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B3 Chapter 402: Destiny Redux, pt. 3

🕑 Added 2025-09-12 21:30:01 +0000 UTC

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M van Dongen

Hellion...if its fixed.

Dustin Moore

My money is on wayfarer. Controlling the battle field and movement helps his team, but doesn't give up his emphasis on individual pursuit like he would with vizier. It's the most versatile option to me.

Lampent

To be fair we'll probably only get like 5 more class changes

Jon Simpson

Hellion, no questions!

Tyler Engelke

Gonna be honest, it would probably make it a lot easier on you to just cut like 90% of the requirements out and just specify a few really critical choices he's made that led to each option. Having a wall of text paragraph that is mostly copy pasted (it seems) is just extra work for us to read and for you to edit, imo.

Alex Ledger

I think if he wants to plan long term and be a powerhouse he'll want the Vizier and that's what I'd want. I do think all three of these are archtypes Kaius would strongly consider though which is good writing.

DarkLite

If vizier is about leading and empowering allies, it should have a lot of relevant feats similar to the despot class (but with a more positive spin)

Szarekh Östwind

maybe there is a higher rarity but the system said that Kaius had to undergo some modifications for his mind,body and soul to handle it

Robert Gardner

TFTC. Three excellent classes, Vizier is the weakest evolation as it only resonates we 5 skills compared to the other two 8. I think he will go with Wayfarer as it includes his bond which Hellion does not and he is very attached to Porkchop

BelligerentGnu

Kaius' team is too strong for Vizier to be a good choice. It's Hellion, and I'll tell you why: "Where they walk, VOS roars like thunder".

Magnus Benzein

Tyftc! Waiting for the curveball that there is a option of a higher rarity available, as the explorer with no cycling feels a bit light on requirements.

BuhDussy

Longest skill selection chapters in history.

Ihsan Gunay

Because blade form is already nearly perfect for the class. He had a similar experience last time.

Felipe da Silva Oliveira

CFuck" indeed... all 3 options are great in their own right, I've read the comments but I don't think he'll go for Hellion or Vizier, Kaiser don't seems to... have the desire to reconstruct his dynasty, just look at his aspects, he won't be sitting in a throne and growing/ruling his family/dynasty i believe he'll chose wayfarer

gray matter

Meh, I’m sticking with clearminded blade ascetic if it were me. Maybe hellion, but these just don’t seem as impressive. Keep my current glyphs make sure I continue to use and max them and become a conceptual blade master during this tier. Check out glyph binding things next tier. Honestly I hope the author set us up for this, I’m just not as excited for any of these three as I am/was for the other.

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Ali

I think hellion helps the most in both of those goals tho? E.g. He already has all the tools to create a dynasty w/ knowledge of honours and glyph binding, all he needs is the singular power to gain repute for followers and to destroy those who continue to hunt down Unterstern. For the 2nd point I think he’s already made up his mind that how he’ll help is complete focus on progressing the integration. So being a survivalist or being better at leading swathes of weak people are comparatively not very useful.

Robin Richards

Which if the three classes is most likely this - I think a spellblade class that focuses on my fighting style, but also on explosive magical strength backed by martial staying power might push it in a more focused direction.”

Anime Problem

Hellion is singularly powerful while Vizier could alter entire battles with how effective it could be i know it mentions those that didn't make runeblade that doesn't mean it is any less powerful in some significant ways it's more powerful than hellion in pure direct single combat its less effective in a team fight hellion is just more power that he already has in spades. I do feel like his brotherhood skill needs to advance at least by his tier 3 class upgrade.

Walt Grata

I wonder if his bond with father's gift counts as an armament technique. If so that could heavily sway his choice

Nim

Hellion is the "make big numbers" class, but what does he want to accomplish? If he wants to rebuild a dynasty or help the friendly settlements survive and thrive through the recent changes, either of the others would do that better. What's his ultimate goal? And is "kill stuff fastest" the best path to it?

Josh williams

Hellion for sure. Wayfarer sounds cool but doesn’t fit the story as well. Vizier is clearly the worst choice, seems focused on making many weaker soldiers stronger rather than what Kaius would want (making a few elites better)

Ark

Hellion seems like the most reasonable as well Kaius wants to synergize he wouldn’t forgo personal power entirely to synergize with his team especially since he doesn’t really lose anything the only thing that sticks out to me is the skill resonance. Why does explorers toolkit resonate especially more so than liturgical blade form when one of the class requirements was three separate blade forms? And also cause the class doesn’t really have much to do with exploring

Orthes

Vizier slam dunk. They just had a talk about party synergies. Hellion overlaps with ianmus where vizier adds something to the team. Also no resonance with bond is a red flag imo.

