Important Update on Public Episodes - please read
🕑 Added 2021-04-29 19:00:04 +0000 UTCStarting on May 3rd, we will be introducing some changes to our public episodes. Instead of one public episode of DFF on Monday that is 1+ hours long, we will be doing three public episodes that are 25-35 minutes long each. These three public episodes will be released on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays. You will still get an exclusive episode every Friday that is 1+ hours long. Our goals with this change are to broaden our reach and to add more diversity to our content. This new format will make it easier for us to draw new viewers with shorter videos. It will also allow us to cover more topics that are interesting, but don't have enough depth to be typical episode length.
Broadening the reach of our public channel will help all of our viewers. More eyeballs means more potential patrons, and more patrons means we can invest more into our channel and Patreon. These investments include hiring more video editors and introducing new Pessimist Productions properties (as well as bringing back old ones). We know that our patrons are the ones that make this podcast possible with their financial contribution. Our goal is ultimately to increase the amount of exclusive content for you to enjoy. In order to do that we need growth, and growth requires change.
Here’s early access to the first of these new kinds of episodes on Johnny Depp, which will be released publicly on Monday, May 3rd: https://youtu.be/IssNTwEr6UQ
Edit: Thank you for all the positive feedback! That means a lot from our patrons. We couldn't do the show without you.
Comments
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You do a shit ton so i cant complain
Kyle Sager
Personally I prefer longer stuff so I’ll have to see how I like it. I would really like to see Friday shows be longer please
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
We will still be doing the monthly roundup posts, which should help make searching easier on Patreon. We currently have December - April covered.
dethkyle
I hope the website is finished soon because this is only going to compound the hassle of searching though the content. Plus I figure they get a bigger cut of the subscription money without patreon.
Gage Lamb
Yeah, no, as much as shorter episodes might not be in my favor as someone who listens to these at work and needs longer-form content, I can't deny the marketing genius of this idea. I hope this will allow you guys to explore cooler ideas and grow this amazing but kinda dead, growth-wise, channel.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Premieres as usual for public episodes
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
No
Josh Jerome
Are these going to drop as premieres or regular non-interactive uploads?
OldCrow
Will this cause any changes to Flash Fried?
Metapaws
Thanks for keeping it fresh guys, hope you guys see good from it.
Christian McDougall
That's a cool idea! Gives me more to listen to on your off days when I'm at work all night!
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
It will still be the same length on Mondays and Fridays
Could this change of schedule open the possibility of gaming with Stevie hot content?
The Taint Tickler
But what of the Grease Trap?
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Our channel is still demonetized, Patreon and merch sales remain our only sources of revenue.
Yehaen
Sounds good
Liam Borns
Fuck yeah spread them views out bro’s, get that ad revenue any way you can.
Hulgafus
I feel like most of his performances since pirates of caribbean have been dreck. In retrospective, I feel like his decline already started with Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas(which is a great movie). I couldn't buy him has John Dillinger, he was a horrible Tonto and don't get me started on the later Tim Burton stuff. On a positive note, I enjoy the editing that goes into your Videos lately. Really ads some flavour.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
The audio will be posted for each public episode where you currently find it now (Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, etc)
David Paturel
its the same amount of content
Evan Hinkelman
this sounds like a good idea and i hope it helps, but I'm honestly not too optimistic it will seeing as how youtube will do just about anything to prevent channels like yalls to grow and reach new audiences.
Goat da Stoner
What about audio? Is it all going to be released here?
Danzo Shimura
It aint a bad thing we pretty much getting the same run time problem is now topics are shorter, episodes are shorter and will have to search for them more if you want to watch multiple, like someone said this is just gonna mean less DFFs more movie commentaries (not a lot of them) at least for me just to not be seen fumbling with my phone all day at work, its already a hassle as is
Zachary Recer
I didn’t read this but I’m going to go ahead and say it. Scam, rv trip, banana, etc.
Danzo Shimura
Not gonna lie its already a hassle finding episodes and changing through them while working, 30 minutes a pop would mean i would have to change episode every 30 minutes or download them before hand which is what ive been doing to avoid having 10 episodes links a day. I Already go through 3-4 episodes a day this would just make it more of a hassle for example: I watch an episode 1hour and 30 minutes Long without having to change episodes, now i will have to go through 3 episodes, search them around once they reach backlog, making my episode count higher just to get the same amount of time i get out of one episode with enough meat on the topic.
