market share will bloom for a while until 99% of everybody else is doing the same. Then time for a new idea again.