Nicholas F

I can see Hellion or Vizier easy. Hellion is more focused on Kaius's individual strength but with a team determined to go the distance and Ascend Vizier has some real force multiplier benefits. Besides not like Vizier isn't still a heavy combat class, has the same or greater skill improvements save for swapping armament techniques for leadership.

DarkLite

It's great but too much overlap with Kenva

Tim Judge

oh yeah sweet breads and bacon for breakfast.

Ali

He went into the depths around lvl 120 and killed those scorpions that were ~lvl250

M van Dongen

the skill empowerement for the Hellion seems low with the dip to 80% for primary skills....

sarvashaktimaan

I really don't think Kaius needs a leadership focused class. Any combat benefit that might bring would be far outweighed by the power of Hellion in a group of four. I don't see him leading small armies anytime soon either.

Regios

Please remind me again what opponents were 125 or more levels higher than him?

Ali

Although that might just be to balance it, meaning the skills it offers are OP

Ali

Interesting choices, Hellion is fire but considering it’s for the “elite of the elite” its % improvements of the affinities and skills are low compared to the other 2. It’s also a bit weird to me that its resonance with liturgical blade form is weak.

Fuyge

Agreed. Ianmus is the support. Kaius should focus on damage and frontline capabilities.

James Faulkner

I’m voting hellion for sure, the team isn’t a group of individually weak fighters who need a central command structure to succeed. Taking anything other than Hellion feels like pure loss to offensive capability. Tftc!

Robin Richards

It's probably running into the same issue that Brotherhood had in Tier 1. The underlying skill is already Heroic so there is not much room for improvement during Evolution.

SodaBoBomb

Wayfarer is cool and would be amazing if he was more focused on Delves/just him and Porkchop. Hellion, is, imo the best choice by far but in any other book he would clearly pick Vizier. Which I really hope he doesn't, he's not a support class, he's their DPS and off tank.

Quentin Cozzi

Thanks for the chapter!

retrorocket0

I kind of do as well but if you look at the resonance it has highest resonance with the skills he was leaning away from. Based on the resonances Helion makes more sense, especially considering it is the only one that resonates with his sword skill.

jack

I actually like Wayferer and its going to be the least popular one.

Sam

Rapid Adaptation having weak Resonance with the Explorer feels really out of place, especially as it mentions surviving multiple times.

Boss Man

I love all three options, but for guessing at what he picks the 2nd and 3rd seem like the best bet. Which one exactly depends on what exactly he wants to do in the future. Through the Crucible, we know just how much he loves throwing himself into a challenge. Hellion would fit well with this, but if he wants to rebuild his dynasty, vizier would be the best choice. Not to mention it would allow him to make the rest of his team even more powerful. I think that because of his bond with Porkchop and the potential of the strength sharing glyph once it’s combined with the empowerment of the vizier class he will Choose the third option.

Doubledoor

" ...more than any other they rely on their blades and their companions to support them through extended engagements." With this line in the description I'm suprised helion doesn't at least have a weak resonance with brotherhood. I suppose companions in this case doesn't mean bonded companions like Porkchop then. I like vizier though, it has a bit of focus on leadership and considering how the team seems to slowly grow, that could come in handy. Then again, it doesn't really seem consistent with Kaius' pillars... Cool choices, its rare to feel stumped in terms of what I prefer in class choices.

Aloofscarab

Hellion is definitely the most aligned with what I expect. But I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't go Vizier.

Vassil Marinov

I like the sound of the wayfarer, not so certain about the others... I wonder what others think?

Jordan King

What the Hellion….

D N

The Hellion sounds like the best choice tbh

Salientmind

For the Vizer Feats, you could include something about suffering/taking damage for the sake of protecting his team. Sort of the reverse of the selfish feats from the Tyrant.

M van Dongen

odd options.

Rhys Rathbun

So hellion then. I like it

Gavin

Oh man the hellblade is it!

Ekko

Yeah, Hellion feels the best of them all and fits his fighting style to a tee. Sounds the most badass of the three too, imho

lamp

Thanks for the chapter. Really digging the Hellion, although the wayfarer sounds cool too, just doesn’t seem right for Kaius in my opinion


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