Authentic Individual
Unfortunate. I enjoy longer content for its pseudo radio quality while listened to during my commute. I'll still watch the patreon episodes, but this announcement means less DFF for me.
I like this, I don’t watch much else and waiting a week can get boring.
PixelCrusader
Neat
Julie Ann Payne
I like that idea. I bet it'll work!
Daniel Einarsson
Cool
Scotty B
Interesting idea. 🤘🏴🤘
Literally Satan
I hope the new intro features babbles and whispers
Darth-Myself
Nice update. My $ will still flow your way.
Oof the plebs are gonna shit, piss, and cum all at once.
The Winston Double
This sounds like a nice change.
Ceph
TJ, my hope levels have been gradually rising to dangerous levels. You know what must be done.
Ceph
An interesting new take on the format, but thanks for keeping the extended patron shows!
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
We are working on a shorter intro, but for the time being it will be the longer one
Edvard Lundgren
One thing though: maybe the intro is a bit long for a 30 min episode. Just personal taste.
Edvard Lundgren
Sounds good, probably. I prefer the long format, but I can just save up the public stuff and watch every friday to get several hours of DFF. If this gets more viewers, I'm all for it. Hope the algorithm doesnt fuck you guys up.
YellowEmber
I think 25-30 ish mins is a good size for things. I really prefer the long content, but I can just batch a gang of topics instead and more plebs = healthier channel.
sbcistheboss .
Make Flash Fried the new CNN and just cover the news for the entirety of Wednesday
Bubblerider
HUZZAH
Sev Obzen
I think this will be a good change broadly. I feel like the trivia contests like the recent North Korea one should be relegated to the shorter format unless you guys are down to shake them up in some way and make them a little more interesting. Obviously the simple trivia shows aren't meant to compete with the drinking game or The Wheel Of Misfortune but I'd really like to see more stuff like that. I understand that those require a more substantive investment. Hopefully growth will get us more stuff like that.
Hercules
We eating
zach prosser
This sounds promising
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
The plan right now is to have them all be separate videos, and released to the patrons as they come out publicly.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
For now we'll be releasing them to the patrons as they come out publicly. Like how the Monday episode have been.
Tj Cole
In the beginning, it was just a patreon with promises of content coming soon. At that time there was just a few of us, Giving our meager $5 hoping for the best when the exclusive content rolled out. The Empty table then, has now become a cornucopia of content. Good, hearty Content. A Catalog of episodes. From humble beginnings of Scotty being either too loud, or too quiet, Sharing an old couch with Paul in what had to have been a Hot tight recording area setting has over the years become the best thing on Youtube. You can tell they give it 110%, and have since Tim Allen Vol 1. So anything and everything that is to bring more to the feast, and more at the Table itself, let it Commence! And may it be Tasty for every hungry patron before, now, and here after!
Jansen
Not a bad idea
Ty McCracken
This sounds interesting! Hope it works out!
Hyperblob
This is probably for the best. You guys have a tendency to drone on and blabber pointlessly in some episodes. Hopefully this keeps things short sweet and funny
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Yes
██████
Will Grease Traps Still be Monday & Friday?
SimpleSlides
Change scares me, but DFF reassures me
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Each smaller episode will be independent and a different topic, not segments from one long episode.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Thank you for your long term patronage and faith in us!
SwearWorks
Sounds great guys. Appreciate you continuing to try new things, evolve and grow the channel. Cheers!
Al Ex
I am a fan of the change. With the great editing on videos now, tighter episodes would lead to better content. I only finish like 50% of current DFF videos because it gets recursive. 30 minutes will make your writing shine and (maybe?) save the longer tirades and tangents for patreon content. Been a patron since the first episode <3 thank you guys
Ryan J
I will be honest and say that I am not a huge fan of this idea. This reminds me of when Flash Fried went exclusive for Patrons and the public only got small clips from different segments. Also, RIP longer episodes for plebs and patrons alike. Now we get three little appetizers and only one big course meal at the end of the week. Which is kinda lame. I understand its still approximately the same length but no one likes piecemeal content
PaLeBlUeDoT
Sounds good to me.
Bryan Turner
I like this. 30 minutes of more content with likely tighter episodes all while not losing what we paid for.
Landon Taylor
I'm gonna miss those long episodes, but I am also happy I hope this grows your viewership on the douche tube
Malick Alnakallah
I think this is a good change. Thanks y’all.
Kyle Funke
I like it. Thanks for the content.
Mrbg12
Sounds like a good idea guys! Is there any way for patrons to get a compilation of all 3 in one video?
Restitutor Orbis
Thats cool guys I like the idea. Idk if its been asked but will we get a dump on monday of all 3 of the weeks 30ish min videos? Or maybe for the chefs table?
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
The grease traps will not be shorter
Heather Squidz
I like it
Uncle Beaker
OK fat.
Sam Rees
Sounds good to me, Jack
Kanye West
Well it'll be easier for the people who don't have as much time to watch
Seth Carey
I like this idea! Yall should try peppering in some behind the scenes and clips as Shorts as well. I've been getting my best traffic from Shorts
Dragoon
Hey if you guys wanna try some new things, I'm all for it. Even if I like the long form content. At least we still get Friday episodes and Grease Traps :)
Notjustklownin
Sounds good to me, love the content and feel like this will actually give us more content(as in video length)
Bård Lilleøien
More spread out throughout the week. Sounds cool to me.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Yes, on Fridays as usual.
My Dear Malice
do we still get long patron only episodes though?
Ultra_Jerky
Sounds cute to me.
Mel Blanc
Sounds like a plan to me
Clayton Dunlop
Sounds good to me! I’ll still toss you my five dollars a month for the delectable spread.
Stevie-O98
It’s a fucking scam situatiorn
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Yes
will the Friday show and the patron section of flash fried stay the same?
Toni Tafra
Great idea and a welcome change. Hope it pays off :D
Sierra Reppert
I love it!!! =D
Elliot Salas
Sounds like another scam
Brando Huey
Post more polls too, apparently those are like algorithm boosters. Maybe get an editor to cut small funny moments into YouTube Shorts. They're boosting the fuck out of those too.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
MP3s will be posted as normal for the public episodes on other platforms
NobodyNoel
As long as i can get an MP3 version as soon as possible make whatever changes you guys think are best thats why im paying you 3
Bulk Bogan
I knew they loved capitalism!
Kristofer Foster
Scam situation ! But seriously, that’s fine, as long as you can keep the shorter vids interesting enough. Excited to see where things go from here!
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Yes, on Mondays and Fridays
Nick Piazza
That’s an interesting idea.
Jeffrey Searcy
I hope this idea is successful but honestly I'm skeptical. Youtube doesn't really reward spamming content over 10 min in length. If you really want the growth you are talking about you either need to do daily uploads around 10 min in length or three 1 hour episodes on Monday Wednesday and Friday as an example. The algorithm will be less likely to push your content if it varies in length so having two 25-35 min episodes (which the algorithm already considers "too long" for general recommendation and then an hour show on Wednesday will likely drive your recommendations down even further. At least now you have two pieces of content around an hour on the public channel per week which is not ideal but still ticks one of the boxes. I did some contract work for Alphabet so I can't be specific with what you need to do due to an nda but I will give you a couple of tips that might help. First keep your content around the same length if it is being pushed to the YT channel. Second make sure to tag all of your patrons only content *Patreon Exclusive* exactly like that after the title of the clips/previews that you upload. I hope this helps you guys out and I wish you good luck.
Thomas Washington
Figured something like this would have to happen, with the way YouTube prioritizes channels with a steady flow of videos. I say you all cancel the Plebian Hour of Flash Fried and start cutting up segments like back in 2018, instead of giving them 3 public shows lol.
Master Horny
Will there still be two hour long Grease Traps a week?
Master Horny
Paul really wanted to go back to 30 minute Grease Traps I guess.
Nicholas (Azazel Qayin)
Come on baby, don’t fear the Amber
Ian Salyers
Running a business sure is exciting. I just do what the boss tells me to do.
Khitaka
Hey dude, more content is more content.
Lloyd Llewellyn
I think it’s a good idea as 35 min long videos are easier to digest. I wonder how the plebs will react
Dallas
johnny depp deserved a full episode
Dr_Binkyboy
WOAH
The Corpse God
How much more money would be required for a Cinema for Cynics episode on the Jeb Bush movie? I want to watch them smother the baby they create.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
We will, we just wanted the patrons to know first
great idea
Pixiekittie
Sweet
iamaphoney
1-hour episodes aren't superficial enough?
Leif Hatlestad
I like this idea
Atticus Omundson
So long as the Grease Traps are now two hours long each
David
You guys should really make this announcement on the main YT channel too. Some people might not see it here.
Steven Bentley
I personally love this change.
Ryan Smith
Nice. Pad out the week a bit more!
Eric BiggZ
DFF needs to take over the world! Do your thing !
Chris
Sounds good. Now tell us where we need to throw money to get that Jeb Bush movie made
John Duff
Sounds good.
DB
Whatever produces more fucking fantastic content and helps the channel grow I'm all for it 🤙.
And Harry
If you’re complaining about this, you’re a fucking moron who doesn’t have enough adversity in their life.
Venny
Hm. Interesting and cool -although unexpected- decision.
David
I think that's essentially what they are doing.
David
Long needed change really. Especially for the YT algorithm. Glad to see it finally happen.
MacabreMole
I've been here for more than a decade at this point. Pretty sure I'll just keep sticking around. But I will say I feel the best version y'all have done so far is to have shows that are cut up into segments and added to the channel that way as well. Suck them in with a short ~10m or two before they find one of the ~20m. The more short videos they find they like the more they will be likely to watch longer videos due to loyalty forming. But I'll slurp up whatever you set in front of me on the chef's table or elsewhere
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
The three shorter public episodes together will be the equivalent length or more as a full public episode.
Horror Muppet
So what does this mean for patrons? Do we still get the full Monday episode since we're paying supporters? I didn't join the Chef's Table for an appetizer.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
We are working on a shorter intro, but for the time being it will be the full song.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Yes, you got it
noah wolff
So the plebs(and all of us by proxy) technically get an extra half hour each week. Hard to argue with extra content.
PESSIMIST PRODUCTIONS
Yes
Devin Tucker
Good idea
Adolf of Londor
Intro is too long for episodes this length - bring back the original short sting for these episodes please ❤️❤️❤️
Abby Danger
My question is about the grease trap. Will there still be two episodes a week?
Andres Rodriguez
Fuck the poor
PastaAlfredo
Sounds like a good idea so far. Although, if one of those remaining hour episodes slots doesn't get given to Paul's Rudy Guliani episode, I'm suing.
stuart pullinger
The same old same old stays the same until it's old. Do what ya gotta do. I'll form an opinion after some time, I'm sure. ;)
Robert Dawson
Please clap.
AARON
Scam
Akephalos
One of the reasons I signed up for the patreon is not only the kind of content and the personalities but the length of the content as well. Hope it helps to bring more people in! ❤️
jamie smith
This sounds like a great idea cant wait to see it
Boffjamin
Awesome, I think ultimately the plebs will appreciate the variation! Looking forward to what else you're working on
Akephalos
I think if you're going to do this, you should do the hour episode and then split it into chunks to put on YouTube for the plebs, with the added benefit of getting the full length episode if you become a patron.
Gigantopithecus
Brace for the hate wave lol. I dont care how you cut it, i see the reasoning behind the move. Hopefully it brings in more people. More people means more money which means hopefully more deeelicious Pessimist Productions contento.
Ethan T
Looking forward to seeing how this new style of content goes, guys! Good on you for not shying away from evolution and adaptation as the show grows. Keep on keepin’ on, fellas.
El Barto
Just so I understand cause I’m stupid, three short eps on mon, tues, and thurs, and an patreon exclusive thats long on friday? Flash friend still on weds?
ahhh delicioussss contento 😩
Seth
I’m down. this format feels like it’ll work with the YT algorithm better, so good luck!
southside99999
Sounds good to me seems like a win all around
koolmin23
Sounds like a plan, really excited!
This actually seems like a good idea. I’m looking forward to an episode everyday.
Nice
Brandon Marthers
Unfortunate, but understandable, thank you for the continued content
Gigantopithecus
I love you poop.
Blaine Hoover
This sounds pretty cool! Can’t wait to experience the new format.
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CoolEveryDay
Cool
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